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i love skyrim/skyrim se i love all the fallouts but i've never played morrow wind or oblivion what what is the bette of the two or should i get both while they are on sale 



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from what I've heard (as I've never personally played Morrowind) , it has the best story of all Elder Scrolls games , and some of the best quests

unfortunately , it has some of the worst mechanics (combat is really random and such , as far as I know)

I have played Oblivion extensively , and I absolutely adore that game . the combat is quite like Skyrim (except for magic which is somewhat different) , the quests are (in my opinion) far better , the guilds are miles ahead of the ones in Skyrim (especially the Dark Brotherhood and the Thieves Guild , these quest lines are incredible)

so at the very least I suggest you get Oblivion and play that

there is also Morroblivion , which allows you to play the amazing quests from Morrowind with the mechanically better engine of Oblivion . you are missing some of the crazy broken options of Morrowind , but I think it's a great option (I'm currently following a modding guide for Morroblivion , with the hope of playing it in the near future) . this does require both games , but I'm sure they're so cheap now it's a shame no to get both of them if you can



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from what I've heard (as I've never personally played Morrowind) , it has the best story of all Elder Scrolls games , and some of the best quests

unfortunately , it has some of the worst mechanics (combat is really random and such , as far as I know)

I have played Oblivion extensively , and I absolutely adore that game . the combat is quite like Skyrim (except for magic which is somewhat different) , the quests are (in my opinion) far better , the guilds are miles ahead of the ones in Skyrim (especially the Dark Brotherhood and the Thieves Guild , these quest lines are incredible)

so at the very least I suggest you get Oblivion and play that

there is also Morroblivion , which allows you to play the amazing quests from Morrowind with the mechanically better engine of Oblivion . you are missing some of the crazy broken options of Morrowind , but I think it's a great option (I'm currently following a modding guide for Morroblivion , with the hope of playing it in the near future) . this does require both games , but I'm sure they're so cheap now it's a shame no to get both of them if you can

 

 

sounds like a plan  :smile: thank you


Edited by rawrturkey, 13 June 2018 - 02:35 PM.


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no problem

if you do play Morrowind , please let me know how great it is (and Oblivion , for that matter . always nice to hear opinions on these games)

 

do note that Oblivion doesn't run quite so well , so I would recommend modding it with caution (I found it more demanding than Skyrim LE)



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I've heard from many that Morrowind is the superior choice. I've had it since it's initial release and have tried playing it several times and gave up. But I've spent many long years playing Oblivion and have many fond memories of it. If I had to make a choice today which one to play I would pick up Oblivion again without a second thought. Of course I played the modded game and if Mr. Assassin is correct there may be some issues with that now. They are cheap though. Go to GOG where you'll find them with all their bells and whistles included on sale.

 

Morrowind: https://www.gog.com/...nd_goty_edition

Oblivion: https://www.gog.com/...tion_deluxe_the

 

Best of luck,

 

 

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One thing about Morrowind is that there are no quest markers

leading you directly to your objective.  You will be told where to

go, but you may have to look around.  Want to find a certain cave ?

Well, it's northwest of here....



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Having played them both(Oblivion much more though)...

 

Best experience of exploration: Morrowind

Magic combat: Morrowind and Oblivion allow for a lot of magic styled builds.

Leveling: Both games are terrible with the handling of this. Lots of tedious planning.

Combat: Both are on equal footing in my opinion.

Quests: Morrowind - forces you to explore(no quest markers)

Amount of Mods: Both games have a huge library of mods, some very innovating and opened the doors to a lot of Skyrim's mods.

 

Verdict: Get both.


Edited by Rasikko, 14 June 2018 - 01:49 PM.


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from what I've heard (as I've never personally played Morrowind) , it has the best story of all Elder Scrolls games , and some of the best quests

unfortunately , it has some of the worst mechanics (combat is really random and such , as far as I know)

I have played Oblivion extensively , and I absolutely adore that game . the combat is quite like Skyrim (except for magic which is somewhat different)

That's true about the flaws in Morrowind, but on the other hand those flaws is what makes Morrowind the best moddable TES game ever.  And Morrowind has depth in-game and the best MQ, but the MQ in Skyrim isn't bad either.

