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ancientshark

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Alright, I usually try to problem solve this. I've been trying to figure out what issues I've been having, which primarily have been grey/brown face bug and certain npcs not have the remodel that they were supposed to have. I have all dlcs, as will be listed below, but I'm not... Sure what I'm doing wrong?

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 ApachiiHair.esm
7 7 ApachiiHairFemales.esm
8 8 ApachiiHairMales.esm
9 9 SGHairPackBase.esm
10 a RaceCompatibility.esm
11 b RSkyrimChildren.esm
12 c Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
13 d RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp
14 e Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
15 f _Patch - Normal Faces - VFWC.esp
16 10 RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
17 11 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
18 12 KS Hairdo's.esp
19 13 SGHairPackAIO.esp
20 14 LovelyHairstylesCE.esp
21 15 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
22 16 SVOM.esp
marriageablemalenpcs.esp
23 17 LC_BuildYourNobleHouse.esp
NatureOfSkyrim.esp
24 18 ArgonianOverhaul.esp
25 19 SkyUI.esp
26 1a BRB_BeastRaceBodypaints.esp
27 1b SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp
28 1c Player Size Adjuster.esp
29 1d MonsterEyes.esp
30 1e The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
31 1f Brows.esp
32 20 OmEyes.esp
33 21 Saeri_Khajiit_Hair.esp
34 22 RaceMenuOverlays.esp
35 23 rrhair.esp
36 24 LindsMerEyes.esp
37 25 rrhair2.esp
38 26 rrhair3.esp
39 27 rrhairargonian.esp
40 28 rrhairkhajiit.esp
41 29 SC_hairs.esp
42 2a RaceMenu.esp
43 2b RaceMenuPlugin.esp
44 2c HearthfireMultiKid.esp
45 2d marriagemod - alpha v3.esp
46 2e GuildStarter.esp
47 2f RutahTattooPack.esp
48 30 erbos'sargonianplayer.esp
49 31 Deadly Destruction.esp
50 32 Training_Overhaul_V2.esp
hornsareforever.esp
51 33 MarkofDBFinal.esp
FabLookEyes.esp
52 34 argonianaleretexture.esp
53 35 noguardhelmets.esp
test01.esp
54 36 waterbreathing breathless emerge.esp
55 37 argonianclaws.esp
56 38 Sven Ballad Dialogue Option Restored.esp
57 39 QuieterDogs.esp
58 3a Cloaks.esp
59 3b MPMM_Standalone.esp
60 3c JaxonzRenamer.esp
61 3d Additional Children Clothes.esp
62 3e HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
63 3f Revive.esp
64 40 NobleChildBeds.esp
65 41 Toys.esp
CarriageEncumbrance.esp
66 42 argonianraptor.esp
67 43 Dogs-of-Skyrim.esp
JKs Whiterun.esp
68 44 Immersive Wenches.esp
69 45 Verzus' Unique Items.esp
SmartNoMoreStupidDog.esp
essentialfollowerdogs.esp
70 46 ImprovedMeeko.esp
71 47 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
72 48 Child names without surname.esp
73 49 Immersive Horses.esp
74 4a Goblin's Vampire Home.esp
75 4b JaxonzRenamerFollowerTweak.esp
76 4c smfViktor (2).esp
mr-riverwood.esp
77 4d SummonValeDeer.esp
78 4e DiverseWerewolvesCollection.esp
79 4f Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp
80 50 s7oChickenFix.esp
81 51 KhajiitfemGuild.esp
82 52 ArgonianfemGuild.esp
RabbitKing.esp
83 53 prometheus_beastskeletons.esp
DogKing.esp
84 54 Vendor-test.esp
85 55 Vampire Inn.esp
86 56 ArgonianExpForce.esp
87 57 Lucien.esp
Tens.esp
88 58 JokerineArgonianSettlement.esp
89 59 DarkwaterDen.esp
90 5a argonianexports.esp
91 5b RidGrif.esp
92 5c MegaMount.esp
93 5d fishinginskyrim.esp
94 5e hubertfollower.esp
95 5f Coldhaven.esp
96 60 Calves.esp
97 61 QaxeWindcallerTower.esp
star.esp
98 62 HatchlingChasesStarlight.esp
99 63 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
100 64 SkadeTheLastKingdom.esp
101 65 MystNobleSavage.esp
102 66 MashiraEveryone'sOwnChildren.esp
103 67 More Argonians.esp
104 68 apcsAlready_Inspected.esp
105 69 ArgonianBandits.esp
106 6a Unarmed Sounds and Animations for Vampires (with Idles).esp
[+]K's_Sven[+].esp
[+]K's_Faendal[+].esp
[+]K's_Vilkas[+].esp
Babette.esp
togglehelm.esp
107 6b GothicaVampireEyes.esp
108 6c GCE Liselotte.esp
109 6d GCE Ferdinand.esp
110 6e IHRRakeemFollower.esp
111 6f IHRRoffeFollower.esp
112 70 IHRMeghanFollower.esp
113 71 NoMoreUglyVampireLord.esp
114 72 CustomVLFormWings.esp
115 73 Burning Sands.esp
116 74 VampireNightmares.esp
117 75 Vampire_NoSunDamage_Hoods&Helmets.esp
118 76 01VampireNoDirtTintmask.esp
119 77 AZ Argonian & Khajiit Vampire No Color Change.esp
120 78 VFWC.esp
121 79 CobbVampShade.esp
122 7a Vero Follower.esp
123 7b Werewolf Revert Form.esp
124 7c Werewolf_Height_Medium.esp
125 7d Fachry Snow Heart Follower.esp
126 7e SummonMiniDragons.esp
127 7f Undriel_FallingGildergreenPetals.esp
128 80 TDNEquipableHorns.esp
129 81 The Vampire Lord's Spellbook.esp
130 82 Sirius the Vampire - Vampire Follower with Custom AI.esp
131 83 LucyAdoptableVampireRS.esp
132 84 Lillith Follower.esp
133 85 Kavula_Vampire_Followers.esp
134 86 improved vampire cattle - thalmor edition.esp
135 87 IVRAidcm.esp
136 88 Werewolf Duration Remover.esp
137 89 CharacterMakingExtender.esp
138 8a RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
139 8b azelfollower.esp
140 8c Animated Dragon Wings.esp
141 8d Akemi4ByAsherz.esp
142 8e Hott Argonians - Standalone.esp
143 8f [+]K's_Farkas[+].esp
144 90 [+]K's_Marcurio[+].esp
145 91 [+]K's_Torvar[+].esp
146 92 RSChildren.esp
147 93 LupineWerewolfPerkExpansion.esp
148 94 KCECuteTail.esp
149 95 CatKing.esp
150 96 RatKing.esp
151 97 Ultimate NPC Overhaul II.esp
152 98 Seductress Elizabeth.esp
153 99 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
154 9a XPMSE.esp
This is my load order. If there's something I'm confusing, PLEASE let me know.
I'm not very good at modding, so I have been frustrated. I'm trying to avoid downloading FNIS because it caused me so much issues when I did, but I know the XPMSE may need it? But I thought it didn't because I've used it before (unless it just never worked.)
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i've been modding Skyrim since 2011 but even my mod list isn't that long...

