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I'd really love some help. Anytime I go outside in cities or just outside in general it just crashes to desktop. I tried downloading fixes and stuff but I'm over my head. Here is my load order for my mods, and yeah I have a lot of them.

 

 

 

GameMode=Skyrim
Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm=1
RaceCompatibility.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim City Patch Modified.esm=1
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1
hdtHighHeel.esm=1
EFFCore.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
ImCh.esm=1
children followers -resources.esm=1
TKChildren.esm=1
Inconsequential Pets.esp=1
children followers - voicevanilla.esm=1
GeneralStores.esm=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1
Cutting Room Floor.esp=1
AAA_FyTy_Convincing_Coinage_FollowerFactionsAddon.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
FISS.esp=1
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1
dD-Medium Script Range.esp=1
iHUD.esp=1
more than one ring on a finger vanilla.esp=1
AMatterOfTime.esp=1
PersonalEyes.esp=1
NoWeightForSoulGem's.esp=1
muted zombie groans.esp=1
NoWeightForCreatureParts.esp=1
Weightless Tools.esp=1
Footprints.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
AK- Placeable Statics.esp=1
homes remodeled.esp=1
RLO - Interiors.esp=1
homes remodeled Windstad Manor GS.esp=1
homes remodeled Heljarchen Hall GS.esp=1
homes remodeled Lakeview Manor GS.esp=1
immersive roads.esp=1
SurCityFPSMax.esp=1
WeightlessTorches.esp=1
3DNPC.esp=1
RLO - Exteriors.esp=1
ApachiiHairStyles.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1
Immersive Interiors.esp=1
The Great City of Dawnstar.esp=1
homes remodeled Vlindrel HallGS.esp=1
Here There Be Monsters.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
hearthfireextended.esp=1
Wild World.esp=1
winterholdreborn.esp=1
Point The Way.esp=1
homes remodeled HoneysideGS.esp=1
homes remodeled Proudspire Manor GS.esp=1
GM_SnazzyHDNobleBedsMix.esp=1
homes remodeled Hjerim GS.esp=1
SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1
TownsAndCitiesEnhanced.esp=1
Falkreath Reborn.esp=1
LOST CITY.esp=1
Afterlife.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind.esp=1
EFFDialogue.esp=1
dragonsbridgeplayerhome.esp=1
Immersive Patrols II.esp=1
AAA_FyTy_XFL_Voicetype_Extension.esp=1
ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp=1
NoWeightForBooks.esp=1
NoWeightForScrolls.esp=1
WerewolfPerksExpanded.esp=1
SkyTweak.esp=1
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1
fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp=1
zzArmormashups.esp=1
LindsSpellslinger.esp=1
Cassiopaias Curse.esp=1
Facelight.esp=1
CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp=1
Sit Anywhere.esp=1
RLO - Effects.esp=1
UNP High Heels.esp=1
Differently Ebony.esp=1
NS_NobleDress.esp=1
KozakowyBlackStaysOutfit.esp=1
Outfit Tweaks.esp=1
NN_ArwenWBDresses.esp=1
NN_ElvishDresses.esp=1
__iolana.esp=1
AAA_FyTy_Relationshiprank_Checker_Dialogue.esp=1
marriablefollowerralof.esp=1
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp=1
CS_SoulFragmentsToSoulGems.esp=1
HARODATH_ImmersiveSoulgems.esp=1
yield.esp=1
UIExtensions.esp=1
Convenient Horses.esp=1
RealNames.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1
child_skeletons.esp=1
CZHCAD.esp=1
AF_Ancient_Fortress.esp=1
RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp=1
Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp=1
NormalVampireFaces.esp=1
sandboxcylinderheight.esp=1
Headtracking.esp=1
CN_Eyes.esp=1
SC_Mouth.esp=1
