starfis Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 What can generally cause it? I was stupid enough that I've blindly updated and removed several mods, because I wanted to start a new playthrough anyway and now when I start the game. I only see a logo, then the main menu background with the smoke appears and that's it. My mod list haven't changed that much (at least I thought so), removed Apocalypse, Growl, Sacrosant and their patches. I've used a new vortex profile with separate save files so no saves are in the game. Bad thing is that even when I remove the new mods I've added it doesn't help. Still infinite waiting. I have too many plugins but majority of them are patches for patches of patches,, therefore ESPs flagged as ESLs. # Automatically generated by VortexSkyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ccbgssse002-exoticarrows.esl ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl ccqdrsse002-firewood.esl ccbgssse035-petnhound.esl ccfsvsse001-backpacks.esl ccedhsse001-norjewel.esl ccbgssse037-curios.esl ccmtysse002-ve.esl ccbgssse016-umbra.esm ccbgssse031-advcyrus.esm ccbgssse058-ba_steel.esl ccbgssse041-netchleather.esl ccedhsse002-splkntset.esl ccbgssse064-ba_elven.esl ccbgssse063-ba_ebony.esl ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.esl ccbgssse060-ba_dragonscale.esl ccbgssse051-ba_daedricmail.esl ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.esl ccbgssse025-advdsgs.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp Unofficial Rare Curios Patch.esl MajesticMountains_Moss.esp Landscape and Water Fixes.esp Unofficial Saints and Seducers Patch.esl Unofficial Dead Man's Dread Patch.esl Unofficial Spell Knight Armor Patch.esl Unofficial Vigil Enforcer Armor Set Patch.esl Unofficial Arcane Archer Pack Patch.esl Unofficial Umbra Patch.esl Unofficial Nordic Jewelry Patch.esl Unofficial Daedric Mail Armor Patch.esl Unofficial Dwarven Mail Armor Patch.esl Unofficial Netch Leather Armors Patch.esl Unofficial Arcane Accessories Patch.esl Unofficial Ebony Plate Armor Patch.esl Unofficial Elven Hunter Armor Patch.esl Unofficial Nix-Hound Patch.esl Unofficial Steel Soldier Armor Patch.esl Unofficial Dragonscale Armor Patch.esl Unofficial Stalhrim Fur Armor Patch.esl ETaC - RESOURCES.esm HouseofHorrorsDivine.esl JSwords.esm WM_WidgetMod.esl FISS.esp AHZmoreHUD.esl MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm 3DNPC.esp BSAssets.esm Hjaltbrand.esl SMSP - Less Aggressive Slaughterfish.esl Lanterns Of Skyrim II.esm DwemerGatesNoRelock.esl RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm BSHeartland.esm BS_DLC_patch.esp Campfire.esm Undriel_FallingGildergreenPetals.esl S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp Butterflies.esp SkyUI_SE.esp S3DLandscapes NextGenerationForests.esp Veydosebrom.esp waterplants.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp NSUTR_bugfixes.esp NSUTR_groundsnow_mesh_fixes.esp NSUTR_improvements.esp Obsidian Weathers.esp Laundry.esp Bee Hives.esp ICNs_ImmersiveCollegeNPCs.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp Waterplants-Veydosebrom Patch.esp CuyiAntlers.esp LoS II - Tamriel Master Lights.esp Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp DepthsOfSkyrim.esp Immersive Encounters.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp OCW_Obscure's_CollegeofWinterhold.esp Book Covers Skyrim.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp AVExpansion.esp Armor Variants Expansion - 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IC PATCH.esp EnchantmentSwapper.esp ETaC - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp Footprints.esp GoToBed-AllGUD-patch.esp GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp HeightSizeFix.esp iActivate.esp icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp IHSS.esp iHUD.esp ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp MLPSoulGems.esp Player Blink Fix.esp TMBVanillaArmorandClothes.esp RealRabbitsHD.esp RespectTheLegate.esp RLO - Effects.esp RSC 3DNPC Patch.esp RSC CRF Patch.esp RSC Solitude Expansion Patch.esp Rudy Nordic Pottery SSE.esp Runandwalkpaces.esp Savage Wolves - Feral Foxesx.esp ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp SignatureEquipment.esp