primaltickler Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Please bear with me on this, it gets complicated:) I am fairly new to mods. I have used minor ones, installing them with obmm, but that's about it. After becoming tired of Skyrim, I decided to go back to Oblivion, but go all out with mods to see if I get results like some of the pretty fantastic screen shots I see (or something vaguely similar). So - I completely removed Oblivion and everything related and decided to start from scratch. first of all, here's what I'm using (not great, I know, that's why I'm modding Oblivion and not Skyrim) - amd athlon II x2 250 3 Ghz, 3.5gig ramati Radeon HD 4670 1Gigwindows xpOblivion/Shivering Isles/ Knights of the Nine GOTY retail purchase When I first installed Oblivion this morning, it worked fine (been at this 21 hours and counting). Following recommendations in a guide to set myself up for large texture and weather / landscape enhancements I d/led and installed OBMM (which I am certain is not the issue), OBSE 0020, OBGEv3, Wrye Bash (solely to install OBGE per the read me file) and BOSS. Before booting the game after these installations I also d/l'ed and installed the unofficial patches for Oblivion and SI. I forgot to launch through OBSE. The launch page came up, but when I tried to play the game immediately crashed. When I tried to do it through OBSE it didn't even get that far - just a flash of black then the option to send a report to Microsoft. No error messages, just a "Oblivion has a problem and needs to close." At this point I had no omod files in obmm. I went back and double checked that I had followed the readme files correctly in each program, and d/l'ed the appropriate necessities for each. I could find nothing missing. I have uninstalled / reinstalled Oblivion by disc 5 times since then with no success. I have uninstalled and reinstalled various combinations of the above programs without success. I even wasted an hour trying to figure out the 1.2.0.416 patch for Oblivion / SI so it will be compatible with the current OBSE (turns out it already was - at least according to the readme file installed from the disc). I am by no means a technical person, but I do have some experience modding and tweaking other (older) games and am capable of following directions, and even doing a little reasoning here and there - but I am at a total loss with this. So, here's my question! Can anyone please point me in the right direction? This is a mess, and I don't expect anyone to figure it out but myself, but I need a clue. Are two of these programs incompatible? Do they need to be installed in a particular order? Should I install patches with OBMM, before installing the other stuff? I don't really want to mess with OBGE or Wrye at all, but the mods I am interested in need OBGE and apparently OBGE needs Wrye Bash - is there a simpler way around that? Any information specific to this issue will help - as I mentioned, been at this 21 hours already today, and although I find tons of information on each component of my problem (and everything seems to check out), I'm not seeing anyone with a game that simply won't launch with all of them installed. I also researched this for a couple days before beginning, so I am really shocked it is this much of a hassle. Okay, thank you, sorry, I'm long winded - if I am missing any pertinent info please let me know and I'll try to provide in the morning. Not tonight. I'm turning this POS off, drinking a much needed beer and going to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Bbens Complete Uninstall/Reinstall for Oblivion http://s1.zetaboards.com/bbenlibrary/topic/4308533/1/#new This is from my Troubleshooting blog - here: http://s1.zetaboards.com/bbenlibrary/topic/4751769/1/#new Then DO NOT try to run any mods or DLCs OR OBGE or OBSE until after you have started the game and made the first save - THEN, install Shivering Isles and make another save, THEN, if you need a patch install it and make another save. Then install OBSE and make another save (are you starting to see a pattern yet? :wink: ) - After all of that you should be ready to start adding the other DLCs and mods , one at a time with a test between each one. All of those saves can be made one right after another as soon as the game drops you into the cell. Then after you complete the tutorial dungeon, - just before you exit the sewer (you will see the light at the end of the tunnel - and hopefully it isn't an oncoming train) make another save - this is your backup that allows you to start over without going all the way through the tutorial again :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primaltickler Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Thank you very much for the thorough, expedient reply. That is exactly what I feared, and what I was going to spend my Sunday doing had no one replied to this post. I should have known better than to blindly follow what worked for another - too many changes and updates floating around out there. Hopefully I will post again this evening with a stable and ready to mod out Oblivion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primaltickler Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Thank you again, bben. I did it the smart way this time, adding each individually and checking gameplay inbetween, and so far so good. I even managed to get qps3redimized to go on the first try! I think using ccleaner recommended in your install page was the difference, because otherwise I did everything the same (except monitor gameplay step by step). Ccleaner found years worth of junk and opened up a few gig of memory. There had to be something in there mucking up my work. I am more book savvy than computer savvy, so I included another step that I find very helpful - I created a text file to keep with my mods and document the save #, what was installed, and briefly describe any problems. So far the only negative was some hummingbird stuttering with qps3r, but that was at maximum video settings. I took the resolution down a notch and it disappeared. I am ecstatic my weekend has not been a total waste! lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executor64 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I got a serious headace over my reinstallement procedure... apparently, some error/bad instal has managed to remove oblivion.exe without me knowing...by the time i decided to uninstall oblivion, it was a bloody mess of mods/data/addons and whatnot AND (with exe nowhere to be found) add/remove programs SHOWS oblivion but when clicked uninstal does NOTHING...I got bloody furious and was fed up with it, so I went for the idiot move - uninstal manualy. Immediatley I realised this was stupid, as when i run the Oblivion installation, it shows "uninstall" and "play" option, as if i didnt have it removed...I jumped to the most rational solution - "Revo uninstall" software, wich apparently does registry uninstalls, invisible files ect. and VOILA installation now worksBUT, when i run oblivion after installation, it shows "there has been an error oblivion has stopped working" wich is WHY i uninstalled oblivion in the first place my god, i have never thrown so many swears and shouts at my monitor as then *headace any ideas before i attempt another Revo uninstall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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