Armor and Clothing for Kids Patch - Vanilla + DLC Patches.esp=1
Armor and Clothing for Vanilla Child Races.esp=1
TKAA.esp=1
Better Vampires.esp=1
Unofficial Misc Bug Fixes.esp=1
Infinite charges for all staves.esp=1
SFO - Dragonborn.esp=1
GuardianStonesExpanded.esp=1
ImmersiveLoversComfort.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
Morthol Inharnced.esp=1
Enchanting - IDWIW.esp=1
TAVERiften.esp=1
TownsandVillagesEnhancedProAlpha.esp=1
MTSMagickaThief.esp=1
RiverwoodEnhancedPlugin.esp=1
Mysticism.esp=1
zzMaidOutfits.esp=1
Immersive Music Temples.esp=1
Bound Weapons.esp=1
Immersive Music.esp=1
MoreChildrenItem.esp=1
Sneak Tools.esp=1
PointTheWayExpandedCarriageFix.esp=1
Coldhaven.esp=1
Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp=1
ESFCompanions.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
Journal Dawnguard Dragonborn Quest Names.esp=1
RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp=1
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1
hc5changerace.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp=1
The Spell of Eternal Sleep.esp=1
Lakeview Extended Patch.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch.esp=1
TAVESolitude.esp=1
TAVEWindhelm.esp=1
PlayerHomeMapMarkers.esp=1
Curiosity Curse.esp=1
mannequin_collars.esp=1
HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp=1
Custom Family Home.esp=1
AmuletOfHomecoming.esp=1
CuttingStoneCorners.esp=1
Skyrim - Consistency fixes V1.0.esp=1
PlayableGreybeardRobe.esp=1
HFE-CRF-Patch.esp=1
MeekoReborn.esp=1
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1
Homestead.esp=1
LycHairstyler.esp=1
hearthfire_buyingots.esp=1
Elewin Pumps 2.esp=1
FNISSexyMove.esp=1
MeridaHair.esp=1
SOSRaceMenu.esp=1
XPMSE.esp=1
SuperFus.esp=1
Animations.esp=1
KCECuteTail.esp=1
USLEEP werewolf fix.esp=1
Skyrim Project Optimization - USLEEP Patch.esp=1
Beacon.esp=1
dbmisc.esp=1
JaxonzEnhGrab.esp=1
Child Adoption.esp=1
moveitLWT.esp=1
TKChildren.esp=1
_GC_Skaal_Outfit_For_Kids_V2.esp=1
ImCh - USLEEP patch.esp=1
Children Fight Back.esp=1
raeza.esp=1
TKMN_MoreAdoptableChildren.esp=1
ReAnimate.esp=1
FNIS_PCEA2.esp=1
FNISspells.esp=1
RobedDragonPlateArmor.esp=1
childrenfollowers - vanilla.esp=1
children followers - hearthfires.esp=1
cmuse_yumi_adoptable.esp=1
children followers - clones.esp=1
children followers - 3DNPC.esp=1
childskeletonfix.esp=1
Additional Children Clothes.esp=1
ExpandedChildrenGifts.esp=1
KS Jewelry.esp=1
JS Barenziah - Johnskyrim.esp=1
CarryWeightSpells.esp=1
WaterwalkingSpell.esp=1
ExpandedEnchanting.esp=1
PlayRandomIdle.esp=1
Auto Unequip Helmet.esp=1
arcane bow.esp=1
Dark Wing Heels Replacer.esp=1
Eye's Of Perfection.esp=1
1nivWICCloaks.esp=1
OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp=1
Inconsequential Pets - Global Bear Sound.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
Animation Objects - Merged.esp=1
Poser Hotkeys.esp=1
Immersive Weapons USLEEP Patch.esp=1
SaturationBoost.esp=1
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1
CosmeticVampireOverhaul.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
Provincial Courier Service.esp=1
RLO - IC Patch.esp=1
Skyrim Unbound.esp=1
ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp=1
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Oh wll, first off - don't install ELE and RLO together, that will cause many problems on the long run. Then, have you used LOOT to sort out your mods? The errors and warnings it might give you can be a great starting point to sort out possible errors. Do you use any additional visual mods, like ENB or a mod organizer?

