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opinionateddrone

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Please HELP!  I'm pulling my hair out!

 

Where to begin?

 

I'm experiencing full system lockup at random times while playing Skyrim.  I've found a two reliable ways to trigger the Full System Hang:  fiddling with RaceMenu options, or just running around the worldspace (or indoors) and spinning the camera.  The crash happens within about 20 minutes of gameplay regardless of if I am actively trying to trigger it or just playing normally.  But the game will run forever on the pause menu, no problem (tested it by leaving it alone for 2 hours while I ran some errands).

 

I first noticed the issue after updating my graphics card driver to be able to play Call of Duty Modern Warfare.  I looked up how to disable any graphic overlays my driver software was applying, I disabled my weaker graphics card via the BIOS, and tried just about every guide i could find related to speed, stability and optimization, ini tweaks, etc for skyrim and am still experiencing the same issue.

 

Steam and Skyrim are installed in a folder I created [ C:\Program Files (Games)\ ] so there are no problems with permissions.

I've installed the latest versions of SKSE and ENB manually, and use MO2 for my mods.

I am using Mod Organizer 2, BethINI, ENB Reshade Manager, LOOT, TES5Edit (Quick AutoClean) and Ordenador.

All Plugins sorted with LOOT, dirty ones cleaned with TES5Edit QAC

 

 

I am 99.9% sure that the problem lies with my ENB settings. 

 

The reason I believe this is because I ran Skyrim through the Skyrim Launcher (without Mod Organizer - so without any modifications besides TES5Edit Cleaning and ENB - and it hangs the system.  But with [UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true ] I am stable for at least an hour that I tested for.

I have tried enabling Papyrus Logging, but with a Full System Hang the log just kind of ends without any indication of what may be causing problems.

I figure if we can get Vanilla Skyrim working with ENB, I can worry about my modded profile in MO2 later

 

So here's my PC's specs:

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Here are my INI files for Vanilla Skyrim (running without MO2)

enblocal.ini

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skyrim.ini

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skyrimprefs.ini

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skse.ini

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Edit: Cleaned up formatting and used spoiler code to make things neater


Edited by opinionateddrone, 09 April 2020 - 04:43 AM.


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If it worked fine before updating the graphics driver, try rolling it back.  Sometimes driver updates do more harm than good.  I know they say to always update your drivers and such.  But keep in mind you are on Win 7 and it is no longer supported.  Many companies may start dropping support or not optimizing for Win 7 any longer.

 

EDIT:  Still something to keep in mind...  But amidst all the non-spoiler quotes / code boxes I finally saw where you stated that it was stable without the ENB settings.  It would be the ENB then.  They are notorious for tanking one's ability to play the game.  Best used for screenshots rather than normal play for most users.  I couldn't even use them for screenshots as my performance tanked so much I could barely do anything in the game.


Edited by IsharaMeradin, 09 April 2020 - 03:30 AM.


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If it worked fine before updating the graphics driver, try rolling it back.  Sometimes driver updates do more harm than good.  I know they say to always update your drivers and such.  But keep in mind you are on Win 7 and it is no longer supported.  Many companies may start dropping support or not optimizing for Win 7 any longer.

 

EDIT:  Still something to keep in mind...  But amidst all the non-spoiler quotes / code boxes I finally saw where you stated that it was stable without the ENB settings.  It would be the ENB then.  They are notorious for tanking one's ability to play the game.  Best used for screenshots rather than normal play for most users.  I couldn't even use them for screenshots as my performance tanked so much I could barely do anything in the game.

 

I've updated my graphics card to the latest drivers a second time a few days after updating for Modern Warfare, unfortunately I can't seem to find older versions of the driver for my card because AMD's website just has you download their one size fits all downloader-installer.

I'm hesitant to use the "rollback" feature in Device Manager because the driver software is also a different version, so I'd rather uninstall the software & drivers in place now and clean install the older ones, if they can be found?

 

Sorry about all the non-spoiler quotes, I couldn't figure out how to use the spoiler quotes, I don't see an option for it on the formatting menu.  I've edited my previous post so that all of my comments are on top with all of the quotes at the end without any other text between them, hopefully that makes it easier to read.

 

 

It would be the ENB then.  They are notorious for tanking one's ability to play the game.  Best used for screenshots rather than normal play for most users.

 

Excuse me?  I did not spend over $100 on a 8GB Graphics card to NOT use ENB for normal gameplay.  I know it works on this card, I've had it working in the past.  I'm looking for help to get it working as at this point Skyrim is UNPLAYABLE without ENB modifications as far as I'm concerned.



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You may wish to take a look at this page as it explains each entry in the ENBlocal.ini and the recommended settings under certain scenarios. Who knows maybe something there might help.

https://wiki.step-pr...de:ENBlocal_INI

 

Wish you the best of luck in getting this resolved.



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Thank you, I appreciate your efforts.

I have looked through the STEP Wiki page for enblocal.ini pretty thoroughly.  My biggest take-away from that is to set [ DisableDriverMemoryManager=true ] because this option was made specifically for AMD graphics cards.

 

I have tried a few things since reading the STEP Wiki page before posting here

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Current settings for "Memory and Threads" enblocal.ini

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Edited by opinionateddrone, 09 April 2020 - 06:32 AM.


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Update:  I was wrong about the video card driver's installer - I was able to find the previous version of the driver and downgraded to it as a clean install, then went in and disabled as many of the tweaks and graphical overlays I could find in the Radeon Adrenaline software.

My currently installed version of the driver is the Dec 12, 2019 version.  The newest version (which I just downgraded from) was released April 2, 2020.

 

I also tried some settings from ENBoost 6.0

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Unfortunately none of this fixed the issue and I crashed after about 10 minutes of testing.

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Well, I cleaned out my PC with alcohol and air duster (definitely needed it).  Unfortunately I fried my BIOS when I put everything back together, waiting on repair/replacement.  So I guess this thread is on hold until further notice.







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