cumbrianlad Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Hiya. Juust a quick couple of questions, if I may... Question 1: If I delete an xmarker that is the enable parent of other objects, via script in a quest, will this cause problems? Will it also delete the children? That's fine if it does. In this case it would be better if it did. I could disable and delete the children first. Question 2: If I disable and then delete a 'Forced reference Alias', does this remove that reference as being persistent in the game save, or not? This has a bearing on question 1. If it removes persistence, I'd really like to delete all the children of the x-marker. I just like to tidy up, where possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxarturo Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Question 1: "If I delete an xmarker that is the enable parent of other objects, via script in a quest, will this cause problems?" - No, but the children will remain in the state they were when the xMarker weas deleted. "Will it also delete the children?" No. * 'Enable Parent' has a lot of disadvantages: - one is that it will not be deleted if its parent is deleted. - Another one is that actors that have assign an enable parent and they are expected to respawn, they won't. - Objects that have assign an enable parent can not be disable / enable directly by any other script targeting that object. * And some others that i'm too lazy right now to go into details. Question 2: "If I disable and then delete a 'Forced reference Alias', does this remove that reference as being persistent in the game save, or not?" - Anything / everything that is deleted (from script), does not longer exists on your 'Next Save' file, after you leave the cell in which the deletion took place. I hope it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumbrianlad Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 As ever, Maxarturo, you never fail to disappoint. I hate using forced references, so this sorts it for me. I'll include the children as forced Ref aliases, instead of just the parent. When I want to get rid of them all, I'll first delete the children, then the enable parent. That way I remove all persistent references from the save, which is tidy and doesn't fill up player save files with useless references that are no longer needed! Tidying up a quest is important to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasikko Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Question 1:"If I delete an xmarker that is the enable parent of other objects, via script in a quest, will this cause problems?"- No, but the children will remain in the state they were when the xMarker weas deleted. "Will it also delete the children?"No.* 'Enable Parent' has a lot of disadvantages:- one is that it will not be deleted if its parent is deleted.- Another one is that actors that have assign an enable parent and they are expected to respawn, they won't.- Objects that have assign an enable parent can not be disable / enable directly by any other script targeting that object.* And some others that i'm too lazy right now to go into details. Question 2:"If I disable and then delete a 'Forced reference Alias', does this remove that reference as being persistent in the game save, or not?"- Anything / everything that is deleted (from script), does not longer exists on your 'Next Save' file, after you leave the cell in which the deletion took place. I hope it helps. No it didn't help, you haven't the foggiest idea whatchu talkin' bout and need to gtfo now. I'm kidding.(I get a little tired of being so serious around here haha) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxarturo Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Question 1:"If I delete an xmarker that is the enable parent of other objects, via script in a quest, will this cause problems?"- No, but the children will remain in the state they were when the xMarker weas deleted. "Will it also delete the children?"No.* 'Enable Parent' has a lot of disadvantages:- one is that it will not be deleted if its parent is deleted.- Another one is that actors that have assign an enable parent and they are expected to respawn, they won't.- Objects that have assign an enable parent can not be disable / enable directly by any other script targeting that object.* And some others that i'm too lazy right now to go into details. Question 2:"If I disable and then delete a 'Forced reference Alias', does this remove that reference as being persistent in the game save, or not?"- Anything / everything that is deleted (from script), does not longer exists on your 'Next Save' file, after you leave the cell in which the deletion took place. I hope it helps. No it didn't help, you haven't the foggiest idea whatchu talkin' bout and need to gtfo now. I'm kidding.(I get a little tired of being so serious around here haha) I enjoy humor a lot, especially black humor ! (it is very difficult for something to bother me), but watch out with whom you are joking with, the majority of people / modders get easily offended for no reason whatsoever. Have a pleasent neight my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasikko Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 No worries, I'm aware, I've been here long enough to be well acquainted with that fact haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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