CTDs in specific locations

[Hideaways76]

Hello,

 

I decided it was time to give a shot to Skyrim SE and started modding it (a lot). The game was working fine until I started to follow the main quest.

 

I experienced CTDs between Sarethi Farm and Ivarstead on my way to High Hrothgar. By taking another road, I managed to get to Ivarstead but later in the quest line, when it was time to collect the horn of Jurgen Windcaller, I had CTDs between Eldersblood Peak and Morthal.

 

These are the two areas I know where CTDs occured so far, and I can't figure out why.

 

I disabled all my texture mods but also SFO and Verdant to see if it was just too heavy for my computer and the CTDs kept happening.

I tried starting a new game to see if the saves were corrupted, same problem.

With all the mods disabled, the game obviously works fine in these areas.

 

 

Here is my mod list :

 

 

Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Dragonborn.esm
HearthFires.esm
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
WetandCold.esp
Vivid_TS_Patch_Surreal.esp (True Storms patch for Vivid Weathers)
Vivid WeaVivid Weathers SE - SOS Patch.esp (Sounds of Skyrim patch for Vivd Weathers)
Visible Favorited Gear.esp
VioLens SE.esp
Veydosebrom - Grasses and Groundcover.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
UsefulDogs.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
Undriel_Ebongrove.esp
TrueStormsSE.esp
TrueStorms_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp
TrueAurielBow.esp
Torch Brightness Radius - ELFX.esp
TMBVanillaArmorandClothes.esp
Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
TerrainLodRedone.esp
Sun Lens Flares.esp
STAC.esp (Smoking Torches and Candles)
SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp
SoS_TrueStorms_Patch.esp (True Storms patch for Sounds of Skyrim)
SOS_RLOInteriors_Patch.esp (Realistic Lighting Overhaul patch for Sounds of Skyrim)
SneakToolsSE.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
SkyHavenTempleGarden.esp
skyBirds_SSE.esp
Simple AUA.esp (Simple Auto Unequip Ammo)
ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp
ShandarStandaloneFollower.esp
SGEyebrows.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
RLO - Interiors.esp
RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
RLO - Exteriors.esp
RLO - CRF Patch.esp
RichMerchantsSkyrim_x2.esp
RGMsAlchemistsCompendium.esp
RFCharacterOverhaul_USSEP.esp
RFCharacterOverhaul.esp
RealRainSEVivid.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo+-+Verdant+Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RaceMenu.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp
NosPiercedEarsAll.esp
NB-Scars.esp
more plants all extra.esp
MakeHelmetsOptional.esp
LinkleOutfit.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
Kyoe BanginBrows.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
JSwords_Load_Screens.esp
JSwords.esm
JS Armored Circlets SE.esp
JKs_Skyrim_No_Lights_Patch.esp
JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp
JKs Skyrim_No Snow Under the Roof_Patch.esp
JKs Skyrim.esp
Ish's Souls to Perks.esp
iNeed.esp
iNeed - Extended.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
IHSS.esp (Immersive Horse Step Sounds)
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Hedge Mage Armor - Craftable Module.esp
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp
Hearthfire Buy More From Stewards.esp
FurSetOrdinalPatch.esp
FurSet by keung.esp
FS_UltimateAssortment.esp
Frostfall.esp
Footprints.esp
Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp
Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp
FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp
ExtraHairColors.esp
ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp
EmbersHD.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
EFFCore.esm
DustEffectsSSE.esp
DragonFire.esp
DragonFire-Dragonborn.esp
DetailedMineMarkers.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
DaggerCraft.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
CrimsonQuestMarkers.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Combat Evolved.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods.esp
Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods - Winter Is Coming.esp
CinematicFireFX.esp
Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_SE_Dungeon.esp
Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_SE.esp
Celtic Music in Skyrim - Combat.esp
Campfire.esm
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
BirdsOfSkyrim_SSE.esp
BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
BHWarPaints.esp
BetterGauldurAmulet.esp
Better Harvesting.esp
Better Alchemy.esp
beltfastenedquivers.esp
Beards.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
Bandanas of Skyrim.esp
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp

 

 

I use LOOT for my load order (gives me no errors) and Wrye Bash to build the bashed patch.

