OldBoyDemon Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Hello, Looking for some help. I recently reinstalled Skyrim SE, and along with it, I tried to reinstall a mod list from a previous save. I managed to get back all but two mods. The two mods in question were ELFX - Exteriors.esp and VanillaWaterFix.esp. I cannot for the life of me find out what mod VanillaWaterFix.esp is from, and ELFX - Exteriors.esp conflicts with Lanterns of Skyrim II, even though I previously had both installed on this save with no problems. So, I decided to leave them out, and the game loads fine. The problem however, is if I try to fast travel anywhere, or travel to another area, the game will CTD before leaving the loading screen. After trying numerous solutions, I decided that I'd just try a new save. Unfortunately, the problem persists on a new save, so I'm at a loss for how to fix it. Here is my mod list sorted by LOOT: 0 0 Skyrim.esm1 1 Update.esm2 2 Dawnguard.esm3 3 HearthFires.esm4 4 Dragonborn.esm5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp6 6 WhiterunHoldForest.esp7 7 Lanterns Of Skyrim II.esm254 FE 0 RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm254 FE 1 Ecotone Dual Sheath.esl8 8 SkyUI_SE.esp9 9 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp10 a Vivid WeathersSE.esp11 b EnhancedLightsandFX.esp12 c LoS II - Tamriel Master Lights.esp254 FE 2 ELFX Fixes Ragged Flagon Fix.esp13 d Witcher 3 Yennefer and Ciri armor SMP SE.esp14 e Witcher 3 Yennefer and Ciri armor SE.esp15 f The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp16 10 CBBE.esp17 11 Sovereign's Slayer Armor SE.esp18 12 Holiday Gift Hairdos.esp19 13 HearthfireMultiKid.esp254 FE 3 LessDragons10.esp20 14 RaceMenu.esp21 15 RaceMenuPlugin.esp22 16 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp23 17 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp24 18 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp25 19 SmoothShores.esp26 1a Cutting Room Floor.esp27 1b Eli_Breezehome.esp28 1c ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp254 FE 4 Qw_ISC_CRF Patch.esp29 1d SkyHUD.esp30 1e VioLens SE.esp31 1f BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp254 FE 5 Qw_BarenziahQuestMarkers_USSEP Patch.esp32 20 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp33 21 ImperialSoldiersEscortFix.esp34 22 Book Covers Skyrim.esp254 FE 6 Qw_BookCoversSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp35 23 UnreadBooksGlow.esp36 24 Realistic-Voice.esp37 25 NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp38 26 AutoHideAmmo.esp39 27 Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp40 28 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp41 29 Point The Way.esp42 2a AK Northern Star Retreat MB.esp43 2b Run For Your Lives.esp44 2c Inigo.esp45 2d Vivid Weathers SE - Winter.esp46 2e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp47 2f Runandwalkpaces.esp48 30 FNIS.esp49 31 Backshields.esp254 FE 7 HD Lods SSE.esp50 32 Footprints.esp51 33 sandboxcylinderheight.esp52 34 Serana Renewal.esp53 35 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp54 36 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp55 37 Immersive Weapons.esp56 38 Bijin Warmaidens.esp57 39 Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp254 FE 8 LoS II TML - Guard Armor Replacer patch.esp58 3a Unique Uniques.esp59 3b Arcanum.esp60 3c Immersive Patrols II.esp61 3d flaho_shi_eagles_nest_ENG.esp62 3e WHF-Elysium-Patch.esp63 3f DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp64 40 ABT SE - Kevkas All-in-One.esp254 FE 9 LoS II - Eli's Breezehome patch.esp65 41 ElysiumEstate.esp66 42 Stalneisti and Staleldur.esp67 43 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp68 44 HoldBorderBanners.esp69 45 Nordic Wanderer.esp254 FE a LoS II - SMIM patch.esp70 46 shadowscaleset.esp71 47 LazyHeels.esp72 48 TrueHel.esp73 49 My Home Is Your Home.esp74 4a Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp75 4b Daedric Reaper Armor.esp76 4c ABT SE - Faster Arrows Improved.esp77 4d SeeEnchs.esp78 4e IcePenguinWorldMap.esp79 4f MannequinStayPut.esp80 50 KS Hairdo's.esp81 51 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp82 52 TorchesCastShadows.esp83 53 MaleClericArmorHeavy.esp254 FE b Smoking Torches And Candles.esp84 54 DCR_KingCrusaderMegaPack_SSE.esp85 55 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp254 FE c VividWaterFix.esp86 56 Bijin Wives.esp87 57 Bijin NPCs.esp88 58 CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp89 59 LazyBodyEdit.esp254 FE d Demon Hunter Armor.esp90 5a SimpleOutfitManager.esp91 5b KS Jewelry.esp92 5c NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp93 5d TheEyesOfBeauty.esp94 5e Ranger Outfit.esp95 5f UIExtensions.esp96 60 AddItemMenuSE.esp97 61 Ecotone Dual Sheath Patch.esp98 62 UNP Leather Clothes.esp99 63 RaceMenuHH.esp100 64 KhajiitsStealToo.esp101 65 XPMSE.esp254 FE e AIO SE TATTOOS.esp102 66 FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp103 67 Jewelry limiter.esp104 68 Headtracking.esp105 69 CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp106 6a Light Elven Armor.esp107 6b DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp108 6c Osare GothicLolita.esp109 6d Gwelda Witch.esp110 6e CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp111 6f Blackened Steel Armor and weapon set.esp112 70 Celes Rogue Armor CBBE.esp113 71 Celes Rogue Armor UNP.esp114 72 Crimson Blood Armor.esp115 73 DX Druid Armor.esp116 74 Lupine_YyvengarBodypaints.esp117 75 dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp118 76 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp119 77 ABT SE - Faster Bolts Improved.esp120 78 Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp121 79 dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp122 7a ABT SE - Merchants Arrows.esp123 7b ABT SE - Progressive Damage.esp124 7c ABT SE - Recover Ammo.esp125 7d ABT SE - Renamed Bolts.esp126 7e 50 More Perk