Grass mods not working 2nd edition

[Duriel7]

Hi everybody,

 

As a following of this one : https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2493409-grass-mods-not-working/?hl=%2Bgrass

I tried those settings in my *.ini files ... without success... even without mods, just configs, grass does not change, I tried to put MinGrassSize to 80 instead of 20... the density did not diminish.

Other retexture mods work normally. Like Redguard unique scimitars, or Superior Lore Friendly Hair for example.

 

I tried SFO, Extreme Grass, Grass Field, Logical Grass + Lush Grass two, SkyRealism, and Tamriel Reloaded Field Grass.

 

I don't ask for such greenish textures as it probably comes from an ENB of something I'm not a fan of, but I just ask not to play Skyrim New Vegas... if I want a full baren wasteland, I just play FNV... As I saw in the mods I quoted : grass covering the floor, be it green-maroonish of green-yellowish... juste grass everywhere. I would be happy just with https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/110/images/25370-1-1350018953.jpg (this is from SkyRealism).

Currently I have some bushes at some places and big holes with just grey/brown-grey dirt and some rocks in. Like I mean, vanilla Skyrim...

But there is the problem : I can't seem to obtain grass tweaks/texture mods to work as even my *.ini tweaks don't make a difference. I searched in diverse forums here and there (and here in the Nexus also obviously), Googled some things/key words... did a large amount of tests... never came to make it work. Even pine trees with SFO don't change. That's weird.

 

This is my Skyrim.ini settings as adviced by the aforementioned topic :

[Grass]
bAllowCreateGrass=1
bAllowLoadGrass=0
iMinGrassSize=20 <== I changed it a bit following the mod I tested
bDrawShaderGrass=1
iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=3 <== I changed it to 7 or 15 following the mod also
bGrassPointLighting=1
iGrassCellRadius=2
b30GrassVS=0

And SkyrimPrefs.ini :

[Grass]
b30GrassVS=1
fGrassStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=3000.0000

Even Natural Grass, which should give green soil texture is not working. I still have the brown-greyish vanilla Skyrim ground texture. I don't know why.

Unactivating the official High Res Texture pack does not seem to do anything. I can't see what's going wrong with grass mods.

 

At least, I expected this result : https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3070514-annoying-brown-grass-in-skyrim/?hl=grass I mean some herbs and grass patches here and there. For a start.

 

Forcing the mod to load after all others does nothing either, like this guy https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2096734-help-grass-mods-do-not-work/?hl=grass suggested, he also loaded the files manually, I did it to test, but it does nothing more... I can't understand why grass mod don't work. Is there an *.ini editing for vortex as it is in MO like this guy mentioned ?

 

This is driving me insane, thanks to everyone who could give me hints to solve this problem.

 

Here's my load order, if it helps (sorry for the 250 lines, anyone knows how to put spoilers in Nexus forums ?)(there's nothing more after this huge list) :

 

