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Hello all,

 

I have been modding my skyrim for the last week or two and I have got quite a few mods. Yes I use MO2, LOOT, and xEdit to check for all bugs, etc. I have also read mod descriptions.

 

Before I post my mod order and ask for help here are my current problems:

 

Missing faces on certain NPC females like Carlotta and the lady who runs the Inn in whiterun. I cannot get them to work. I have installed Bjin All in One and Wives, NPCS, etc. I even turned off PANNPCS to see if it works and tried running Bjinn in xEdit but cannot find any fixes.

 

My game also crashes everytime I enter Dragonsreach and I have no idea what mod causes that.

 

Here is my mod order from MO2 since LOOT just shows plugins

 

any help would be much appreciated because this is so frustrating

 

#Mod_Priority,#Mod_Status,#Mod_Name

"0001","+","DLC: HearthFires"

"0002","+","DLC: Dragonborn"

"0003","+","DLC: Dawnguard"

"0004","+","Cleaned Masters"

"0006","+","Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch"

"0007","+","SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin)"

"0008","+","SKSE64 DATA"

"0009","+","Mfg Fix"

"0010","+","Weapons Armor Clothing and Clutter Fixes"

"0011","+","JContainers SE"

"0013","+","PapyrusUtil SE - Modders Scripting Utility Functions"

"0015","+","Bruma Signs SMIM patch - SE"

"0016","+","Beyond Skyrim - Bruma - Tweaks Enhancements and Patches SSE"

"0017","+","Beyond Skyrim - Bruma Moonpath to Elsweyr Synergy Patch"

"0018","+","QUASIPC - Qwinn's Unified Automated Self Installing Patch Compendium"

"0019","+","Skyrim Immersive Creatures - Official Patch and Patch Central"

"0020","+","Falskaar - Addons and Patches"

"0021","+","Legacy of the Dragonborn Patches (Official)"

"0022","+","RS Children Patch Compendium"

"0023","+","kryptopyr's Automated Patches"

"0024","+","CACO - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch"

"0025","+","Ordinator Beyond Skyrim Patch"

"0026","+","Immersive Weapons Patches SE"

"0028","+","SkyUI"

"0029","+","A Quality World Map"

"0030","+","Better Dialogue Controls"

"0031","+","Lore-Based Loading Screens"

"0032","+","Unread Books Glow SSE"

"0033","+","RaceMenu"

"0034","+","Better MessageBox Controls"

"0035","+","Sovngarde - Mist's Font Replacer"

"0036","+","moreHUD SE"

"0038","+","Static Mesh Improvement Mod"

"0040","+","LeanWolf's Better-Shaped Weapons SE"

"0041","+","Blended Roads"

"0042","+","PELTAPALOOZA - Special Edition"

"0043","+","RUGNAROK - Special Edition"

"0044","+","Designs of the Nords"

"0045","+","Giant.by.Kajuan"

"0046","+","Meridia Revoiced SE"

"0047","+","Majestic Mountains - Darkside"

"0048","+","Zim's Immersive Artifacts V1.5"

"0049","+","Hvergelmir's Aesthetics - Beards"

"0050","+","Draugr.by.Kajuan"

"0051","+","Skeleton.and.Human.Bones.by.Kajuan"

"0052","+","Frankly HD Dawnguard Armor and Weapons"

"0053","+","Ultimate HD Fire Effects SSE"

"0054","+","Troll.by.Kajuan"

"0055","+","Dragon.Priest.by.Kajuan"

"0056","+","Stunning Statues of Skyrim"

"0057","+","Frankly HD Imperial Armor and Weapons"

"0058","+","CC's HD Dwemer Automatons - Remastered"

"0059","+","Smooth Sky mesh - SSE"

"0060","+","Ruins Clutter Improved"

"0062","+","OSex"

"0063","+","NPC's Run and Walk at Your Pace"

"0064","+","Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE - FNIS SE"

"0065","+","XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended"