SimplyKnock.esp SleepTight.esp Smilodon - Combat of Skyrim MCM.esp SMIM-Bruma-Patch.esp Summermyst - SIC patch.esp TaarieDialFix.esp TKRecoil.esp WNB_WeatheredNordicBodypaints.esp WondersofWeather.esp zz_GDRAHoods.esp CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp Smoking Torches And Candles.esp DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp GoToBed.esp GoToBed Addon.esp Courier.esp Qw_WACCF_RSChildren Patch.esp Qw_WACCF_TMBVAC Patch.esp SIC - ICH Patch.esp Windsong Immersive Character Overhaul - Ethereal Elven Overhaul Patch.esp KS Dragon Overhaul 2.esp All Geared Up Derivative.esp Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp NordWarUA's Vanilla Armor and Weapon Expansion.esp PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp Keeping Warm.esp Common Clothes and Armors.esp Creation Club Integration - Steel Soldier.esp Armor Variants Expansion - CCAA Patch.esp Inconsequential NPCs.esp Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp SkyrimSewers.esp CC Misc Patches - Saints and Seducers.esp Morning Fogs SSE.esp Cloaks.esp SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp Armor Variants Expansion - CRF Patch.esp CC Misc Patches - Arcane Archer Pack.esp CC Misc Patches - Saints and Seducers USCCCP.esp Guards Armor Replacer - WACCF Patch.esp Immersive Encounters - RS Children Patch.esp RSC IncNPC.esp CollegeEntry.esp MCWT_InescapableInsights_EBQO.esp Sepolcri.esp BSHeartland - Unofficial Patch.esp Tomebound.esp MM - CRF + USSEP.esp Tomebound - Immersive Sounds Patch.esp Qw_ISC_CRF Patch.esp WardsFunctionalitiesExtended.esp Tomebound - Ordinator Patch.esp Heavy Armory Enchanted.esp SkyrimSpearMechanic.esp Common Clothes and Armors - ACE Patch.esp CYA_ChooseYourOwnArchMage.esp Cloaks&Capes.esp Qw_ACE_CloaksAndCapes Patch.esp Cloaks&Capes - WACCF-ACE.esp Amulets of Skyrim - Tweaks and Fixes.esp Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp Dwarfsphere.esp Inigo.esp LoS II - Lantern Workers.esp JK's Sleeping Giant Inn.esp JK's The Bannered Mare.esp Fulcimentum - More Staves and Wands of Skyrim.esp EmbersHD.esp Qw_3DNPC_USSEP Patch.esp Qw_WICO_3DNPC Patch.esp Cuyima 3DNPC - Redone.esp JK's Belethor's General Goods.esp JK's Warmaiden's.esp SeranaDialogAddon.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp Qw_ACE_BSHeartland Patch.esp TimingIsEverything.esp 018Auri.esp JK's Arcadia's Cauldron.esp Inns and Taverns - Remove VelVi (en).esp Finding_Derkeethus.esp Notification Overhaul SE.esp Frostfall.esp KS Hairdo's.esp Men of Winter.esp Dead Man's Dread Distribution.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp Creation Club Improvment Saints&Seduction.esp CWRepairs.esp Faction Crossbows.esp PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp Royal Armory Tweaks.esp OCW_CRF_FEPatch.esp sacEXP1.esp Solitude Expansion Navmesh Fixes.esp Helarchen Creek.esp Telengard.esp OCW_3DTaP_FEPatch.esp Soljund's Sinkhole.esp Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp CampNewZainab.esp Inns and Taverns - Remove HR (en).esp Waterplants3Dlandscapespatch.esp GPRuins.esp MicroCave1.esp Inns and Taverns - Remove SH (en).esp Inns and Taverns - Remove Mixwater (en).esp Bells of Skyrim.esp SkyrimReputation_SSE.esp Missives.esp Great Town of Ivarstead - USSEP Patch.esp Great Town of Shor's Stone - Verdant Patch.esp BeyondSkyrimMerchant.esp Beyond Skyrim Distribution.esp KaliliesNPCs.esp Bijin_AIO-SV 2018.esp Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp Skyshards.esp notice board.esp Creation Club Integration - Ebony Plate.esp Creation Club Integration - Vigil Enforcer.esp Creation Club Integration - Netch Leather.esp Creation Club Integration - Elven Hunter.esp Creation Club Integration - Dwarven Mail.esp Creation Club Integration - Daedric Mail.esp Creation Club Integration - Stalhrim Fur.esp Creation Club Integration - Spell Knight.esp Creation Club Integration - Studded Dragonscale.esp Creation Club Integration - AIO Complete Armours ACE.esp Qw_ACE_SkyrimImmersiveCreatures Patch.esp Armor Variants Expansion - WACCF Patch.esp Ella_AuriAlt.esp iWant Frostfall Widgets.esp YOT - Frostfall Module.esp GuidingLight.esp OCW_BCS-LL_FEPatch.esp OCW_BCS_FEPatch.