 

Finally, here are my specs :

 

 

Windows 10 (x64)
Intel Core i7 2600, 3.4 GHz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4Go
RAM : 8 Go

 

 

So I'm thinking these CTDs are generated by mods (maybe something is breaking the main quest line?), but I have no idea which one. Before uninstalling them one by one, do you guys have any ideas or had this problem?

 

Thanks.

 

EDIT : So found out that SKSE was involved.

During the installation, I placed the .exe and .dll files in my Skyrim folder and made an archive for MO with the Scripts folder (what was supposed to go in the Data folder). Apparently, this is what caused the issue. I reinstalled SKSE completely manually this time and went from Ivarstead to Sarethi Farm with no CTD.

 

Thank you guys for your time.

Edited August 11, 2018 by Hideaways76

[QuagaarWarrior]

That is one crazy load order. Are you familiar with LOOT? You need to use it.

Also I would not recommend uninstalling mods mid play through as it can corrupt your saves.

[ff7legend]

Yeah. That load order is a MESS. Try this guide:

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/15984

 

Hope that helps.

[tomomi1922]

I am not feeling well right now so I did not go through your load order thoroughly. But here are a few things that stood out:

- Convenient Horse seems abandoned, with a lot of problems. Many people wrote up comments about problems and author didn't respond at all, no fix. But I do not recommend you to simply uninstall this mod. The author warned and recommended NOT to uninstall, therefore didn't even provide an instruction. So your current save is married to it (without a possible divorce). Currently, I use Immersive Horse. If you feel like adventurous, uninstall CH, load the game, make a new save without any horse mod, then install Immersive Horse. Immersive Horse seems stable and the author is around.

 

- CinematicFireFX.esp is also problematic now, expecially paired with Embers. Disable it (but keep the texture and mesh)

 

- beltfastenedquivers.esp is problematic. Consider disabling it. Does beltfastenedquivers.esp work for you at all? If you want belt fastened quivers, download XPMSSE. To be safe, use version 4.2.0. It has option for Belt fastened quiver in the iFOMOD nstallation. I don't recommend the latest version because it is still quite glitchy imo. But 4.2.0 is absolutely stable.

 

- Racemenu and ShowRacemenu Alternative??? I don't use either mod so I don't know how safe to uninstall. But uninstall ShowRacemenu alternative please.

- Veydosebrom - Grasses and Groundcover.esp and Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp

You need to uninstall one. Good thing is it is safe to install/uninstall either one mid game. And Flora Overhaul? This one provides its own grass and will not play nice with grass mod.

All of these may NOT be causing your current problem. So doing all the above I said may not save you. However, if not now, it will be later. You can't ignore problems and pray to the Skyrim god you will be spared. It's like throwing a lit match into your car's fuel tank and wish nothing will happen. Also, if you deal with CTD, STOP PLAYING. You can't fix later. I mean, feel free to play. But chances are your progress will be lost. Because if you CTD at a spot consistently, going around it will not make the problem go away. You get a bleeding at the back of your butt, ignore it, you won't see it anyway, fix it later. But ignoring probably leads to infection, and if you don't treat until much later, it may be too late. Infection may spread, may kill you. Or it is a symptom of some serious disease, had you visited a doctor sooner.

So deal with this CTD right now, because all your progress from this point may be going to waste.

Edited July 1, 2018 by tomomi1922

[Hideaways76]

I think it's the order I installed my mods in MO, not the LOOT load order, but I will double check and read the guide, thank you QuagaarWarrior and ff7legend.

 

I'll follow your directions tomomi1922 and see what happens in my current game, but I was going to create a new game anyway since I know you don't mess with CTDs in your game.

(and Belt Fastened Quivers actually works for me, but I'll try XPMSSE)

 

Thanks to everyone for the advice !

Edited July 1, 2018 by Hideaways76