"0066","+","Point The Way"

"0067","+","Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim"

"0068","+","Wet and Cold SE"

"0069","+","Immersive Patrols SE"

"0071","+","Lanterns Of Skyrim II"

"0073","+","Moonpath to Elsweyr SSE"

"0074","+","Beyond Skyrim - Bruma SE"

"0075","+","The Paarthurnax Dilemma"

"0076","+","Immersive World Encounters SE"

"0077","+","The Choice is Yours"

"0078","+","Falskaar"

"0079","+","Dark Forest of Skyrim SE - Wyrmstooth"

"0080","+","Wyrmstooth"

"0081","+","The Forgotten City"

"0082","+","Phenderix Magic World"

"0083","+","Helgen Reborn"

"0084","+","Legacy of the Dragonborn SSE"

"0085","+","2_Beyond Skyrim DLC Integration Patch"

"0087","+","Immersive College of Winterhold"

"0088","+","Hearthfire multiple adoptions - Now with custom home support for kids and spouse"

"0090","+","Archery Gameplay Overhaul SE"

"0091","+","Growl - Werebeasts of Skyrim"

"0092","+","Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim"

"0094","+","Alternate Start - Live Another Life - SSE"

"0095","+","Run For Your Lives"

"0097","+","Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim"

"0098","+","Cutting Room Floor - SSE"

"0099","+","Stones of Barenziah Quest Markers"

"0100","+","SABRECAT.by.Kajuan"

"0102","+","Dawnguard Arsenal SSE"

"0103","+","Armor and Clothing Extension"

"0104","+","Skyrim SE Expanded Skyrim Weaponry"

"0105","+","Immersive Armors"

"0106","+","Cloaks of Skyrim SSE"

"0107","+","Immersive Weapons"

"0108","+","RUSTIC CLOTHING - Special Edition"

"0110","+","Falmer.by.Kajuan"

"0111","+","Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition"

"0112","+","Immersive Dragons"

"0113","+","Serana Dialogue Edit - Skyrim Special Edition"

"0114","+","RS Children Overhaul"

"0115","+","Diverse Dragons Collection SE (DDCse)"

"0116","+","Convenient Horses"

"0119","+","RUSTIC DAEDRA - Special Edition"

"0121","+","JK's Skyrim"

"0122","+","Realistic Water Two"

"0123","+","Winterhold Restored"

"0126","+","Sofia - The Funny Fully Voiced Follower"

"0127","+","Vilja in Skyrim"

"0128","+","INIGO"

"0129","+","Yennefer of Vengerberg - The Witcher 3 Voiced Standalone Follower SE"

"0131","+","FleshFX"

"0133","+","Footprints"

"0135","+","Enhanced Blood Textures"

"0136","+","Arcanum - A New Age of Magic"

"0140","+","Complete Alchemy and Cooking Overhaul"

"0141","+","Thunderchild - Epic Shouts and Immersion"

"0142","+","Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim"

"0143","+","Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim"

"0145","+","Imperious - Races of Skyrim"

"0146","+","Rich Skyrim Merchants"

"0147","+","Ultimate Combat SE"

"0148","+","VioLens - A Killmove Mod SE"

"0149","+","Ars Metallica - Smithing Enhancement"

"0150","+","Sneak Tools SE Edition"

"0152","+","Immersive Sounds - Compendium"

"0153","+","Smilodon - Combat of Skyrim"

"0155","+","Lightweight Potions and Poisons for SSE (multiple Languages)"

"0156","+","Dwemer Dogs Companions SE"

"0157","+","Invested Magic - A Better Magic Paradigm Remade (Again)"

"0158","+","Skyland - A Landscape Texture Overhaul"

"0159","+","New Armored Horses SE"

"0160","+","Serana Dialogue Add-On"

"0161","+","Amazing Follower Tweaks SE"

"0162","+","Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice"

"0163","+","The People Of Skyrim Complete SSE"

"0165","+","Celtic Music in Skyrim - SE"