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp JKs The Drunken Huntsman.esp Qw_S3DTrees_CRF Patch.esp WICO - Immersive People - CRF Patch.esp Qw_ACE_CRF Patch.esp ZIA_WACCF_Patch.esp DSerCombatGameplayOverhaul.esp Landscape For Grass Mods - Oakwood PATCH.esp No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp ICNs_Lite.esp LoS II - Oakwood patch.esp Finding_VelehkSain.esp Great Town of Ivarstead - Landscape Grass Patch.esp LoS II - Helarchen Creek patch.esp LoS II - Soljund's Skinkhole patch.esp Great Town of Ivarstead - Landscape and Water Fixes Patch.esp MinorSpells.esp Qw_S3DLandscapes_CRF Patch.esp WiZkiD Signs - No Snow Under the Roof patch.esp LoS II - Telengard patch.esp Finding_Derkeethus_EBQO.esp WetandCold.esp WetandCold - Fur Hoods Fix.esp Fulcimentum - Palaces and Castles Enhanced Patch.esp SkyrimReputation_SSE_Wintersun.esp Flame Meshes Patch.esp KD - Realistic Fireplaces SE.esp RoyalArmoryTypoPatch.esp Serana.esp OCW_WACCF_FEPatch.esp OCW_3DNPC_FEPatch.esp OCW_ACE_FEPatch.esp Ulags Legacy.esp Ulags Legacy AllGUD.esp Faction Crossbows AllGUD.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp Lucien.esp The Great Town of Ivarstead - 3DNPC Patch.esp Great Town of Ivarstead - Embers HD Patch.esp WarmongerArmory_SSE.esp icebladeofthemonarch.esp Great Town of Shor's Stone - Lanterns of Skyrim II Patch.esp Echtra.esp The Notice Board SMIM Ropes Fix.esp LoS II - SMIM patch.esp Great Town of Ivarstead - LoS II Patch.esp OCW_LoS2-TML_FEPatch.esp Helarchen Creek - No Snow Under the Roof.esp Project AHO - USSEP Patch.esp Beyond Skyrim Distribution - Dead Man's Dread Patch.esp Beyond Skyrim Distribution - Lucien Patch.esp More Radiant Quests for the Companions.esp OCW_IL_FEPatch.esp The Great Town of Ivarstead - Notice Board Patch.esp FSA_FindingSusannaAlive_BotIR.esp Sepolcri - Cutting Room Floor patch.esp WiZkiD Signs - Interesting NPC patch.esp MCWT_ACollegeCoup.esp MCWT_DeadDunmerDelivery.esp MCWT_ExpiditeTheExpirate.esp Evils Bane - Johnskyrim.esp SkyblivionSteelArmor.esp WeaponsOf3E_SSE.esp Great Town of Shor's Stone - USSEP Patch.esp SkyTEST-Rabbits.esp AdventurerMashupComp.esp Great Town of Ivarstead - TML Patch.esp BA_Bibliophile's_Arcanaeum.esp BA_LostLibrary.esp BA_Sorting_BCS.esp BA_Sorting_LL.esp Qw_BookCoversSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp Wintersun - BCS Patch.esp Oakwood - 3D Landscapes.esp BCS_NotsoFast_Patch.esp 3dNPCs Erevan 3E Cyrodiilic Steel Armor.esp Frostfall Vampire Fix.esp OBS_ClosingTime.esp 018InigoBanterPatch.esp LoS II - Bruma patch.esp LoS II TML - Guard Armor Replacer patch.esp LoS II - Eli's Breezehome patch.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp BetterQuestObjectives - Wintersun Patch.esp Auri - USSEP Patch.esp Great Town of Shor's Stone - Tamriel Master Lights Patch.esp MCWT_ACollegeCoup_3DNs.esp MCWT_ACollegeCoup_ICNs_OE.esp MCWT_ACollegeCoup_OCW.esp MCWT_GovernableGatekeeper.esp Oakwood - Trees Add On.esp Great Town of Shor's Stone - Obsidian Mountain Fogs Patch.esp MCWT_ArnielsAppeals.esp Immersive Patrols - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp Auri - Wintersun + Immersive Creatures Patch.esp EBQO - SIC patch.esp Cutting Room Floor - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp Helarchen Creek - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp Interesting NPCs - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp Lucien - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp RS Children - WACCF Consistency Patch.esp Skyrim Sewers - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp WACCF - CRF Consistency Patch.esp Wintersun - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp 3DNPC0.esp 3DNPC - CRF Patch.esp Creation Club Integration - USCCCP.esp BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp Combat Gameplay Overhaul - WAACF Patch.esp HeavyLegion.esp FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp Guards Armor Replacer - WICO Patch.esp HeavyLegion - Cloaks of Skyrim Patch.esp HeavyLegion - WACCF Patch.esp Cutting Room Floor - NPCs Overhaul.esp KaliliesNPCs - CRF Patch.esp EEO CRF patch.esp Wintersun - ZIA Patch.esp WACCE alternate texture meshes.esp Bijin AIO Creation Integration fix.esp Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp Cloaks&Capes - 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3DNPC Patch.esp Great Town of Shor's Stone - Embers HD Patch.esp Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp Combat Gameplay Overhaul - Imperious Patch.esp Imperious - Compatibility Patch.esp EEO Imperious patch.esp YOT - Imperious.esp Trade & Barter.esp Trade and Barter - Oakwood Patch.esp Trade and Barter - Telengard Patch.