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LilyTepes

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so as the tittle say  i have a little problem with the body scales option from racemenu

 

my problems is that i uninstalled a mod that added the full list of options for the body scales sliders  and i forgot who it was

i need it because Body Morpgs page doesnt give me hands/legs sliders  for example: hand lenght or tights/calf lenghts:   and without them i noticed how small the legs are and how long the hands are and looks wrong

 

if someone knows whick mod adds more sliders for body scales( not body morphs)   pls tell me

 

here a picture of what sliders list i mean

Skyrim-SE-2020-09-11-16-07-41aga.jpg

 

and i have another problem with the arrows position it should be on the left side of the bow when aiming but its like on the other side behind the bow.. do u know what may be the cause of that?

 

and yes before u ask .. INIGO didnt want to show up ,he is hiding bcs he is naked too for some reason i found him like that there


Edited by LilyTepes, 11 September 2020 - 01:40 PM.


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idk...CBBE perhaps? Or maybe CBBE-3BBB?

 

It seems to me that as long as I've used racemenu, the Body Scales submenu has had far more entries than what you show. But I've had CBBE installed since a couple weeks after I got the game going (about 2 yrs ago), and 3BBB as long as it's been available, so I don't have a sense of how things are if using only vanilla. 

 

And just in case you're talking about editing NPCS vs the player, when I edit an NPC - I do it through The Manipulator, but there are other mods that provide the necessary linkage -  they also have a long list of body scale sliders, whether they use CBBE, CBBE-3BBB or BHUNP body definitions

 

Note, in case you're playing on a console, on that side of things I have no idea.

 

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As to the bow... no idea. I had some serious issues for almost the entire first year playing with bows due to some mod (I think it was SkyHUD but can't be sure) 

 

And I think the way I fixed my issue (bow position was screwed up AND arrows fired way left of aim) was, in either 

SkyUI AIO Survival  or possibly Proper Aiming. 



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You don't seem to be talking about Morphs, which are sliders exposed by either CBBE or CBBE 3BBB.  I'm pretty sure that the Body Scales sliders are exposed by XPMSE.  I started to attempt to verify this by digging into RaceMenu's data files... but then I discovered that I don't know where RaceMenu stores these configured sliders and couldn't find them in a brief search.

 

Apparently RaceMenu's sliders are all created by Papyrus scripts.  I dug around in several obvious PSC candidates for a few minutes, but couldn't find any direct references to these Body Scales sliders.  Since they affect weapons substantially, though, that is why I suspect that they may be created by a script from XPMSE.


Edited by VulcanTourist, 11 September 2020 - 03:31 PM.


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You don't seem to be talking about Morphs, which are sliders exposed by either CBBE or CBBE 3BBB.  I'm pretty sure that the Body Scales sliders are exposed by XPMSE.  I started to attempt to verify this by digging into RaceMenu's data files... but then I discovered that I don't know where RaceMenu stores these configured sliders and couldn't find them in a brief search.

Wherever they come from, aside from weapon scaling,  they definitely morph the body. I use them on my player and on my followers, and a few random NPCs I've adjusted,  as a third tier refinement.  (Bodyslide - 1, racemenu CBBE/CBBE-3BBB/BHUNP - 2, racemenu Bodyscales - 3)

 

Body scales sliders seem to work on any editable character, be they player, follower or random NPC, at least on my game. They include a variety of body-part adjustments, from breast size sag and angle, to finger length, spine length, rib cage width, lower leg lenght, etc etc. 



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I think it's likely that @LilyTepes needs to reinstall XPMSE to restore these sliders.  There's a script missing that creates them.



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I think it's likely that @LilyTepes needs to reinstall XPMSE to restore these sliders.  There's a script missing that creates them.

 

Ah... that makes sense. I was thinking you meant the XMPSSE ***MCM*** not the actual skeleton. 

 

Anjenthedog has a "DOH!" moment...   :wink:



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yeah i was talking about the actual body parts sliders or skeleton sliders as the body morph page has but body scales have options for hands too and other body parts or skeleton parts that body morph doesnt have..

I mean it does have some options for the muscles of the hands but not the lenght of the hand or the specific parts of the hand and the legs and cant say less for the other parts like more bones for her entire body except for the head 

 

about the bow's arrow position on bow at some point i was thinking it may be Pretty combat animations   or archery gameplay overhaul but no.. its something else.. a mod that change the 1st person view weapon draw. but cant figure what is.. ill have to check them again one by one

 

anyway ty all for the answers, ill reinstall the skeleton mod and ill reply with the results


 


Edited by LilyTepes, 17 September 2020 - 01:01 AM.


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One more thing to consider is using BodySlide to create a custom variant body that "embodies" the morphology you want "baked right in" and thus won't require any Morphs twiddling in RaceMenu except for extreme edge cases.  Even I've managed to do it (finally), and I will never again rely on a stock body mesh or even someone else's BodySlide mesh preset.  It's my fantasy, step aside!






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