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[Nok2fai]

I also have Midwood Isles, falskaar, and moon and star plus all Associated patches. They are disabled.

[GGUNIT]

I have had another look at your list. I know JK's Skyrim and Skyland are supposed to work together, but why have both? I don't see either working with Immersive Patrols or the border mods. As for Open Civil War - are you trying to smash the game up?

You don't need the Solstheim mods until you intend to go there. You also can't do Forgotten City early on.

Skybirds and Birds of Skyrim and Better Skies? How do you think that would work?

Too many environment mods. I have given up Wet and Cold and Realistic Water, although they did not give me any trouble. One could be irritating at times and the other was hardly noticeable, so not worth a slot.

You could reduce your extra races to one you are using. How about making a half-orc dwarf? The dwarf is amusing but I soon tired of having to look up all the time. How about the new half-giant to compensate?

 

JK's skyrim and Skyland are totally different. Skyland is a texture overhaul, JK's Skyrim isn't. A complete texture pack is helping a lot since we can (and i did) download hundreds of textures here and there - easier and faster.

Content mods aren't an issue since they aren't active unless we're starting them, it costs no memory either. I don't see why forgotten City could be an issue if one is installing it at start or not tbh. As long as one is having enough disk space, so be it.

Birds mods is a tough choice, there are tons of incompatibility and conflicts, as far as i'm concerned i don't install them. There are better mods to add immersion, even better sounds mods are wiser candidates.

 

Environment mods are pretty much survival mods, since Creation Club survival mod is utter garbage, we'd better use Camping, Wet/Cold, INeed, FrostFall instead, they're more complete, work better but cost a lot of RAM. Really blended roads, better dynamic mountain/snow, Better water (Cathedral water does an incredible job while keeping Ineed compatible at a really low memory cost - One can also use ENB water with really nice fx but no compatibility), Complete snow mods (fluffy snow for better compatibility), better ice (RiS ice only, glacierLab/Arctic/Refracting ice/ice debris/icicles along with ice parallax is awesome when playing a lot in the North), 3DTrees and Fantasy Forest Overhaul are doing a great job at making great landscapes too. And i don't even talk about cities improvement or houses, Obscure College of Winterhold is a good example of a great improvement if one wants to learn magic in the North.

If one is using a decent ENB, particles patch with ENB light (EmberHD/Fireplaces/Inferno as extra) are improving lights to a next level after ELFx or ELE.

 

Some mods really improve the game too, Hunterborn (new ressources and hunt), Immersive patrols/OBIS (encounters), Convenient Horses (better horse gameplay), Sacrosanct/Moontales (Werewolf/Vampire gameplay), Notice board for additional quests.

 

Character overhaul needs a few mods only, Ordinator (better skills), CACO (better alchemy), Ars Metalllica (improved smithing), Racemenu along with XPMSE bring a lot of customisation (faces, body, combat style, animations etc.) with a few mods only.

 

A few mods to improve weapons and armors can be great too since vanilla game is quite poor in that department. Immersive armors, apachii divine elegance Store, Gigaduex, even TAWOBA or legendary DeserterX for a bit of sexyness and lots of customization (quite ironically we can still wear lots of legendary bikini pieces along with fully covered gear ^ ^). AmidianBorn Book of silence is pretty much mandatory, especially since a lot of mods rely upon its weapons and armors textures. I would skip immersive weapons (really bad compilation) but JaySus swords, Lore Weapon Expansion or Hammerfell armor are all great weapon mods. As a bonus outfit integration or lazy bikini mods make enemis actually wear and use some additional gear mods. Girl's heavy armor is a nice replacer if one wants to play with more feminine vanilla armors.

Special mention to the quite awesome Guards armor replacer mod that adds tons of lorewise well polished armors/weapons and new faction gear. Frankly HD Imperial will do a great job at improving imperial faction.

 

I'm pretty sure OP could cut down again to even less mods, i don't see many that useful mods but to each their own. I don't think that starting with tons of various mods is a good idea, better start with mandatory or complete mods, frenetically downloading everything never helps.

Edited by GGUNIT, 19 April 2020 - 07:10 PM.

[Anselmp]

I am happy to defer to GGUNIT on that general review. That is the sort of thing that should be highlighted on a forum.

I notice that you are using Immersive Citizens. For some weeks I have had mysterious things happening in Skyrim, not crashes but blocked quests and such. Often these are due to lines of dialogue not appearing when they should. Also any time generateFNIS needed to be run I had to reinstall SkyUI again after logging out. Removing Immersive Citizens altogether and starting again seems so far to have cured all of the problems I was having. 

[n3fr1t]

Hi there dont know if this is the right forum but if anyone could assist what could be the problem with this load order?

 