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp CC Misc Patches - Arcane Archer Pack CCOR.esp CC Misc Patches - Dead Man's Dread CCOR.esp CC Misc Patches - Saints and Seducers CCOR.esp CCOR_Campfire_Patch.esp Cloaks_CCOR_Patch.esp Dr_Bandolier_CCOR_Patch.esp Faction Crossbows_CCOR_Patch.esp SL01AmuletsSkyrim_CCOR_Patch.esp Creation Club Integration - AIO Complete Armours CCOR.esp PrvtI_HeavyArmory_CCOR_Patch.esp aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp imp_helm_legend_WACCF_AMB_Patch.esp PrvtI_HeavyArmory_CCOR_AMB_Patch.esp AVExpansion-CCOR Patch.esp CCOR_JSwords_Patch.esp CCOR_JSwords_PrvtI_HeavyArmory_Patch.esp NordWarUA's Race Armor Expansion.esp NWRAE - AMB Content Addon Patch.esp Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp Smithing Perks Overhaul SE.esp Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp WEHealingPotions Patch - CACO.esp CACO ethereal_elven_overhaul Patch.esp CACO_BeyondSkyrimWoT_Patch.esp CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp CACO_Wintersun.esp YOT - Ordinator.esp CCOR_Ordinator.esp Inigo_CACO_Patch.esp Lock_Overhaul.esp YOT - Lock Overhaul.esp SPO_Ordinated.esp SPO_Ordinator_Patch.esp Ordinator - Hidden Smithing Specialization Perks.esp CACO-ZIA Patch Plus.esp ButterfliesUnchained.esp CACO_Beyond Skyrim Bruma_Patch.esp Keld-Nar.esp Hunterborn.esp Hunterborn_CACO-SE_Patch.esp CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp Trade and Barter - Keld-Nar Patch.esp CACO_Bruma_Rare Curios_Patch.esp CACO_SkyrimImmersiveCreaturesSE_Patch.esp ButterfliesUnchained(ESL) - CACO Patch.esp Common Clothes and Armors - CACO Patch.esp Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul_CCOR_Patch.esp GoToBed-Hunterborn-patch.esp OMEGA Beyond Skyrim DLC CACO Patch.esp OMEGA WACCF CACO Patch.esp RSC Keld-Nar Patch.esp Solitude Expansion CACO patch.esp Qw_CACO_3DNPC Patch.esp Alchemical Treatise.esp Qw_CACO_BookCoversSkyrim Patch.esp Qw_CACO_S3DTrees Patch.esp YOT - Hunterborn.esp Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp Bruma - Alternate Start.esp BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp TheChoiceIsYours.esp RLO - Interiors.esp JK's Sleeping Giant Inn ICAIO Patch.esp JKs Belethors General Goods - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp JKs Warmaidens - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp TCIY BCS Patch.esp TCIY_CRF_Patch.esp TCIY_Wintersun_Patch.esp Serana Dialogue Edit.esp Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp PCE - Royal Armory Patch.esp ETaC - Complete.esp LoS II - ETaC patch.esp Finding_Helgi_and_Laelette.esp BleakFallsBarrowRevisited.esp UstengravRevisited.esp ETaC - Complete No Snow Patch.esp Bring Out Your Dead.esp PCE - USSEP+CRF Patch.esp PCE - Skyrim Sewers Patch.esp PCE - Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch.esp Whistling Mine.esp JKs Bannered Mare - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp JKs Drunken Huntsman - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp EmbersHD - RLO Patch.esp PCE - RLO Patch.esp PCE - 3DNPC Patch.esp PCE - Inconsequential NPCs Patch.esp PCE - WACCF Armor Clothing Extension Patch.esp Convenient Horses.esp CWR_IC_Patch.esp Landscape For Grass Mods -Immersive Citizens PATCH.esp ETaC - Complete S3D Patch.esp CH BRU.esp ETaC - Complete RSC Patch.esp KrittaKittyHorsesForSSE.esp Convenient Horses - CACO+SIC+Summermyst.esp Qw_CACO_RDO Patch.esp LoS II - Whistling Mine patch.esp Whistling Mine - No Snow Under the Roof.esp Misc Dialogue Edits.esp More Dialogue Options.esp RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp Cutting Room Floor - Realistic Dialogue Overhaul Patch.esp The Choice is Yours - WACCF Consistency Patch.esp YOT - Convenient Horses.esp PCE - Amulets of Skyrim Patch.esp PCE - RDO Patch.esp PCE - Cloaks Patch.esp Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp YOT - Andromeda.esp nwsFollowerFramework.esp nwsFF_NoTeamMagicDamage.esp OCW_CellSettings.esp MCWT_EarlyElementalist_OCW.