"0166","+","MorrowLoot Ultimate"

"0167","+","Dolomite Weathers - Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics II"

"0168","+","IMAGINATOR - Visual Control Device for Skyrim"

"0169","+","Enhanced Lighting for ENB (ELE) - Special Edition"

"0170","+","Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin"

"0171","+","KS Hairdos SSE"

"0172","+","Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods"

"0173","+","Whiterun Forest Borealis"

"0174","+","Terrain LOD redone"

"0176","+","Seranaholic by rxkx22 - Ported to SSE by bchick3 and elrizzo"

"0177","+","AI Overhaul SSE"

"0180","+","Bijin All in One 2019"

"0181","+","Interesting NPCs SE"

"0182","+","Total Character Makeover"

"0183","+","Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE-"

"0184","+","The Eyes of Beauty - Vampire Eyes SE"

"0185","+","Eye Normal Map Fix SSE"

"0186","+","The Eyes Of Beauty SSE"

"0187","+","Botox for Skyrim"

"0188","+","Combat Evolved"

"0189","+","iNeed - Food, Water and Sleep"

"0190","+","Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul"

"0191","+","Bijin NPCs SE"

"0192","+","Bijin Skin - CBBE"

"0193","+","Bijin Warmaidens SE"

"0194","+","Bijin Wives SE"

"0196","+","Unofficial Moonpath to Elsweyr Patch"

"0198","+","Bijin Family - Salt and Wind Textures SE"

 

 

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Are you sure you sorted your mods with LOOT? The reason for which I ask is that Legacy is don't in the 80s in your load order and The Legacy of the dragon born patches official is #21 Now Legacy being should be much higher in the load order And it should be above the LOTDB Patches as well. Patches IIRC should always be below the main file. Also when sorting your mods you left pane should match the right pane as closely as possible which would mean going through the down the right pane and moving mods in the left pane to closely match. You may have to run loot and move the mods in the left pane several times to get them all set.

 

Once that is all said and done check the mods pages and see what they recommend where their mod should be loaded

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I have fixed my problems with Bjin mods. My only problem now is there is a mod causing my game to crash upon entering Dragonsreach. Mod order ftom LOOT below

