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I set up my load order by following a feed on bethesda.net.  I used it as my framework and then added the mods of my choosing, but my game keeps crashing back to home when entering walled cities otherwise it works well(3+ hours before first crash) it seems that Windhelm and Whiterun are the main sources of the problem upon trying to enter the gate my game crashes during loading screen.  I even tried both gates for windhelm. It loaded once but crashed immediately after I took one step.

Current Load Order:

Unofficial Skyrim patch
Campfire
Climates of Tamriel
Racecompatibility
Half orc race
The dwarves: race mod
Half elf- new playable race
Snow elves
Guard dialogue overhaul
Character creation overhaul
CCO - diverse races and genders
Ordinator
50 pct more perk points
Perk points and more gold for bounties
Summermyst - enchantments of Skyrim
Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim
Skyrim reputation.
Archery tweaks Plus
Quest debugger
Even better Quest objectives
Stones of Barenziah Quest markers
The Paarthurnax dilemma
Boethiah's bidding
Open Civil War
Improved companions questline
Less tedious Thieves Guild
Goldenglow is yours
Saadia - time of need
Recover cities - quick
Clockwork
The Forgotten City
Undeath remastered
Moon and star
Paint the way
Lamppost of Skyrim
Hearthfire Carriage destinations
Skaal Manor
Darkwater Crossing
Immersive hold borders
Man those borders
H.A.S.T.E.
Sacrosanct: Vampires of Skyrim
Growl: Werebeasts of Skyrim
Relationship dialogue overhaul
Immersive Hunter dialogue
Wet and cold
Frostfall
YOT: your own thoughts for frostfall
Adopt aventus aretino
Adopt helgi ghost
Aetherium armor and weapons
Cloaks and capes
Sithis armor
Ennead: banners and shields
Stormcloak hero Armory
Moon and star ring
Left-handed Rings complete
Bordersense
Training adjustments
Creatures and Food realistic overhaul
Skybirds
Birds of Skyrim
Diverse dragons collection
Better animals
Immersive Patrols
Orc women walk like a woman
Dwarven luggage
Beards
Fatherland: Sons
Fatherland: Daughters
RS children overhaul
Natural eyes
Belt-fastened Quivers
Road to Morthal
JK's Skyrim - all in one
Skyland all-in-one
Orc settlement enhanced
The Blackest Reaches
Lush overhaul
Better Skies
Stump stash - 50k gold
A quality world map - Vivid with Stone roads
The Void: a dark brotherhood armor replacer
Thane weapons Reborn
Reliquary of myth artifact overhaul
Vanilla armor replacer
Civil war armor overhaul
Skaal kid coat
Noble Skyrim - clutter
Enhanced blood textures
Lockpicking interface redone
Septim HD
Realistic water two
Better water for realistic water two
Trees addon sse
Sounds of Skyrim: complete edition
Elder Scrolls music combined
XP32 maximum skeleton+realistic ragdoll and force
Skyland LOD's
Alternate start: live another life
Moon and star: Immersion patch
Moon and star: RS children patch
New Beginnings: Live Another Life/ussep patch
Immersive hold borders/alternate start patch
Better Quest objectives/Paarthurnax dilemma patch
RDO-USSEP patch
JK's Skyrim/realistic water two patch
Archery tweaks/ordinator patch
Adopt Aventus Aretino/RS children patch
Adopt Helgi ghost/RS children patch
Skaal kid coat/RS children patch
Reliquary of myth/Wintersun patch
XP32/Belt-fastened Quivers patch
Dark Brotherhood tenets restored
Immersive hold borders consistency patch
Archery tweaks ordinator patch

Please help!  I need to know the proper load order. I have read multiple Forum postings on bethesda.net and Reddit. I've had this game now for about 3 weeks and haven't even been able to enter Whiterun!  I own Skyrim legendary Edition on the Xbox 360. I love this game! I bought SE for the mods.

