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Hey I am have problem with difficulty balancing, I just started a new game with a fresh modlist. So the problem is enemies outside a bandit camp or dungeons are weak bandits and inside they are a lot stronger for my level, im only level 6. Btw i am playing on adept. I dont think any of my mods changes level scaling, except maybe Ordinator. So any help would be very appreciated.

Modlist

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
7 7 MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm
8 8 Cutting Room Floor.esp
9 9 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
10 a VioLens SE.esp
11 b VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp
12 c EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
13 d Vivid WeathersSE.esp
14 e Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp
15 f Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
16 10 Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
17 11 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
18 12 Backshields.esp
19 13 Lethal Traps.esp
20 14 WetandCold.esp
21 15 AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
22 16 Spells Emit Light - Dim.esp
23 17 MajesticMountains.esp
24 18 Immersive Jewelry.esp
25 19 WeightLessTrueAll.esp
26 1a Blowing in the Wind.esp
27 1b Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch.esp
28 1c Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
29 1d WICO - Immersive People.esp
30 1e Distinct Interiors.esp
31 1f hearthfireextended.esp
32 20 MajesticMountains_Moss.esp
33 21 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
34 22 Point The Way.esp
35 23 SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp
36 24 SkyrimSewers.esp
37 25 Run For Your Lives.esp
38 26 Immersive Patrols II.esp
39 27 IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp
40 28 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
41 29 CollegeStudents.esp
42 2a Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch.esp
43 2b Unique Uniques.esp
44 2c AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
45 2d Differently Ebony.esp
46 2e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
47 2f dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
48 30 Footprints.esp
49 31 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
50 32 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
51 33 Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp
52 34 WardsFunctionalitiesExtended.esp
53 35 Predator Vision.esp
54 36 WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp
55 37 Simple AUA.esp
56 38 SSE High Quality Music.esp
57 39 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
58 3a SGEyebrows.esp
59 3b Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods.esp
60 3c Mortal Enemies - No RunWalk Changes.esp
61 3d Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
62 3e Artful Dodger - Dynamic Pickpocket Cap.esp
63 3f SkyUI_SE.esp
64 40 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
65 41 WardsFunctionalitiesExtended - Ordinator Patch.esp
66 42 20 More Perk Points.esp
67 43 honedmetal.esp
68 44 Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp
69 45 Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp
70 46 Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp
71 47 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
72 48 HarvestOverhaul_Redone_Creatures.esp
73 49 HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp
74 4a KS Dragon Overhaul 2.esp
75 4b Crime Overhaul Expanded.esp
76 4c Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
77 4d Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp
78 4e WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp
79 4f ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
80 50 WICO - Immersive Character.esp
81 51 EEO CRF patch.esp
82 52 AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.esp
83 53 MagicDuelReborn.esp
84 54 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
85 55 DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp
86 56 BVFE.esp
87 57 BVFE_Serana.esp
88 58 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp
89 59 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
90 5a EEO Imperious patch.esp
91 5b Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
92 5c Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
93 5d Convenient Horses.esp
94 5e Realistic AI Detection 2 SE - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.esp
95 5f Hunters Not Bandits.esp
96 60 MLU.esp
97 61 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
98 62 ELFXEnhancer.esp
99 63 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp
100 64 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
101 65 RWT Lod Fix.esp

 

 

 

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you need a bashed patch from Wrye ( in my siggy ) and you also need to swap these 2 files

 

5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
It specifically states on the patch description page that nothing should load before the patch except the vanilla files
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Hey I am have problem with difficulty balancing, I just started a new game with a fresh modlist. So the problem is enemies outside a bandit camp or dungeons are weak bandits and inside they are a lot stronger for my level, im only level 6. Btw i am playing on adept. I dont think any of my mods changes level scaling, except maybe Ordinator. So any help would be very appreciated.