# Automatically generated by Vortex
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
EFFCore.esm
Campfire.esm
notice board.esp
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
JSwords.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RaceMenu.esp
nordicrangerarmor.esp
TheHermit.esp
LoreBalanceCombat.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
RealisticRoomRental.esp
Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
Artifact Disenchanting.esp
PerkUP-Smithing.esp
Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Training Dummies XP.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
Keeping Warm.esp
Cloaks.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
SkyUI.esp
Hunterborn.esp
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp
Frostfall.esp
HarvestOverhaul.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
DawnguardArsenal.esp
PatronGodsOfSkyrim.esp
SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp
BBD_SkyrimFishing.esp
Blade of Eplear.esp
Artifact Disenchanting - Dawnguard.esp
Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
Armures traditionnelles de Bordeciel III.esp
jutsu.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
Immersive Music Temples.esp
Immersive Music.esp
Nicoroshi Creations.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
Enchantments Upgraded.esp
UniqueBows.esp
Portals of Skyrim.esp
PerkUP-OneHanded.esp
PerkUP-TwoHanded.esp
PerkUP-Alchemy.esp
PerkUP-Destruction.esp
PerkUP-Alteration.esp
JoOMagicMod01.esp
Nicos Craftable Arrows.esp
iNeed.esp
j3x-autocrossbows.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp
armorbalance.esp
Artifact Disenchanting - Dragonborn.esp
TradeBarter.esp
DDD-BardsLute.esp
AstralMerchantAndChest.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
AutoRechargeWeapons.esp
BBD_MoreMagic.esp
PerkUP-Archery.esp
Bleed Them Dry - DG+DB.esp
Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
chfshImbuedSword.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
CraftableHoods.esp
CShacks.esp
EnemyEnhancer.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
DiverseDragonsCollection3.esp
DDC3-DD patch.esp
Death Souls.esp
Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp
DragonFire.esp
DragonFire-Dragonborn.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
PlayerHomeMapMarkers.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
Enchantment Extended.esp
FasterArrows100.esp
FormsEdit.esp
HackAndSlash.esp
HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp
Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp
Increased Bounty & Guild Rewards.esp
IndividualizedShoutCooldowns.esp
JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
JaxonzRenamer.esp
Melt_Down_Everything.esp
Naruto - Overhaul.esp
NewCookingRecipes.esp
NordicCooking.esp
PassiveWeaponEnchantmentRecharging.esp
PerkUP-Block.esp
PerkUP-Sneak.esp
PerkUP-Conjuration.esp
PerkUP-Enchanting.esp
PerkUP-LightArmor.esp
PerkUP-Speech.esp
PerkUP-Illusion.esp
PerkUP-Pickpocket.esp
PerkUP-Restoration.esp
PerkUP-HeavyArmor.esp
PerkUP-Lockpicking.esp
RacialPower.esp
Random Mining MCM.esp
samMoreIngots.esp
Skyrim Bandages 1.1 Mod.esp
SL01AmuletsSkyrim_DB.esp
SmartCast_1_0.esp
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
stranger_danger.esp
TavernGames.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dragonborn.esp
Training Dummies XP Dawnguard.esp
TransmuteAndFuseSoulGems.esp
UD3_Enchant.esp
UIExtensions.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
Unrelenting Force+ 100%.esp
BFSEffects.esp
DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp
Animated Dragon Wings.esp
More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp
More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp
DragonAspectToggle_DAT.esp
More Hair Colors Dawnguard.esp
Susanoo.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
IridumEyes2.0.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
Symphonies Of Skyrim.esp
NirShor-MusicalLore.esp
Celtic Music in Skyrim - Combat.esp
Celtic Music in Skyrim - Dungeons v1.1.esp
Celtic Music in Skyrim 2.0.esp
Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp
Music Patch - FSP IM NS SoS CMiS.esp
mancika_templarset.esp
DCR_Blade_Set_Reloaded_v1_0.esp
Altair`s Dagger.esp
Angel of death.esp
DragonBoneWeaponsComplete.esp
AtlanteanDragonSlayer.esp
ConanSwords.esp
KCEBattleClaws.esp
DLE_en.esp
DawnguardBoltsExtended.esp
DiamondCrossbow.esp
DiamondWeaponsN.esp
JSwords_Load_Screens.esp
YogWeapons.esp
Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp
Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp
HBetterBows.esp
LotR - Gimli's BattleAxe.esp
Heavenly She-wolf Skyrim.esp
Medieval_Furor.esp
RagnarSword.esp
VanHelsing.esp
MoraelinsMaces.esp
FS_NamelessLight.esp
PND.esp
PhoenixKatana.esp
Purifier.esp
RavensClaw.esp
Han.esp
Drow Armor Set.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
Negotiator.esp
OldDwarvenKatana_ENG.esp
Demonic Axe.esp
The Siegebreakers.esp
FS_Skycutter.esp
Viking Weaponry.esp
Raven Witch Armor.esp
Psiijic_Master_Outfits.esp
Contractor Armor.esp
Armure de chevalier draconique.esp
Dragon Bone Mage Armor.esp
BloodWitchArmor.esp
DreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.esp
Armure du Dragon d'argent.esp
Mavari Armor.esp
Warchiefarmor.esp
StandalonePack20.esp
GondorianArmour.esp
IthilienCloak.esp
InquisitorGear.esp
Sword Master Armor.esp
True Thief Armor.esp
Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
ISDBaniKatana all.esp
honedmetal.esp
LilithPack1.esp
NightsWatchArmor.esp
NightsWatchArmorLight.esp
TribalMightArmor.esp
Realistic AI Detection 2 - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.esp
AV1WarpaintPack.esp
RavensWarpaint2.esp
RavenWarpaints.esp
RavenWP3.esp
wgwarpaint2p0.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
SL01AmuletsSkyrim_Outfit_WICSkyCloaks.esp
Redguard_unique_swords.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

