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Skingrad Houses, Missing Meshes, need a reply


RayzerCalitri

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Hi, so I have an issue regarding invisible/disappearing houses in Skingrad (dunno about any other city, so far only happens in Skingrad). Three houses near the Chapel District have no meshes or anything and I can't use Refscope or FormID finder because it literally is no house, just a standing door with no building, and when activating the door everything works as usual, but no exterior meshes or anything. It doesn't happen in any other town or city for what I recall. I've used BOSS, and other tools, but to no avail. I dunno if these houses have to do with the Glarthir quest (been too long since I did that quest for the last time), but the houses's owners are Bernadette Peneles, Uuras the Shepherd, and Ambroise Canne. I've tried many things, but I really can't find a fix for this. Do not suggest to delete any mods, because I've been trying to play a stable/acceptable modded playthrough with FCOM Superpack and other stuff and I just want to know of any "safer" and easier alternative solution.


I use OBSE plugins like NVAC, OSR, Blockhead, Pluggy, MenuQue and others.


This is my load order (btw I'm using Mod Organizer)



# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

Oblivion.esm

All Natural Base.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Cobl Main.esm

TamRes.esm

TamRes_LandscapeResource.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm

TamrielTravellers.esm

FCOM_Convergence.esm

Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm

bookplacing.esm

CM Partners.esm

Oblivifall Master File.esm

RealisticLeveling.esm

TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp

TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOPS Additional Changes.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

TamRes.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

FCOM_Francescos.esp

FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp

FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

All Natural.esp

All Natural - SI.esp

All Natural - MMM Patch.esp

Immersive Interiors.esp

Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp

Symphony of Violence.esp

AmbientTownSounds.esp

MIS.esp

MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp

Troy_HeartbeatBreath.esp

Rainbows.esp

All Natural - Real Lights.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

WindowLightingSystem.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

Chapel Tithe.esp

Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp

ReneersNotesMod.esp

Willful Resistance.esp

Enhanced Economy.esp

FF_Real_Thirst.esp

DropLitTorchOBSE.esp

kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp

kuerteeCleanUp.esp

P1DmenuEscape.esp

Quest Log Manager.esp

skycaptains NPCFF.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

Map Marker Overhaul.esp

Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp

Enhanced Hotkeys.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

Book Jackets DLC.esp

GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp

EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp

HelmetCollection.esp

SomewhatRealisticSwords.esp

LevelerCheat.esp

kuerteeHorseCommands.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp

Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

FCOM_BobsArmory.esp

Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp

FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp

Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

FCOM_WarCry.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

Hemingweys Capes Improved for FCOM.esp

Hemingweys Capes for FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp

OMOBS_SI.esp

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

FCOM_Convergence.esp

FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp

FCOM_RealSwords.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp

FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp

TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp

TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp

TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp

TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp

ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp

FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp

FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp

FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp

FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp

FCOM_Archery.esp

FCOM_Archery_RealSwords.esp

FCOM_Archery_MMM_H&C.esp

FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp

FineWeapons for OOO.esp

RustyItems for OOO.esp

MMM-Cobl.esp

KnightlyArmory.esp

Ivellon.esp

Guardians of the Nine - Akatosh Chantry.esp

GlimmeringCastle.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

LetThePeopleDrink.esp

Museum.esp

za_bankmod.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Book Jackets.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp

SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp

DLC_MOBS.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

MannimarcoRevisited.esp

MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp

MannimarcoWardrobeChest.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp

FCOM_Knights.esp

Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp

FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp

road+bridges.esp

HeartOftheDead.esp

Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp

Oblivifall - Losing My Religion Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

Oblivifall - Losing My Religion KOTN.esp

Oblivifall - Losing My Religion_HOTD_Patch.esp

NRB4+LtPD Patch.esp

Castle_Seaview.esp

Fort Akatosh Redux.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

Book Placement v2.esp

CompanionHorseSupportFIX forCMPartners.esp

HUD Status Bars.esp

EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp

Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp

Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.32 DT.esp

kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp

NPC Water-Sink.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp

Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp

Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp

Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp

Alternative Beginnings.esp

Alternative Beginnings - Kvatch Intact.esp

SM Encumbrance and Fatigue.esp

NoHealingDuringWait.esp

RealSleepExtended.esp

DuplicateItemSpell.esp

RefScope.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Syc_AtHomeAlchemy_No_Bounty_v2.esp

EnchantmentRestore.esp

SM Combat Hide.esp

sycHearNoEvil.esp

Merged Patch.esp

sycSHOUT.esp

kuerteeCrimeHasWitnesses.esp

Enhanced Grabbing.esp

Armorer's Advantage.esp

Combat Fumbling.esp

Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp

Phitt's Phighting Phixes.esp

SkillDecay.esp

The Versatile Adventurer.esp

Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp

Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp

Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp

Item interchange - Extraction.esp

Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp

Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp

ElaborateEyes.esp

CM Partners.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

Elves Of Lineage II.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

AsharasCMPartners.esp

Terimer.esp

CompanionMaster.esp

EVE_KhajiitFix.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp

Real Hunger, Cobl.esp

NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp

Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp

All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp

NoDisarmAttackOrBlock.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

SuperPack Patch.esp

DynamicLeveledLists.esp



PD: Also, these three houses don't exist at all, but when I check Construction Set, all seems to be fine. This seems really odd. I've had other issues overall with this game and I have always browsed on Google for answers to see if other people experienced them, but Hell, either I simply can't easily find anything about it on the Internet, or I'm really the only one experiencing this. This game truly is the one which has given me headaches and frustration to fix stuff, lol. Been playing this game for many years, and after like 5 or 6, I decided to play again, and overall I somehow managed to more or less fix almost anything and this modded set is very playable (with some framerate drops from time to time), but this thing right now beats me. BTW, I'm playing on a gaming laptop (MSI) with Intel Core i7, a nVidia GTX 960M graphics card, 16 Gb RAM, and of course OS is Windows 10.

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So this seems to be more than just those 3 houses, I'm inside the daedric tower of the Oblivion gate of Kvatch and in the corridors there is no ground/floor. The enemies keep falling endlessly.

 

I reinstalled the game, and it definitely didn't do anything, all is still the same.

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That's why we, the authors, disprove of "illegal mod packs" such as this. Nobody but the "thief" will know what's inside now.

 

Houses disappearing but not showing a huge exclamation mark/missing mesh error in their place usually is -not- a missing mesh/NIF file.

Door locations are stored inside your save game the first time you visit a place. So when you first were in Skingrad before, then installed a mod which moves/removes some houses, their doors will remain.

But I'm not seeing any mod off the top of my head which would do anything like that in your load order.

And now grounds of certain cells are disappearing, too?

 

Maybe it's a compatibility issue between some of those mods, or even the patch by the thief at the end. Or maybe you added 1 incompatible mod to the pre-designed list or removed 1. This, too, can kill a mod pack.

Maybe some of it even is a known issue from one of the stolen mods, which was subsequently fixed in a later update the mod pack is now lacking still or can't easily introduce.

And to top it all off, nobody here knows what's inside that last patch plugin, or even if perhaps some things were "modified" inside the stolen plugins, for the sake of compatibility and/or customization to the thief's personal tastes.

Not even the original authors of the individual mods stolen can help you anymore now.

 

I'm afraid, if you encounter issues with using illegal mod packs, you'll be on your own and/or having to ask the thieves about what it is. Mentioning the packs' names here will only anger the authors stolen from more.

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