  0  0     Skyrim.esm

  1  1     Update.esm

  2  2     Dawnguard.esm

  3  3     HearthFires.esm

  4  4     Dragonborn.esm

  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

254 FE   0 Ecotone Dual Sheath.esl

  6  6     BBLuxurySuite.esm

  7  7     Campfire.esm

  8  8     FlowerGirls SE.esm

  9  9     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

 10  a     OSA.esm

 11  b     SkyUI_SE.esp

 12  c     SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

 13  d     ELFX - Exteriors.esp

 14  e     ELFX - Weathers.esp

 15  f     Immersive Wenches.esp

 16 10     FNIS.esp

 17 11     BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

 18 12     EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

 19 13     The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp

 20 14     The Great City of Solitude.esp

 21 15     RomanceOfNPCs.esp

 22 16     YurianaWench.esp

254 FE   1 Flower Girls NPC Relationships.esp

 23 17     iNeed.esp

 24 18     iNeed - Extended.esp

 25 19     The Great Town of Ivarstead.esp

 26 1a     The Great Town of Karthwasten.esp

 27 1b     The Great Village of Old Hroldan.esp

 28 1c     Point The Way.esp

 29 1d     CFTO.esp

 30 1e     Run For Your Lives.esp

 31 1f     NewArmoury.esp

 32 20     Frostfall.esp

 33 21     Hateful Wenches.esp

 34 22     FlowerGirls SE - Adventures.esp

 35 23     TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp

 36 24     BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp

 37 25     RomanceOfNPCs_BBLS_Patch.esp

 38 26     ClassicClasses.esp

 39 27     Deadly Wenches.esp

 40 28     CobbEncumbrance.esp

 41 29     Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp

 42 2a     Fixed body collision.esp

 43 2b     FlowerGirls SE - Bathing Beauties Patch.esp

 44 2c     FlowerGirls SE - IW Patch.esp

 45 2d     Ecotone Dual Sheath Patch.esp

254 FE   2 3BBB.esp

 46 2e     Footprints.esp

 47 2f     FollowersCanLoot.esp

 48 30     Forgotten Wenches.esp

 49 31     Beards.esp

 50 32     CBBE.esp

 51 33     Immersive Wenches -Enslaved Wenches patch-.esp

254 FE   3 Inn Soaps.esp

 52 34     Brows.esp

 53 35     Judgment Wenches.esp

 54 36     KS Hairdo's.esp

 55 37     LootandDegradation.esp

 56 38     Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp

 57 39     NorthernSWS.esp

254 FE   4 KSHairVanilla1.esp

 58 3a     RaceMenu.esp

 59 3b     Realistic AI Detection 2 SE Lite.esp

 60 3c     SimplyKnock.esp

 61 3d     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

 62 3e     1nivWICCloaks.esp

 63 3f     FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp

254 FE   5 WIC - Extra Leveled List.esp

 64 40     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

254 FE   6 KSHairVanilla2.esp

 65 41     RaceMenuPlugin.esp

254 FE   7 KSHairVanilla3.esp

 66 42     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

 67 43     SOSRaceMenu.esp

 68 44     XPMSE.esp

 69 45     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

254 FE   8 Bathing in Skyrim SE - Alternate Start.esp

 70 46     ELFXEnhancer.esp

 71 47     RealisticWaterTwo.esp

254 FE   9 RealisticWaterTwo - Needs Mod Patch.esp

254 FE   a Bathing in SSE - RWT.esp

254 FE   b RealisticWaterTwo - ELFX Patch.esp

 72 48     Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

 

I get a ctd before the bethesda logo shows up...

Thank you in advance

[n3fr1t]

Update I reduced my load order to this point

 

  0  0     Skyrim.esm

  1  1     Update.esm

  2  2     Dawnguard.esm

  3  3     HearthFires.esm

  4  4     Dragonborn.esm

  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

254 FE   0 Ecotone Dual Sheath.esl

  6  6     BBLuxurySuite.esm

  7  7     Campfire.esm

  8  8     FlowerGirls SE.esm

  9  9     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

 10  a     OSA.esm

 11  b     SkyUI_SE.esp

 12  c     Immersive Wenches.esp

 13  d     FNIS.esp

 14  e     BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

 15  f     The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp

 16 10     The Great Town of Ivarstead.esp

 17 11     The Great Town of Karthwasten.esp

 18 12     The Great Village of Old Hroldan.esp

 19 13     The Great City of Solitude.esp

 20 14     RomanceOfNPCs.esp

 21 15     YurianaWench.esp

254 FE   1 Flower Girls NPC Relationships.esp

 22 16     Deadly Wenches.esp

 23 17     CobbEncumbrance.esp

 24 18     Fixed body collision.esp

 25 19     FlowerGirls SE - Bathing Beauties Patch.esp

 26 1a     FlowerGirls SE - IW Patch.esp

 27 1b     Ecotone Dual Sheath Patch.esp

254 FE   2 3BBB.esp

 28 1c     Forgotten Wenches.esp

 29 1d     Beards.esp

 30 1e     CBBE.esp

 31 1f     Immersive Wenches -Enslaved Wenches patch-.esp

254 FE   3 Inn Soaps.esp

 32 20     Brows.esp

 33 21     Judgment Wenches.esp

 34 22     KS Hairdo's.esp

 35 23     LootandDegradation.esp

 36 24     Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp

254 FE   4 KSHairVanilla1.esp

 37 25     RaceMenu.esp

 38 26     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

 39 27     CFTO.esp

 40 28     NewArmoury.esp

 41 29     Frostfall.esp

 42 2a     Hateful Wenches.esp

 43 2b     FlowerGirls SE - Adventures.esp

 44 2c     TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp

 45 2d     BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp

 46 2e     RomanceOfNPCs_BBLS_Patch.esp

 47 2f     ClassicClasses.esp

 48 30     1nivWICCloaks.esp

 49 31     FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp

254 FE   5 WIC - Extra Leveled List.esp

 50 32     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

254 FE   6 KSHairVanilla2.esp

 51 33     RaceMenuPlugin.esp

254 FE   7 KSHairVanilla3.esp

 52 34     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

 53 35     SOSRaceMenu.esp

 54 36     XPMSE.esp

 55 37     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 56 38     Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

 

And now it lets me load, so going to experiment a bit more with it...

[Nok2fai]

First you load order need some tlc. Check thus guy out(Verdict of Odin) he helped me alot