I thought it was Realistic Water 2 but that did not fix it

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 RSkyrimChildren.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
7 7 BSAssets.esm
8 8 BSHeartland.esm
9 9 BS_DLC_patch.esp
10 a 3DNPC.esp
11 b LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
12 c Lanterns Of Skyrim II.esm
13 d Falskaar.esm
14 e Wyrmstooth.esp
15 f TerrainLodRedone.esp
16 10 Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp
SMIM-SE-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
17 11 SkyUI_SE.esp
18 12 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
19 13 Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
20 14 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
21 15 Cutting Room Floor.esp
22 16 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
23 17 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
24 18 WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp
25 19 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
26 1a Dolomite Weathers.esp
27 1b iNeed.esp
28 1c IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
29 1d 20 More Perk Points.esp
30 1e RaceMenu.esp
31 1f RaceMenuPlugin.esp
32 20 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
33 21 CBBE.esp
34 22 Footprints.esp
35 23 UnreadBooksGlow.esp
36 24 BetterShapedWeaponsLW-XB.esp
37 25 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp
38 26 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x2.esp
39 27 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.esp
40 28 BlendedRoads.esp
41 29 DFOS_Wyrmstooth.esp
42 2a Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
43 2b HearthfireMultiKid.esp
44 2c HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
254 FE 0 MeridiaRevoiced.esp
45 2d Runandwalkpaces.esp
46 2e Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
47 2f tpos_ultimate_esm.esp
48 30 JKs Skyrim.esp
49 31 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
50 32 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
51 33 Whiterun Forest Borealis Lightweight.esp
52 34 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
53 35 AI Overhaul.esp
54 36 Serana Dialogue Edit.esp
55 37 Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp
56 38 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
57 39 Point The Way.esp
58 3a EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
59 3b moonpath.esp
Qw_WICO_AIOverhaul_CRF Patch.esp
60 3c JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp
61 3d MajesticMountains.esp
62 3e Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp
63 3f TheChoiceIsYours.esp
64 40 Immersive Encounters.esp
65 41 Growl - Werebeasts of Skyrim.esp
66 42 Run For Your Lives.esp
Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp
Qw_ACE_BSHeartland Patch.esp
Qw_WACCF_BSHeartland Patch.esp
254 FE 1 BSHeartland - Unofficial Patch.esp
67 43 Inigo.esp
68 44 Combat Evolved.esp
69 45 UltimateCombat.esp
70 46 Magicka Invested.esp
Qw_ISC_CRF Patch.esp
254 FE 2 FleshFX.esp
71 47 Immersive Weapons.esp
72 48 Smilodon - Combat of Skyrim.esp
73 49 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
Qw_WICO_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_WICO_USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_WICO_AIOverhaul Patch.esp
Qw_Diversity_AIOverhaul_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_Diversity_AIOverhaul Patch.esp
Qw_3DNPC_USSEP Patch.esp
74 4a Immersive Patrols II.esp
75 4b Levionte_Yennefer.esp
76 4c Bijin_AIO 2018.esp
77 4d DawnguardArsenal.esp
78 4e Ars Metallica.esp
79 4f Landscape For Grass Mods JK'S Skyrim.esp
80 50 SofiaFollower.esp
254 FE 3 Whiterun Forest Borealis - TPOS Complete Patch.esp
81 51 Arcanum.esp
CFTO-JK-Patch.esp
254 FE 4 DBM_JKSkyrim_Patch.esp
82 52 Convenient Horses.esp
83 53 ForgottenCity.esp
84 54 Lightweight Potions.esp
85 55 Phenderix Magic World.esp
86 56 Sneak Tools.esp
87 57 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
88 58 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
Qw_S3DTrees_CRF Patch.esp
89 59 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
Qw_S3DLandscapes_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_SofiaFollower_USSEP Patch.esp
JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp
90 5a DweDog.esp
254 FE 5 JKs Skyrim_Thunderchild_Patch.esp
91 5b Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
92 5c WetandCold.esp
93 5d SMIM-Bruma-Patch.esp
RSC Falskaar Patch.esp
Falskaar - SkyTEST and Bruma Patch.esp
JRMoonpathBrumaPatch.esp
254 FE 6 DGA-ArsMSE CompatPatch.esp
94 5e LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp
95 5f FNIS.esp
96 60 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
Qw_RealisticFaces_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_RealisticFaces_USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_PANNPCs_AIOverhaul_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_Diversity_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_DPOSMenOnly_AIOverhaul Patch.esp
Qw_TheOrdinaryWomen_AIOverhaul_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_PANNPCs_AIOverhaul Patch.esp
Qw_TheOrdinaryWomen_AIOverhaul Patch.esp
97 61 NewArmHorse.esp
98 62 SeranaDialogAddon.esp
99 63 AHZmoreHUD.esp
100 64 Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_SE.esp
101 65 IMAGINATOR SSE - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp
102 66 KS Hairdo's.esp
Qw_3DNPC_TheOrdinaryWomen Patch.esp
Qw_WACCF_AOS Patch.esp
Qw_ACE_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_BeyondReach_USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_Luminosity_ImmersiveCitizens Patch.esp
Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_WACCF_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_ACE_CloaksOfSkyrim Patch.esp
Qw_ACE_CloaksAndCapes Patch.esp
Qw_ACE_SkyrimImmersiveCreatures Patch.esp
Qw_AIO_FacegenForKids Patch.esp
