Thinking about trying Vortex in a new F04 install, some questions

[BlackTestament7]

So I'm considering reinstalling my fallout 4 because I have to update so much after not playing this game for a while after playing through new vegas a few times. I just finished new vegas and was gonna wait until both New Cali and the Frontier both released fully and go back to playing that. That being said because I've gone so long playing FO4 I need to update a lot of mods, remerge and whatnot which I don't have an issue with but I was considering just reinstalling all the mods from scratch over again and trying out Vortex after seeing a notification about the beta release.

 

 

I just really had 2 or so questions before I started with this:
- I only want to use this for Fallout 4 and maybe Skyrim in the future, I don't want this to affect my Fallout 3 or NV installs as they work and I don't use LOOT for those. is it possible to keep those in NMM and have Vortex leave them alone?

- I use a Leveled List Reset esp to keep certain modded in weapons/armor that I don't want in the Leveled List out. It pretty much means I need at least some level of ability to move mods above it and keep it near the top where it only affects what I put above it. Is there a way to do that or is there no way around the LOOT management?

Edited October 11, 2018 by BlackTestament7

[BigBizkit]

Hi,

 

To answer your questions:

 

1. Yes, you can manage some games with NMM and others with Vortex. The only thing to consider is that only one application (NMM or Vortex) can be set to handle "Download with Manager" buttons.

2. Absolutely. You can specify your own plugin rules, or group rules (for several plugins at once). For details please consult this section of our documentation: https://wiki.nexusmods.com/index.php/Managing_your_Load_Order

 

Let me know if you have further questions.

[UhlanB76]

I'll add a short comment here as a user of NMM, MO 2 and for a few months Vortex. All three managers are good at something, but downloading mods is not on that list. I have lost GBs of files from each one while trying early downloads. I do not trust anyone of them for direct downloads. I have a separate storage directory on my harddrive that has about 450 GBs of mod files for both SSE and FO4. I only use manual download now; and then install from file to the various managers. This way if there is a problem I know the manager is not involved.

 

That said, I have found Vortex to be very stable when I use this approach. Currently there are five profiles on the Vortex installation varying from 8 mods to 150 plus mods. I am almost constantly installing, removing and deleting mods from the various profiles while trying different formats, flavors and functions. All of those actions have been pretty quick and I have not had any problems to speak of. I even had a couple crashes of the PC due to power loss, but Vortex still worked fine when I got it back. I much prefer Vortex for this kind of installation, but MO2 is better for the true expert who wants to dive deep.

[UhlanB76]

Sorry...

 

Slow network added a double post....

Edited October 12, 2018 by UhlanB76

[rmm200]

There should never be a need to reinstall Fallout 4. In whatever mod manager you were using, delete all the old mods.

Clean up your Fallout 4 directory. Maybe so far as to delete data/meshes, data/textures, data/scripts, and data/f4se.

And any other folders that look like they don't belong.

Now, in Steam, use the local files option Verify Files.

That should put you back to pristine, and is a ton faster than reinstalling.

Vortex will make no permanent changes to your game directory, so you should never have to do this again.

Try running Fallout 4 a bit to make sure it all still works without mods.

You are all set to start installing mods!

[sopmac45]

There should never be a need to reinstall Fallout 4. In whatever mod manager you were using, delete all the old mods.

Clean up your Fallout 4 directory. Maybe so far as to delete data/meshes, data/textures, data/scripts, and data/f4se.

And any other folders that look like they don't belong.

Now, in Steam, use the local files option Verify Files.

That should put you back to pristine, and is a ton faster than reinstalling.

Vortex will make no permanent changes to your game directory, so you should never have to do this again.

Try running Fallout 4 a bit to make sure it all still works without mods.

You are all set to start installing mods!

 

Very interesting rmm200 … I will look into this procedure .. when you said to clean your Fallout 4 directory, practically you are advising to wipe out : C:\ProgramFile ( 86)\Steam\Steamapps\Common\Fallout4 …. am I correct ? So after doing that, I am practically deleting my game from that directory and in Steam when I verify cache files and hit the OK, you are saying that my game will practically reinstall without actually reinstalling the game ? Please clarify !

[HadToRegister]

Props to the OP on going about trying a new mod manager the smart way.
It's best to try something unknown on a new install of a game, rather than attempting to migrate from a 200+ mod install of your game and getting mad and blaming Vortex.

I had uninstalled Fallout 4 a while ago, but I wanted to see what all the fuss was about with Vortex, so rather than jeopardize my established game installs, I decided to experiment on Fallout 4 by reinstalling it.

That way, no matter what I screwed up, or if Vortex hiccuped, it woulldn't be a problem recovering from it, as I would lose nothing except a small amount of time.

Once I spent enough time working with Vortex to know what I was doing, THAT is when I decided to migrate one of my games from NMM to Vortex, and it went smoothly, because I also spent a lot of time reading word for word, how to properly import my game to Vortex.