Modlist

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
7 7 MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm
8 8 Cutting Room Floor.esp
9 9 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
10 a VioLens SE.esp
11 b VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp
12 c EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
13 d Vivid WeathersSE.esp
14 e Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp
15 f Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
16 10 Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
17 11 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
18 12 Backshields.esp
19 13 Lethal Traps.esp
20 14 WetandCold.esp
21 15 AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
22 16 Spells Emit Light - Dim.esp
23 17 MajesticMountains.esp
24 18 Immersive Jewelry.esp
25 19 WeightLessTrueAll.esp
26 1a Blowing in the Wind.esp
27 1b Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch.esp
28 1c Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
29 1d WICO - Immersive People.esp
30 1e Distinct Interiors.esp
31 1f hearthfireextended.esp
32 20 MajesticMountains_Moss.esp
33 21 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
34 22 Point The Way.esp
35 23 SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp
36 24 SkyrimSewers.esp
37 25 Run For Your Lives.esp
38 26 Immersive Patrols II.esp
39 27 IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp
40 28 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
41 29 CollegeStudents.esp
42 2a Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch.esp
43 2b Unique Uniques.esp
44 2c AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
45 2d Differently Ebony.esp
46 2e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
47 2f dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
48 30 Footprints.esp
49 31 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
50 32 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
51 33 Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp
52 34 WardsFunctionalitiesExtended.esp
53 35 Predator Vision.esp
54 36 WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp
55 37 Simple AUA.esp
56 38 SSE High Quality Music.esp
57 39 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
58 3a SGEyebrows.esp
59 3b Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods.esp
60 3c Mortal Enemies - No RunWalk Changes.esp
61 3d Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
62 3e Artful Dodger - Dynamic Pickpocket Cap.esp
63 3f SkyUI_SE.esp
64 40 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
65 41 WardsFunctionalitiesExtended - Ordinator Patch.esp
66 42 20 More Perk Points.esp
67 43 honedmetal.esp
68 44 Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp
69 45 Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp
70 46 Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp
71 47 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
72 48 HarvestOverhaul_Redone_Creatures.esp
73 49 HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp
74 4a KS Dragon Overhaul 2.esp
75 4b Crime Overhaul Expanded.esp
76 4c Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
77 4d Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp
78 4e WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp
79 4f ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
80 50 WICO - Immersive Character.esp
81 51 EEO CRF patch.esp
82 52 AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.esp
83 53 MagicDuelReborn.esp
84 54 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
85 55 DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp
86 56 BVFE.esp
87 57 BVFE_Serana.esp
88 58 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp
89 59 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
90 5a EEO Imperious patch.esp
91 5b Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
92 5c Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
93 5d Convenient Horses.esp
94 5e Realistic AI Detection 2 SE - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.esp
95 5f Hunters Not Bandits.esp
96 60 MLU.esp
97 61 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
98 62 ELFXEnhancer.esp
99 63 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp
100 64 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
101 65 RWT Lod Fix.esp

 

 

 

I crank the challenge level all the way up, and still would like a higher level of challenge from the vanilla game. Even at the highest challenge many mobs are squishy with paper-towel armor.

 

Wrye won't fix this. But if you ever have technical problems with your game that Wrye could actually fix, you might follow gromulos's guide (link which is missing from his siggy ). I don't think it applies here.

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I think the OP needs to look at difficulty enhancing mods. The vanilla game just isnt very challenging.

You could look at combat overhauls like:

Vigor

Wildcat

Mortal Enemies

 

Also enemy spawning mods:

Populated series

Immersive creatures

High level enemies

 

Maybe a delevelled world:

Morrowloot

Skyrim Revamped

 

Personally I am using Omega to sort all of the above

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@Tony_OQuinn

 

I posted my guide because i saw several mods that added leveled list, thinking that one of the mods could affect enemy levels was my reasoning

 

But, you are right, if the OP is not having issues like you outlined then my guide will still help him or her, but not fix the issue in question

 

Nice catch, I was not feeling well when I answered this post

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