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hey there.

if you crashing soon after you leaving "indoor" or "cities" that's mean you have insufficient memory, example area, Whiterun, you can tell me this area is the most memory fed area beside Riften and Markath, you need to allocating memory. remember this is 32 bit Skyrim, it has limited memory application you can try to allocating more memory in ENB local ini and your SKSE ini. if the problem still persist, you can try to disable one by one mod that alter "City", many cities mods are incompatible with each other, i can see your load list have like more than 10 altering cities mods, try to disable one by one on your new game and find the culprit. for the previous post by Baubeerhen27 yeah it's true, it has many problem. but it isn't fatal as causing CTD's, when it's conflicting each other, the lightning will goes wild but not as fatal as CTD's, the weather and lightning mods that conflicting each other is more fatal, but it is not wrong to avoid that. just use one lightning overhaul mod, don't use both of "ELE" and "RLO" together.

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SO I have an update. So now what's going on is that I created a new game but it crashes whenever I switch the gender to female.

 

GameMode=Skyrim
Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm=1
RaceCompatibility.esm=1
hdtHighHeel.esm=1
EFFCore.esm=1
children followers -resources.esm=1
TKChildren.esm=1
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1
Inconsequential Pets.esp=1
children followers - voicevanilla.esm=1
GeneralStores.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1
Cutting Room Floor.esp=1
AAA_FyTy_Convincing_Coinage_FollowerFactionsAddon.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
FISS.esp=1
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1
iHUD.esp=1
more than one ring on a finger vanilla.esp=0
AMatterOfTime.esp=1
PersonalEyes.esp=1
NoWeightForSoulGem's.esp=0
muted zombie groans.esp=1
NoWeightForCreatureParts.esp=0
Weightless Tools.esp=0
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
AK- Placeable Statics.esp=1
WeightlessTorches.esp=0
Holds.esp=1
immersive roads.esp=1
3DNPC.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
Immersive Interiors.esp=1
hearthfireextended.esp=1
GM_SnazzyHDNobleBedsMix.esp=1
SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1
TKAA.esp=1
Braverock.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
Falkreath Reborn.esp=1
Afterlife.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind.esp=1
EFFDialogue.esp=1
Immersive Patrols II.esp=1
AAA_FyTy_XFL_Voicetype_Extension.esp=1
NoWeightForBooks.esp=0
NoWeightForScrolls.esp=0
SkyTweak.esp=1
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp=1
zzArmormashups.esp=1
LindsSpellslinger.esp=1
Cassiopaias Curse.esp=1
Sit Anywhere.esp=1
UNP High Heels.esp=1
Outfit Tweaks.esp=1
NN_ArwenWBDresses.esp=1
NN_ElvishDresses.esp=1
AAA_FyTy_Relationshiprank_Checker_Dialogue.esp=1
HARODATH_ImmersiveSoulgems.esp=0
yield.esp=1
UIExtensions.esp=1
RealNames.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1
CZHCAD.esp=1
AF_Ancient_Fortress.esp=1
dragonsbridgeplayerhome.esp=1
RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp=1
sandboxcylinderheight.esp=1
Headtracking.esp=1
CN_Eyes.esp=1
Armor and Clothing for Kids Patch - Vanilla + DLC Patches.esp=1
Better Vampires.esp=1
Journal Dawnguard Dragonborn Quest Names.esp=0
Unofficial Misc Bug Fixes.esp=1
OMageReplacerPack.esp=1
PCEA DG n DB DLC for SkyRe_Races.esp=1
Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp=1
NormalVampireFaces.esp=1
Armor and Clothing for Vanilla Child Races.esp=1
Infinite charges for all staves.esp=1
SFO - Dragonborn.esp=1
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp=1
Sneak Tools.esp=1
CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp=1
ImmersiveLoversComfort.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
Enchanting - IDWIW.esp=1
MTSMagickaThief.esp=1
Mysticism.esp=1
zzMaidOutfits.esp=1
HoldTeleportSpells.esp=1
Immersive Music Temples.esp=1
Immersive Music.esp=1
Coldhaven.esp=1
Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp=1
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp=0
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp=1
The Spell of Eternal Sleep.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch.esp=1
mannequin_collars.esp=1
HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp=1
FNISSexyMove.esp=1
SOSRaceMenu.esp=1
XPMSE.esp=1
USLEEP werewolf fix.esp=0
dbmisc.esp=0
JaxonzEnhGrab.esp=1
Child Adoption.esp=1
moveitLWT.esp=0
TKChildren.esp=1
_GC_Skaal_Outfit_For_Kids_V2.esp=1
Children Fight Back.esp=1
TKMN_MoreAdoptableChildren.esp=1
ReAnimate.esp=1
childrenfollowers - vanilla.esp=1
children followers - hearthfires.esp=1
children followers - clones.esp=1
children followers - 3DNPC.esp=1
childskeletonfix.esp=1
Additional Children Clothes.esp=1
JS Barenziah - Johnskyrim.esp=1
CarryWeightSpells.esp=1
Dark Wing Heels Replacer.esp=0
Eye's Of Perfection.esp=1
1nivWICCloaks.esp=1
OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp=1
Inconsequential Pets - Global Bear Sound.esp=0
FNIS.esp=1
Immersive Weapons USLEEP Patch.esp=0
SaturationBoost.esp=0
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1
Skillbooks.esp=1
Skill Config.esp=1
CuttingStoneCorners.esp=1
FNIS_Zoo.esp=1
MeekoReborn.esp=1
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1
ScarletDawnArmor.esp=1
hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=0
dD-Medium Script Range.esp=0
Homestead.esp=1
LycHairstyler.esp=1
Dreams and Nightmares.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=0
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1
FNISspells.esp=1
FNISspells_Player_Power.esp=1
PlayRandomIdle.esp=1
Character Creation Overhaul.esp=1
CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp=1
CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp=1
CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp=1
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
Skyrim Unbound.esp=1
ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp=1
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1
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Hey pal, assuming you've followed the advice of your peers up to this point, I would proceed by unticking all of the .esp/.esm files concerning race one at a time until your gender-switch problem has been identified. Also, if your problem is related to switching to female, then you should consider unticking, in the same step-by-step/singular fashion, all of the mods concerning females.