Qw_AIOverhaul_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_ArsMetallica_FloraRespawnFix Patch.esp
Qw_ArsMetallica_SMIM_MergedAll Patch.esp
Qw_ArsMetallica_SMIM_MergedNoRopes Patch.esp
Qw_BarenziahQuestMarkers_USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_BeyondReach_RDO Patch.esp
Qw_BookCoversSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_BookCoversSkyrim_USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_CloaksAndCapes_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_CloaksAndCapes_USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_ConsistentOlderPeople_AIOverhaul Patch.esp
Qw_DeadlySpellImpacts_AOS Patch.esp
Qw_DeadlySpellImpacts_ISC Patch.esp
Qw_Diversity_3DNPC Patch.esp
Qw_DucksAndSwans_USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_GirlHeavyArmor_USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_GirlHeavyArmorStandalone_USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_ISC_USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_Luminosity_CastleVolkihar Patch.esp
Qw_RelightingSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_Luminosity_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_PANNPCs_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_PANNPCsDG_AIOverhaul Patch.esp
Qw_RSChildren_AIOverhaul Patch.esp
Qw_RusticSoulgemsSorted_ISC Patch.esp
Qw_RusticSoulgemsUnsorted_ISC Patch.esp
Qw_S3DLandscapes_USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_S3DTrees_FRFix_HarvestORPlants Patch.esp
Qw_Skyrim3DTrees_FloraRespawnFix Patch.esp
Qw_SkyrimSizesLore_USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_SofiaFollower_GDO Patch.esp
Qw_SofiaFollower_RDO Patch.esp
Qw_TheOrdinaryWomen_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_WACCF_arnima Patch.esp
Qw_WACCF_CloaksOfSkyrim Patch.esp
Qw_WACCF_ISC Patch.esp
Qw_WACCF_LSCrossbows Patch.esp
Qw_WACCF_OpenFaceGuardHelmets Patch.esp
Qw_WACCF_OpenFaceGuardHelmetsSE Patch.esp
Qw_WACCF_RSChildren Patch.esp
Qw_WACCF_TMBVAC Patch.esp
Qw_WICO_3DNPC Patch.esp
RSC 3DNPC Patch.esp
RSC_USSEP_AventusFix.esp
SIC - ICH Patch.esp
SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
103 67 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
104 68 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Qw_Luminosity_RW2 Patch.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
Qw_RealisticFaces_AIOverhaul Patch.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
Qw_BijinAIO_AIOverhaul Patch.esp
IW_Bijin_Patch.esp
Qw_AelaStandalone_AIOverhaul Patch.esp
Qw_AelaStandalone_USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_Diversity_USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_BijinAIO_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_BijinAIO_USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_DPOSMenOnly_CRF_MissingHairs Patch.esp
Qw_DPOSMenOnly_USSEP_MissingHairs Patch.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
105 69 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
Qw_Imperious_SkyrimSizesLore Patch.esp
106 6a MLU.esp
107 6b CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
108 6c Helgen Reborn.esp
109 6d Winterhold Restored.esp
Landscape For Grass mods - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp
Qw_Diversity_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp
Qw_DPOSMenOnly_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp
Qw_RealisticFaces_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp
Qw_BijinAIO_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp
Qw_Luminosity_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp
Qw_PANNPCs_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp
Qw_TheOrdinaryWomen_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp
110 6e Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
CACO_Survival Mode_Patch.esp
AwesomePotions_CACO_Patch.esp
CACO ethereal_elven_overhaul Patch.esp
254 FE 7 CACO_Beyond Skyrim Bruma_Patch.esp
CACO Rare Curios Patch.esp
CACO_BeyondSkyrimWoT_Patch.esp
CACO_Falskaar_Patch.esp
254 FE 8 CACO_SkyrimImmersiveCreaturesSE_Patch.esp
PatronGodsOfSkyrim_CACO_Patch.esp
CACO_SPERG_Patch.esp
Qw_CACO_3DNPC Patch.esp
254 FE 9 CACO_Wyrmstooth_Patch.esp
CACO_Moonpath_Patch.esp
CACO_GrayCowl_Patch.esp
254 FE a CACO_Growl_Patch.esp
Qw_CACO_BookCoversSkyrim Patch.esp
CACO_Wounds_Patch.esp
Predator Vision_CACO_Patch.esp
CACO_Improved Fire Salts Frost Salts and Glow Dust Patch.esp
SkyrimIsWindy_CACO_Patch.esp
CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp
ElysiumEstate_CACO_Patch.esp
254 FE b Inigo_CACO_Patch.esp
SkyfallEstate_CACO_Patch.esp
Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul_CCOR_Patch.esp
Qw_CACO_AOS Patch.esp
Qw_CACO_ArsMetallica Patch.esp
Qw_CACO_RDO Patch.esp
Qw_CACO_S3DTrees Patch.esp
111 6f Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
112 70 Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
113 71 Invested Magick Ordinator Patch.esp
Qw_Ordinator_AOS Patch.esp
114 72 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
115 73 Invested Magick Sacrosanct Patch.esp
116 74 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
117 75 ELE_SSE.esp
118 76 ELE_SSE_BSBr.esp
254 FE c ELE_SSE_CRF.esp
254 FE d ELE_SSE_Falskaar.esp
254 FE e ELE_SSE_HR.esp
ELE_SSE_LoS.esp
254 FE f ELE_SSE_LotD.esp
119 77 RAO - ELE - Alternate Start Patch.esp
Qw_ELE_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_ELE_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp
Qw_ELE_RW2 Patch.esp
WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp
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Troubleshooting such a monster of a loadorder is always extremely difficult. Basic Rule: Build up your load order step by step (only a few mods at a time) and test, test test... Otherwise you'll end up with something that's more or less impossible to sort out.