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp Winterhold Restored.esp OCW_WR2_FEPatch.esp Winterhold Restored - BDS Patch.esp Winterhold Restored - NSUTR Patch.esp Great Town of Ivarstead - RW2 Patch.esp Realistic Water Two - Landscape For Grass Mods Patch.esp Oakwood - Realistic Water Two 2.0.0 Patch.esp Telengard - Realistic Water Two 2.0.0 Patch.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Skyrim Bruma.esp ENB Light.esp WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp Sum_WACCF_Patch.esp Atlas Map Markers.espOCW_AMM-SE_FEPatch.esp Any help appreciated. 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anjenthedog Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 For me, an infinite load screen can be caused by an LE mod that is sufficiently incompatible with SE. (usually contains scripts and addressing that doesn't conform and causes the game to go belly up)an overload of installed, loaded animationsexceeding the mod count limit *(ie non esl flagged)an unrecognized mod conflict (ie when deploying, the mod manager fails to catch some mod conflict)....... possibly, a poorly written mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starfis Posted May 27, 2020 Author Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) That's the problem. Like I said, I didn't really add any obscure mods from loverslab, tumblr or some chinese or russian pages I don't understand :wink:. I've just removed couple of armor mods I wasn't using, some mods by Enai and replaced Apocalypse with Mysticism Magic, I've converted Inconsequential NPCs Visual Overhaul myself and added Great Towns of Ivarstead, Shor's Stone and Mixwater Village (and like thirty patches for these) but even if I remove all these files i've added nothing changes. I'm at 244 esp which is ten less han when the game was still working, no new animations, just Complete Combat and Archery Overhauls which are using together thousands of others at the moment. I've rebuild the Nemesis just to be sure. Sorry that I'm rumbling, but I'm recollecting and remembering what I've done over these two days. Edited May 27, 2020 by starfis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjenthedog Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Ok.... When you uninstalled, did you uninstall the first one open the game make a new save close game clean savefile using Fallrim and save results repeat 1-4 for each mod *uninstalled install first new mod go to game ensure proper operation if true exit and install next check game again. repeat and rinse 6-9 as necessary ^^^^ that is the only way I know to ensure things are going to go well. Bulk uninstallations or installations are fraught with potential issues and game failures. Now, maybe you did. if so, my apologies for sounding condescending. if not, perhaps you can backtrack and do it "right" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starfis Posted May 27, 2020 Author Share Posted May 27, 2020 Nope, I was stupid even after all these years of moding, but I had no plans to go back to these saves so I've risked it without checking it everytime. And it never happened to me before. But I still think that the main menu should at least load. Now I'm removing these additions mod by mod and still nothing. I've even removed some SKSE plugins which were working before like Quick Loot. It has to be something outside of the load order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjenthedog Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Well I'm at my limit for what I can offer. I'm not a longtime Skyrim vet/ modder extraordinaire, just a hack player with ~1-1/2 years under my belt. Best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starfis Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 Returning in my own footsteps helped i guess because I've actually found the source of my problem! The Waterplants! Disabling that fixed everything. Thank you for your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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