 

I counted 8 .esp/.esm files with the word "race" in it

I counted 1 .esp file with the word gender in it.

Hdt High Heels, UNP High Heels, and mods of this nature will also need to be culled for purposes of testing CTD when you switch the player's gender to female. Any other mod that I have not recognized, but would fit the category of the ones that I've since identified, will also need to go.

 

All in all, this should be sufficient in identifying your CTD problem. As a general means of identifying .esp's/.esm's that are causing possible CTD, you should always untick HALF of your complete mod load order to see what half of your mods are causing the crashes. At this point, you would then pursue the remaining or existing half of mods that you either disabled (unticked) or have kept (ticked) to see which one in particular is the culprit. Though this is something to keep in mind, if all else fails, I do not think that it will be necessary to make a diagnosis in this way. The fashion in which you can fix your particular issue can, likely, be done as described in the minimal way as described in the previous paragraphs.

 

Always start a new game when testing for the best results. When the crashing stops, and you've successfully identified the mod/mods that are causing CTD's, review whether or not there is a way to keep them in your load order by means of a patch (.esp file) provided by the author of the mod in question or by the community. In all likelihood, I suspect that, just as was the case with your numerous lighting overhaul mods, your race and gender-affecting mods are not playing nicely with each other. Being strategic about your installation of these mods will ensure your future success in modding your Skyrim. In other words, always read up ahead of time to see the compatibility section of the mods that you wish to install, and being conservative with your installing habits goes a long way in keeping compatibility issues from arising. Avoid older mods and others that have little to no activity/support/troubleshooting advice by the author or the community. Older mods, in particular, may not be compatible with newer mods or newer versions of mods that they would otherwise have been compatible with.

 

When finished fixing your CTD issue, you may start a new game with confidence knowing that this issue will not show up again, or you may attempt to continue on your existing saves, though the latter option is not recommended for stable use. Race mods that alter the options and layout of the "showracemenu" console command use scripts to allow them to function and, seeing as you may well be removing a few of these, this will cause scripts to become permanently unattached in your existing saves, and will be possibly a nuisance, in the form of CTD or general gameplay dysfunction, later in your playthrough of that game save. If your are desperate to play an existing save that has remaining and unattached scripts, then I would hesitantly recommend using this mod:

 

"Fallrimtools - Script cleaner and more"

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/76776

 

This might be an excellent last resort if you wish to continue playing on an existing save with unattached instances of lingering scripts.

 

Always rebuild your bashed patched when you are satisfied with your mod list. Resist the urge to add/remove mods mid-playthrough. I recently removed a few mods (unscripted) from my load order and, when I returned to play on my existing save, I experienced CTD's where I otherwise wouldn't have. Like you, I have a ton of mods running, (350+ I think, maybe more) and a lot of the .esp's are merged together. My existing load-order was rock solid however, until I became reckless. Heavily modded Skyrim is, without a doubt, a house of cards: finicky, and best left untouched.

 

Good luck friend!

 

-B.L.

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