 

To get a strating point, I'd check your patches. You got an incredible number of patches. IMHO this is a clear sign of "too much, too complicated" in general. A good and "safe" loadorder shouldn't need a gazillion of patches. Maybe this is also the source of some of your problems. If I didn't overlook something, you got patches installed for mods you don't even have. Check e.g. "The Ordinary Women" and "Diversity". I couldn't find those two mods in your load order - but you have patches for them. Unneccessary patches can cause all sorts of oddities - including CTDs.

 

As I said: Troubleshooting is very hard here. But I'd start with that incredible amount of patches.

 

EDIT: IMHO, you also need a "bashed patch" (think of it as an automated coflict resolution patch) created with Wrye Bash. It's practically a must with large load orders.

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I am new to modding too. My learning has spanned over the last few weeks though so maybe I can help some. First, I have to agree with Algabar on the patches. I have seen the Qw_ patches are usually from Quinn's patches and comes with a FOMOD for installation. Any time I have used it only detected mods allow the patches to be chosen, I thought. So I am not sure how you got so many without the mods being available.

 

Second, and according to Quinn which I am following, the placement of his patches are all wrong according to his tips tutorial. On the QUASIPC mod page Quinn has a link to his tips on mod and patch placement that outlines info for his patches in load order. I started my adventure using Vortex so this is much harder to accomplish, with patch placement. Either or, Quinn's tips helped me a lot with the LO. As I am still putting together my mods for a play I have only tested it, but everything is very stable for me and because of Vortex I can only get the patches placed "close" after the affecting mod and not right after as is suggested.

 

Third, I think you maybe choosing "all" the options when a FOMOD allows you too. As an example I too use the mod Rich Merchants. When the FOMOD runs you are to choose the option for the merchants to have x2, x5, or x10 gold available. My assumption was I was to only choose one or it would seem to me they would conflict as the choice governs it for every merchant. By the looks of your LO you have all three choices made. In my LO I only see the single choice I made but maybe I am not correct and one can select all three. Maybe someone more experienced will reply on this.

 

Really check out Quinn's tips on the QUASIPC mod page. He talks about what will cause the CTD's and black face bug too. My only disappointment with the write up was after he covers the tips he says to just follow one's favorite LO guide. I have yet to find one and wish he included his own. Good luck and hope this helps -Indiao

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