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What a delightfully eccentric selection of mods.  Are these the ones you liked in LE?  I am wondering whether you actually checked that these now work in SE. You seem to have picked several that cover the same areas and are likely to conflict. You cannot rely on patches as these become erratic as soon as one of the constituents changes. You also have some that are notoriously difficult.

I may look at some of these again as I remember using them in LE many years ago and had forgotten them. But I doubt if they are any use now.

The good news is that you are missing many of the better mods that are now available.



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So which are covering the same thing? What are the newer versions you mentioned?

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So which are covering the same thing? What are the newer versions you mentioned?

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Follow the advice given in these forums. Don't load a whole lot of mods at once if things aren't working. If you want to play a particular race don't make lots of others available at character generation.

Why do you want 'Open Civil War' before you have even settled into the game?  Does that work with Immersive Patrols and border guards and all the other clutter you've added? Do you realise what all of those environment and overhaul mods are doing to your memory usage? You can't rely on patches. When one mod updates what happens to the other?  Most of your mods should be clean and simple to take out boring bits like lockpicking and add some convenience and luxury like a nice home or two.



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Run LOOT and check for compatibility issues. I wouldn't use so many mods without a clean install.

 

From my own experience you get CTDs mostly because of (1) mods compatibility issues (2) broken mods with renowned issues or badly optimized and (3) conflicts, NPCs overhaul for example. Most of my CTDs were caused by flora or NPCs mods, i've stopped using Trees Addon or SFO for that reason.

 

Easiest way to find the culprite is to deactivate half of your mods and see if you still have CTDs, rinse/repeat with remaining mods. or just check what makes sense/latest installed mods.



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Thanx so much. Loot is not an option since I am on xbox one. I wish it was on console.

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I have had another look at your list. I know JK's Skyrim and Skyland are supposed to work together, but why have both? I don't see either working with Immersive Patrols or the border mods. As for Open Civil War - are you trying to smash the game up?

You don't need the Solstheim mods until you intend to go there. You also can't do Forgotten City early on.

Skybirds and Birds of Skyrim and Better Skies? How do you think that would work?

Too many environment mods. I have given up Wet and Cold and Realistic Water, although they did not give me any trouble. One could be irritating at times and the other was hardly noticeable, so not worth a slot.

You could reduce your extra races to one you are using. How about making a half-orc dwarf? The dwarf is amusing but I soon tired of having to look up all the time. How about the new half-giant to compensate?



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I want to start by saying thank you. I readjusted my load over still having problems.

Current LO:

USSEP

Climates of Tamriel

Campfire

CCR

Holidays

Frostfall

YOT: frostfall

Wet and cold

epic enhanced console graphics

Character creation overhaul

CCO diverse races and genders

CCO Dynamic skill progression

Vokrii minimalistic perk overhaul

Growl werebeast of Skyrim

Wintersun faith of Skyrim

H.A.S.T.E.

Bounty perks

Even better Quest objectives

Paarthurnax dilemma

Quest objectives/Paarthurnax patch

Skaal Manor

Immersive hold borders

Immersive hold borders consistency patch

Man those borders

Point the way

Lampposts of Skyrim

Hearthfire Carriage destinations

Bordersense

Left-handed Rings complete

Better animals

Fatherland Sons

Fatherland daughters

RS children overhaul

Half beast visuals for growl

Natural eyes

Recover cities quick

Skyrim is windy

Better Skies

Quality world map

Diverse dragons collection

Immersive Patrols

Stormcloak hero Armory

Cloaks of Skyrim

Vanilla armor replacer 1K

Civil war armor overhaul

Sounds of Skyrim complete edition

Elder Scrolls music combined

Realistic water two

Bells of Skyrim

Open Cities Skyrim

Immersive citizens

Immersive citizens/Open Cities patch

Bells of Skyrim/Open Cities patch

Holidays/Open Cities patch

stump stash 50K

Alternate start

New beginnings

immersive hold borders/alternate start
patch

Thanks again.

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I Cut down my LO to 53 mods(excluding patches) from 100(excluding patches)



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