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[RareMagi]

Just wanted to thank you all for your hard work ! And has made my modding experience so much easier

[WillTDP]

This is very cool, but will there be an option to turn mods and plugin grouping off? I like it more like how it's now

[Pickysaurus]

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WillTDP wrote: This is very cool, but will there be an option to turn mods and plugin grouping off? I like it more like how it's now

Yes, it is toggleable. By default it is disabled :)

[Pickysaurus]

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Veratai wrote: hm.. this is cool :3 although.. wonder if vortex could be able to install some things like script extender, that's directly from the game folder. that way the silverlight guys and us would have an even easier time with those, in both packaging and installing. + it would warn when some other mod is trying to replace something from said script extender

well, not that just copying/pasting is hard, but still, it would be nifty xD

You can install the script extenders with Vortex, it just requires a little manual work afterwards as the archive is structured in a way that won't work "out of the box".

[Veratai]

In response to post #75206993. #75212458 is also a reply to the same post.

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Veratai wrote: hm.. this is cool :3 although.. wonder if vortex could be able to install some things like script extender, that's directly from the game folder. that way the silverlight guys and us would have an even easier time with those, in both packaging and installing. + it would warn when some other mod is trying to replace something from said script extender

well, not that just copying/pasting is hard, but still, it would be nifty xD

Pickysaurus wrote: You can install the script extenders with Vortex, it just requires a little manual work afterwards as the archive is structured in a way that won't work "out of the box".

well that's the idea, that it doesn't need manual work xD not super-important tho xD

[FireOogle]

Don't like the fact it shows games i haven't downloaded support for in the games window. I disable the plugins for every game i don't own, now it looks like i have to install plugins for games i will never buy just to disable them.

Edited by FireOogle, 27 November 2019 - 07:19 PM.

[WillTDP]

In response to post #75212058. #75212328 is also a reply to the same post.

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WillTDP wrote: This is very cool, but will there be an option to turn mods and plugin grouping off? I like it more like how it's now

Pickysaurus wrote: Yes, it is toggleable. By default it is disabled :)

nice

[FireOogle]

In response to post #75207123. #75207553, #75208618, #75209013, #75209178, #75209343 are all replies on the same post.

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Rooker75 wrote: I see it's still missing the basic drag & drop load order functionality expected of any serious mod management software in favor of ego-based "I know better than you" auto-sorting that's tedious to override. One of these days, you will need to learn how to put that ego aside and acknowledge that maybe we know our mod loadouts better than you do.

lonewanderer345 wrote: +1
That's the only reason i stopped using Vortex after giving it a trial run.
Loot doesn't do as good a job of sorting as you can do manually...so while I feel it is okay to have it available as an option for 'beginners' or those who feel 'lost' without it, for Vortex to appeal to more experienced mod users....as the option to build rules and priorities was just way too clunky and gave uncertain results. NMM is still superior in this aspect.

TheBottomhoodofSteel wrote: someone woke up entitled...

AugustaCalidia wrote: "Let me guess. Someone stole your sweetroll."

AlanPaul wrote: I clicked the link as soon as I saw the notification fully hoping and believing that this must be finally added.

Can't believe...

Pickysaurus wrote: Let's not turn this into that old argument - it has been done to death at this point. If you like to spend your time arranging your plugins in an exact order, that's your choice. Vortex uses LOOT and your custom groups/rules to build a working load order with far less effort. If you'd like to know more about the Vortex approach, BigBizkit wrote a very concise article about it.

I think it's more about trusting that the community knowledge from LOOT is often greater than one person's idea of a good load order. Every entry in the LOOT masterlist was contributed or updated by modders like you and me, so it's based on the collective experience of hundreds - if not thousands - of users. That said if you can find a combination of plugins Vortex sorts "wrong" every time and can provide steps to reproduce it, please create a thread over on the Vortex forums so we can look into it.

If it's your personal preference to do it your way, that is absolutely fine, just please respect that others have a different opinion to you about it.

The question is more why there isn't an option to turn off the auto sorting really

I know if i want to add a master file to another file in vortex, i have to set up a rule to make sure it loads after the other file, to add the master to delete the rule. This is hardly easier than old system of dragging the file to bottom of load order then adding it.

The rules system is very messy, since it shows rules for all games at once, which makes things very confusing, especially if you use the same mod in more than one game and they have same esp name.

[Tannin42]

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FireOogle wrote: Don't like the fact it shows games i haven't downloaded support for in the games window. I disable the plugins for every game i don't own, now it looks like i have to install plugins for games i will never buy just to disable them.

You can hide games, just click on the little + icon and then "Hide"

[Gunst]

Vortex has worked absolutely flawless for me, modding Witcher3, Fallout4, New Vegas & SSE. Thank you so much for all the hard work!