 

The only thing that's random is blocking with the shield, other than that it is pretty much the same as it is in Morrowind except for casting spells.  In Morrowind one need to use both hands to cast a spell in vanilla, but with mods the player can cast spells like you do in Oblivion.

 

No, the combat in Oblivion are not the same as it is in Skyrim in fact the combat in Oblivion and Morrowind are basically the same aside for the shield blocking and of course spellcasting, because one cannot use dual weapons in Oblivion and every time one wants to heal in a fight in Skyrim the player first need to either unequip the right hand or the left hand to cast a healing spell or use a healing potion.  But there are mods that makes fighting in Skyrim similar to what combat is in Oblivion.



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from what I've heard (as I've never personally played Morrowind) , it has the best story of all Elder Scrolls games , and some of the best quests

unfortunately , it has some of the worst mechanics (combat is really random and such , as far as I know)

I have played Oblivion extensively , and I absolutely adore that game . the combat is quite like Skyrim (except for magic which is somewhat different)

That's true about the flaws in Morrowind, but on the other hand those flaws is what makes Morrowind the best moddable TES game ever.  And Morrowind has depth in-game and the best MQ, but the MQ in Skyrim isn't bad either.

 

The only thing that's random is blocking with the shield, other than that it is pretty much the same as it is in Morrowind except for casting spells.  In Morrowind one need to use both hands to cast a spell in vanilla, but with mods the player can cast spells like you do in Oblivion.

 

No, the combat in Oblivion are not the same as it is in Skyrim in fact the combat in Oblivion and Morrowind are basically the same aside for the shield blocking and of course spellcasting, because one cannot use dual weapons in Oblivion and every time one wants to heal in a fight in Skyrim the player first need to either unequip the right hand or the left hand to cast a healing spell or use a healing potion.  But there are mods that makes fighting in Skyrim similar to what combat is in Oblivion.

 

 

correct me if I'm wrong (as I said , I haven't actually played Morrowind , so this is based on videos I've seen of it) , but in Morrowind aren't the combat mechanics random , in the fact that you can spam the attack button on an enemy and it will determine whether or not you hit based on your skill , as opposed to your spacing?

in Oblivion and Skyrim , when you swing your weapon at a target , if they are in range you will always hit them . I've heard that it's not the case in Morrowind (and the videos I've seen also show this)

 

now I know that Skyrim and Oblivion have different combat in that each games gives different options (in how perks work , dual wielding , the different magic systems etc)

but what I meant is that in my experience , combat in these games doesn't have a different depth . you still only have two button , LMB attacks (and a long press is a power attack) , RMB is a block (or using the left hand in the case of Skyrim , where you can wield anything in your hand) , and it's all about trying to stagger or out maneuver your opponent . this doesn't make them identical , but I think combat in these games hasn't really evolved all too well (just compare footage of Vanilla Skyrim , Skyrim VR and the footage of TES Blades from E3 , they all seem to have a very similar melee combat system , and the last of these is also a mobile game...... that doesn't say much about depth and complexity , does it?)

 

as for spell casting , while Skyrim has the best mechanics for a pure spell caster (with the ability to wield and cast two spells at the same time) , the system in Oblivion seems to consider magic as a support tool (it doesn't take a hand slot , so you might as well equip a weapon in your hands and use it) . however , it has a better spell system than Skyrim (in my opinion) due to spellmaking (which I believe Morrowind also has)

didn't know about magic in Morrowind using two hands , but I haven't seen much about magic in that game (aside from exploits using the flight scrolls and such silliness)

 

these should cover what I meant , just in much more details

but again , this is just my opinion , and I'm fully aware I'm not well informed about vanilla Morrowind at all , so I'm sorry if I spread misinformation without realizing



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GOG currently has Morrowind and Oblivion GoTY on sale for about 18 USD for both....







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