Points.esp127 7f Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp128 80 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp129 81 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp130 82 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp131 83 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp132 84 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp133 85 RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp134 86 Serana Dialogue Edit.esp135 87 Open Cities Skyrim.esp254 FE f ELFX Fixes.esp136 88 Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp137 89 Eli_Breezehome-Open_Cities-Patch.esp138 8a RealisticWaterTwo.esp254 FE 10 RealisticWaterTwo - ELFX Patch.esp I have tried using ReSaver from FallrimTools, BethINI recommended tweaks, disabling autosave on fast travel, resetting cells, and (as mentioned above) a completely new save. Issue occurs when trying to fast travel anywhere, not just for one specific place. If anyone has anyone advice for how to fix it, I'm all ears. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgenk1974 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 vanilla water fix is appereantly for the water at any forge, so it should be not a problem to use that.However i see you do have a vivid water fix AND realistic water 2, those are not compatible.. choose one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjenthedog Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 129 live another life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBoyDemon Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 Hi, thanks for your reply. I tried disabling VividWaterFix.esp and it didn't make a difference unfortunately. Also, that mod is from https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/10808 which explicitly states in the description that it's highly compatible with Realistic Water Two, so I do not think that is the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBoyDemon Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 Also, tried disabling Live Another Life, didn't change anything I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjenthedog Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 fwiw, if you disable LAL, you'll need to start a new game. When I ran into problems with it, I was unable to simply disable the mod and continue with the play vector. I had to start a new "vanilla" game (ie Helgen start) If you haven't tried creating a new game that's what I'd suggest. If you happen to have made racemenu changes to your character ion the problematic game, make sure to save them to a preset, prior to creating the new game so you can reapply to your character after starting your new game...(helpful but not necessary) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBoyDemon Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 Unfortunately, disabling Live Another Life and attempting to start a new game results in an instant crash. Starting a new game with Live Another Life installed still allows me to start and load into the cell. Earlier I had started a new game with this mod, and it spawned me in Solstheim, no issues at first. As soon as I attempted to fast travel back to Skyrim, I got the CTD again. My current character is in Fort Dawnguard, but attempting to re-enter Skyrim has the same result. I'm starting to suspect it's not a fast travel/loading issue, and is actually a problem with a mod that alters the Skyrim land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjenthedog Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Unfortunately, disabling Live Another Life and attempting to start a new game results in an instant crash.FWIW, try uninstalling it. I used to be under the impression that disabling a MOD (not any associated plugin btw) was equivalent to uninstalling a mod, but I've read a few posts during the past couple months in which the commenters suggested that disabling a mod doesn't remove all the changes made by that mod. It wouldn't surprise me at all in the case of LAL for this to be true. In my case, after starting a new game in Solstheim, leveling up to around level 15, and then experiencing CTD after CTD when I attempted to leave the island by any and all means (fast travel, boat, even some mod that ostensibly provides a foot path back...heck I even foolishly tried swimming back), then perplexidly giving up on that start and trying new starts in various places around the mainland and crashing whenever I approached cities, (I was also unable to fast travel while *on the mainland, btw) I uninstalled it. Form there out the game worked just fine. Granted, I had to do Helgen and the wagon ride, but in retrospect, it's far less annoying than navigating the problems that LAL produced for me. That the game instantly crashes on a *new game* when removing it from the game should alarm any sensible player. In any case, whatever you do, good luck and best wishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBoyDemon Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 Just tried uninstalling it. Sadly got the same result when attempting a new game. I definitely think it's something that alters the Skyrim worldspace causing the CTD, although I've tried disabling Open Cities and Whiterun Forest with no luck either, so I'm at a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjenthedog Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Hmmm MO2 or vortex? I use Vortex myself. The load order is automatically checked and validated prior to deployment to resolve any issues. Can't say in MO2. I am alluding to the possibility that something in your load order is causing a crash because a dependency isn't being loaded prior to a mod that requires it, since a new game will of course systematically load all the "new" mods as it encounters them in the load list. (If you see where I'm going) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts