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Hi there. Been trying to fix this for a while now, to no avail unfortunately.

 

The main menu hud is missing. No text is visible but the ''boxes'' are there, they can be highlighted. The boxes are however sized wrong, these tiny and wide strips, completely messed up. I'm using Mod Organizer 2, archive invalidation is checked and MO's own ini is disabled. And yes, I've made the ini changes for DarnUI.

 

Here's my modlist. Note that It begins from the bottom. (I don't know why the file writes it like this)

+Merged Patch
+Weapon Animation Replacers
+WMX - WRP Patch v1.2.4
+Weapon Retexture Project v1.95
+Better Posture
+TroubleMakerOutfit T6M
+Power Armour Scaling with DLC
+Improved NCR Ranger Coat
+Improved HH Desert Ranger Coats
+T6M Old World Blues Conversions - Update
+T6M Old World Blues Conversions
+T6M Dead Money Conversions - Update
+T6M Dead Money Conversions
+T6M Misc Pack Conversions
+T6M Great Khan Conversions
+T6M Gambler Conversions
+T6M Power Armor Revamp
+T6M Female Power Armor Conversions
+T6M Combat Armor Conversions
+T6M Metal Armors Conversions
+T6M Equipment Replacer Conversions
+T6M Body Conversions
+Daughters of Ares
+Female Head Texture
+Mojave Delight
+Mikotos Beauty Pack
+Fallout Character Overhaul 3.0
+Breezes New Vegas Males DLC04 Fixes
+Breezes New Vegas Males DLC03 Fixes
+Breezes New Vegas Males DLC02 Fixes
+Breezes New Vegas Males Armour Fixes
+Breezes New Vegas Males Preorder Fixes
+Breezes New Vegas Males
+ShilohDS Colored Map
+Metal Armor Retextures - Black Edition
+Combat Armor Retextures
+Stealth Armor Retextures
+Enhanced Blood Textures
+NCR Trooper Overhaul - Sapper Fix
+NCR Trooper Overhaul
+PM's HD Legion Overhaul - 2K
+Hall Of Face
+Hall Of Equipment
+EVE - Essential Visual Enhancements
+MGs Clutter Retextures
+Wasteland Flora Overhaul v3.2b
+Texture Collection 2 (+Nevada Skies)
+Texture Collection 1
+Poco Bueno Texture Pack
+Ojo Bueno Texture Pack - HIGH
+Interior Lighting Overhaul
+ELECTRO-CITY v12A
+Deimos
+For The Enclave 4
+Autumn Leaves
+The Inheritance V1
+Someguy Series 2
+Pip-Boy Readius
+Cazador Companion V 1.17
+Populated Casinos
+New Vegas Trade Center
+Precision Collision FNV
+Collision Meshes FNV
+Unlimited Companions
+Delay DLC Combined
+CAGE 1.3.9.2
+Gun Follows Crosshairs
+Weapon Mod Wending Machine
+Reload Animation Fix v 1.0
+Automatic Weapons Fix v 1.1
+All Weapon Sounds Overhaul
+Weapons of the New Millenia v1.1a
+Weapon Mods Expanded - EVE Patch
+Weapon Mods Expanded - DLC
+Weapon Mods Expanded
+One HUD (oHUD) Darnified Patch
+CellHUD
+DarnUI v4
+One HUD (oHUD)
+Weapon Mod Menu
+UIO - User Interface Organizer
+Mod Configuration Menu
+Project Nevada - WMX Support
+Project Nevada - EVE Support
+Project Nevada - DLC Support
+Project Nevada
+YUP - Base Game and All DLC
*DLC: CaravanPack
*DLC: ClassicPack
*DLC: DeadMoney
*DLC: GunRunnersArsenal
*DLC: HonestHearts
*DLC: LonesomeRoad
*DLC: MercenaryPack
*DLC: OldWorldBlues
*DLC: TribalPack
I've been trying to rearrange the relevant mods in the modlist, haven't gotten anywhere. The load order itself is completely sorted by LOOT, which goes like this. (This begin's from the top.)
FalloutNV.esm
DeadMoney.esm
HonestHearts.esm
OldWorldBlues.esm
LonesomeRoad.esm
GunRunnersArsenal.esm
ClassicPack.esm
MercenaryPack.esm
TribalPack.esm
CaravanPack.esm
YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm
oHUD.esm
Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm
Vurt's WFO.esm
ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm
enclavebunker.esm
Project Nevada - Core.esm
FCOMaster.esm
Project Nevada - Equipment.esm
Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp
ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm
T6M Equipment Replacer NV.esm
Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp
D.E.I.M.O.S..esm
SomeguySeries.esm
Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esm
WMVM.esm
Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm
Daughters of Ares.esp
MikotoBeauty.esm
YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp
DarNifiedUINV.esp
FP gun follows crosshairs.esp
The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
Project Nevada - Gun Runners' Arsenal.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp
EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp
FCO - NPC Changes.esp
WeaponModsExpanded.esp
All Weapon Sounds Overhaul .esp
TheInheritance.esp
New Vegas Trade Center.esp
MojaveSandyDesert.esp
Cazador Companion.esp
Delay DLC - DM + HH + OWB + LR + GRA.esp
T6M Female Power Armor NV.esp
NCRTrooperOverhaul.esp
AutumnLeaves.esp
NukaCola-Ojo.esp
CAGE 1.9.3.2.esp
hz_1 by 1 Reload Fix.esp
hz_Automatic Weapons Fix.esp
populatedcasino.esp
Project Nevada - Dead Money.esp
Project Nevada - WMX.esp
Project Nevada - EVE All DLC.esp
Project Nevada - Honest Hearts.esp
Project Nevada - Lonesome Road.esp
WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp
WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp
WMX-DeadMoney.esp
WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp
Project Nevada - Old World Blues.esp
Readius_NV.esp
The Weapon Mod Menu.esp
UnlimitedCompanions.esp
WMX-HonestHearts.esp
Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Honest.Hearts.Grunt.Patch.esp
Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Leveled.Lists.esp
WMX-EVE-AllDLC.esp
boa ncrpahelmet.esp
T6M Combat Armor NV.esp
Boacombat2glove.esp
ILO - PipBoy Light.esp
ILO - YUP Patch.esp
MiscItemIconsNV.esp
Mojave Nights.esp
NevadaSkies.esp
bzArmour.esp
Daughters of Ares - CouriersStash.esp
FCO - GlowingOne.esp
FCO - OHSB NPC Edits.esp
MadCatT6MGeckoMetal.esp
MikotoBeauty.esp
MojaveDelight.esp
PowerArmorSize.esp
T6M Dead Money Armor.esp
T6M Lingerie NV.esp
T6M Old World Blues Replace.esp
TroubleMaker Armor.esp
WMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.esp
WMX-PreOrderPackClassic.esp
WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp
WMX-PreOrderPackTribal.esp
WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp
Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp
ILO - D.E.I.M.O.S.esp
ILO - GS Shack.esp
Merged Patch.esp
Any help is appreciated.
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It has to do with the sequence in which you install your various plugins that affect XML files (such as oHUD and WMM as well as DarnUI): the "install order". Please see the wiki "HUD-UI-Menu issues" article.

 

-Dubious-

 

Dubious himself.

 

I've been on that page before and I'm not sure if I fully understand whats being written there. What suprises me is that this was never a problem before. I've had plenty of FNV installs before and they all worked just fine without any special hassle with hud mods.

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I'm always open to trying to make things clearer. Unfortunately, I try to do that from the start, so I need feedback as to what remains confusing. (That was the very first Wiki article I wrote for FNV, so there were many things I still had to learn at the time.)

 

In general, the problem arises from different plugins replacing an XML file used by more than one. Which, like with normal plugins, means the "Rule of One" is in effect. And we don't have a mechanism to reconcile "record level conflicts" except by manually editing the XML file in question or changing the "install order" sequence.

 

With DarnUI in particular, it is so popular but also changes the font size and placement that many plugins with XML files need to detect it has been installed earlier so they can adjust for it (or not). The result is that DarnUI needs to be installed early, and then ensure that certain changes "win". That is what the "Last XML Override Files mods" section is about. If you don't read the earlier "details", then the summary probably won't make much sense unless you already have the understanding it attempts to convey.

 

However, only the most popular HUD mods are covered in detail. For others, you have to extrapolate based upon the concepts.

 

It all depends upon the particular plugins which are installing or replacing XML files.

 

-Dubious-

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I'm always open to trying to make things clearer. Unfortunately, I try to do that from the start, so I need feedback as to what remains confusing. (That was the very first Wiki article I wrote for FNV, so there were many things I still had to learn at the time.)

 

In general, the problem arises from different plugins replacing an XML file used by more than one. Which, like with normal plugins, means the "Rule of One" is in effect. And we don't have a mechanism to reconcile "record level conflicts" except by manually editing the XML file in question or changing the "install order" sequence.

 

With DarnUI in particular, it is so popular but also changes the font size and placement that many plugins with XML files need to detect it has been installed earlier so they can adjust for it (or not). The result is that DarnUI needs to be installed early, and then ensure that certain changes "win". That is what the "Last XML Override Files mods" section is about. If you don't read the earlier "details", then the summary probably won't make much sense unless you already have the understanding it attempts to convey.

 

However, only the most popular HUD mods are covered in detail. For others, you have to extrapolate based upon the concepts.

 

It all depends upon the particular plugins which are installing or replacing XML files.

 

-Dubious-

 

You wrote that page? Impressive.

 

And to clarify, there's nothing wrong with your writing, I'm just having a difficulty wrapping my head around this xml conflict because this never happened before with previous installs. I wonder why it's an issue now. Ah well, I'll just have to figure this out with the information provided. Thanks.

 

Edit: I removed all hud_main_menu.xml files from mods yet the menu text is still invisible. I don't understand.

Edit: Removed all hud mods expect Weapon Mod Menu, Mod Configuration Menu and Project Nevada. Vanilla worked fine though, so no problems with game installation.

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