 

if it's gray face bug then see if the mod in question has the proper facegen files, look for it in your skyrim data folder

:Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\Meshes\Actors\Character\FaceGenData\FaceGeom\(name of mod here).esp

and

:Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\textures\actors\character\FaceGenData\FaceTint\(name of mod here).esp

 

and i don't recognize most of these mods but you seem to have several mods editing NPCs, turn them off then switch one NPC mod on, one by one to narrow down which mod is causing conflicts, there's probably easier and newer ways of going about this, maybe somebody already made a mod conflict "searching" tool of some sort but all i know are the "old school" ways, heck most my Skyrim mods are still installed manually.

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i've been modding Skyrim since 2011 but even my mod list isn't that long...

 

if it's gray face bug then see if the mod in question has the proper facegen files, look for it in your skyrim data folder

:Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\Meshes\Actors\Character\FaceGenData\FaceGeom\(name of mod here).esp

and

:Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\textures\actors\character\FaceGenData\FaceTint\(name of mod here).esp

 

and i don't recognize most of these mods but you seem to have several mods editing NPCs, turn them off then switch one NPC mod on, one by one to narrow down which mod is causing conflicts, there's probably easier and newer ways of going about this, maybe somebody already made a mod conflict "searching" tool of some sort but all i know are the "old school" ways, heck most my Skyrim mods are still installed manually.

 

 

So, in regards to this next problem. I have been using mod organizer. Should I just go ahead and throw those in there? Also, I know that I'm using multiple mods for appearances. But I should only have like, Ultimate NPC Overhaul II, Hot Argonians (Which just gives them feathers), and Seductress Seranda. Yet, I'm not sure what's conflicting elsewise, as I'm wondering if I am missing something personally when I look over those files, since I've started having issues weirdly that Serana is completely unaffected by mods. Like. She's so vanilla it hurts. xD; But otherwise, I can try doing that, too. It just sucks because I had decided to go with Mod Organizer because I heard it was better? Is it not really compared to NMM?

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While popular somewhat, Ultimate NPC Overhaul II is problematic re gray faces it seems, from the comments.

 

I have no first hand knowledge of it, I won't use a mod with so many hard wired reqs and a stolen assets hair mod.

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If it's really just Ultimate NPC Overhaul, I'll just use something else. xD; But yeah, I can understand that. :/

 

While popular somewhat, Ultimate NPC Overhaul II is problematic re gray faces it seems, from the comments.

 

I have no first hand knowledge of it, I won't use a mod with so many hard wired reqs and a stolen assets hair mod.

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