[Duriel7]

Bump for help.

[WsElite]

i don't know if that is about Vortex, but you can ask it in Vortex support team. however if the Vortex have "profile" specified ini like MO2 does (which i use), you need to change it "inside" Vortex, if you didn't change it in "Vortex", Vortex will use the default ini (in the Vortex profile) instead of your edited ini. in root folder. also you can check this prefs

 

Skyrim.ini:

 

[Grass]

iGrassCellRadius=2

bAllowCreateGrass=1

bAllowLoadGrass=0

bGrassPointLighting=1

b30GrassVS=0

iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=15 ; <--- set it to 3 if you're not using SFO or other textures. unique grasses users set it to 8. for Tamriel Reloaded Grass - Plants set it to 15;15 for Verdant.

iMinGrassSize=60 ; <--- lower values - denser Grass but greater impact on performance, Grass on Steroids user set it to 75 for best look, 120 for best performance; 60 to 70 for Verdant.

SkyrimPrefs.ini

[Grass]

b30GrassVS=0

fGrassStartFadeDistance=9000.0000

fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=9000.0000

fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=400.0000

 

Some grass mods have override of .ini make sure one of them is not changing some values (for example Unique Grasses). not my post, i found it in another older post thanks to Project579

 

hope this will help you.

[Duriel7]

Hi,

 

thanks for trying to help but I already did this, as I said, and i didn't do anything.

As for profile file, I didn't find anything either in Vortex root folder/application, other than the *.json file for deployment. For now I'm "enjoying" without grass, but for my personal curiosity and culture, I would like to solve this problem.

I'm not sure this is due to Vortex (to answer about contacting them). In fact I read about guys having the problem even in vanilla, MO, MO2... etc... so... I think it's due to Skyrim only. As I tried with a fresh new vanilla install and it didn't worked. And again, as I said, I tried everything I found around the Internet to make it work, with the new fresh vanilla install, and with my mod pack. For more than 5 mods... that makes a whole lot of tests.

[WsElite]

strange... troublesome problem, why can it be like that ? i've never encountered this persist problem with MO2. do you still need any help ?

[Duriel7]

Still... I can't find what is going on, like all these guys since 2012, nobody came to tell they found the solution. I don't think I'm going to find anytime soon.

Edited April 15, 2019 by Duriel7

[WsElite]

Still... I can't find what is going on, like all these guys since 2012, anybody came to tell they found the solution. I don't think I'm going to find anytime soon.

don't give up, mods are made for "enjoyment" not for "disappointment", you can turn off the high res texture pack and use this optimized HD textures pack (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/57353/), and try to arrange your "Data" load order (left side window), the grass overhaul after the "5 lines" of mod that you can't play without. and if the problem still persist you can try to move it to the bottom of "Data" order. you can pm me anytime if any problem persist or showing up.

[Duriel7]

Ah That's one thing I haven't tried yet. I'll try this Optimized HD textures pack. As for the load order, Vortex arrange it on itself, if I see it makes something wrong, I'll create a rule to put the HD pack before the grass overhaul. I'll try it maybe tomorrow, or at least before the end of this week and I'll tell you.

[WsElite]

yes, hope this will help your issues. also maybe you need to arrange it with "LOOT" not "Vortex", this is just suggestion.