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CTD When Entering Nordic Ruins and When Exploring Worldspace


CreepyEduardo

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so, this is a relatively new issue i've been having

here's some context. i've been modding Skyrim since 2012. not too long ago, the external hard drive that i had installed Skyrim SE on had died. i reinstalled SSE on another external hard drive and all of the mods i used (plus a few new ones)

previous installation had typically instability issues, but nothing too serious. current installation has a new problem, however. as the title says, every time i enter a Nordic Tomb/Ruin or whenever i go off the beaten path and go into the wilds of Skyrim, i get a CTD. i've done a clean install of the game and downloaded files that were supposed fixes (including engine fixes and bug fixes). i've even turned off a few of the newer mods to see if that would help. file verification does nothing. however, the game still CTDs on both new and old saves whenever i enter tombs such as Bleak Falls Barrow or Ogmund's Tomb (modded). i would greatly appreciate any help anyone can give, since i'm at a complete loss for what to do

below you'll find my current load order (247 mods):

  1. Skyrim.esm
  2. Update.esm
  3. Dawnguard.esm
  4. HearthFires.esm
  5. Dragonborn.esm
  6. Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
  7. Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  8. FISS.esp
  9. ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
  10. arnima.esm
  11. RaceCompatibilty.esm
  12. Coldhaven.esm
  13. EnhancedAIFramework.esm
  14. OrganicFactions.esm
  15. DeathExpressions.esl
  16. SkyUI_SE.esp
  17. Reverb and Ambience Overhaul - Skyrim.esp
  18. Laundry.esp
  19. Immersive Movement.esp
  20. Mortal Enemies.esp
  21. SIMM-SE-Merged-All.esp
  22. Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
  23. dD - No Spinning Death Animation merged.esp
  24. DIS_Chainmail_Armor.esp
  25. EliteKnightArmor.esp
  26. DIS_Nord_Heavy.esp
  27. TalosHousecarl.esp
  28. DIS_Fur_Armor.esp
  29. ArgonianFins.esp
  30. Beards.esp
  31. HalgarthAdditionalHair.esp
  32. Hirsute Beards.esp
  33. HornsAreForever.esp
  34. NB-Scars.esp
  35. WNB_WeatheredNordicBodypaints.esp
  36. TrueArmor.esp
  37. Rebirth Monster.esp
  38. TouringCarriages.esp
  39. Undeath.esp
  40. Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
  41. Skytoxin.esp
  42. Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
  43. Immersive Encounters.esp
  44. OCW_Obscure's_CollegeOfWinterhold.esp
  45. Book Covers Skyrim.esp
  46. Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
  47. Beasts of Tamriel.esp
  48. mhailbeholder.esp
  49. SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
  50. CrittersAintSnitches.esp
  51. DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
  52. Hellish Hounds.esp
  53. KittaKittyHorses.esp
  54. RealRainSECoT.esp
  55. Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
  56. Character Creation Overhaul.esp
  57. CCO - Diverse Races and Genders.esp
  58. CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
  59. CCO- Oblivion Carry Weights.esp
  60. sandboxcylinderheight.esp
  61. Realistic-Voice.esp
  62. dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
  63. SignatureEquipment.esp
  64. BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
  65. BirdsOfSkyrim.esp
  66. Fort(ified) Dawnguard.esp
  67. Nordic Ruins of Skyrim.esp
  68. Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
  69. Hothtrooper44_WeaponEcksstra.esp
  70. WACF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp
  71. Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
  72. Immersive Weapons.esp
  73. DIS_Replacer.esp
  74. Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp
  75. Holidays.esp
  76. mihailrusticweapons.esp
  77. NordWarUA's Race Armor Expansion.esp
  78. HairsBeastRace - Extended Plus - Replacer.esp
  79. SOTGenesisMod.esp
  80. Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
  81. UltimateCombat.esp
  82. Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp
  83. RealNames - SSE Edition.esp
  84. Immersive Movement - Wildcat Patch.esp
  85. Immersive Movement - Mortal Enemies Patch.esp
  86. ImmersiveSpellLearning.esp
  87. Time Passes.esp
  88. Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp
  89. Personalized Music.esp
  90. Immersive Music.esp
  91. Personalized Music v 6.0.esp
  92. NordWarUA's Vanilla Armor and Weapons Expansion.esp
  93. High Level Enemies.esp
  94. Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp
  95. Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp
  96. EnhancedAtronachs.esp
  97. The Wizard Warrior.esp
  98. SkyrimSewers.esp
  99. Run For Your Lives.esp
  100. Cloaks.esp
  101. Prvti_HeavyArmory.esp
  102. DIS_Heavy_Legion.esp
  103. DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp
  104. OBIS SE.esp
  105. Common Clothes and Armors.esp
  106. Historical Weapons.esp
  107. FurSet by keung.esp
  108. imp_helm_legendary.esp
  109. OBIS Loot SE.esp
  110. DIS_RealisticArmor.esp
  111. Cloaks - USEEP Patch.esp
  112. High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp
  113. Inigo.esp
  114. Tomebound.esp
  115. mihaillegion.esp
  116. UniqueBorderGates-All.esp
  117. Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp
  118. mihailminotaur.esp
  119. Fulcimentum - More Staves and Wands of Skyrim.esp
  120. Arcanum.esp
  121. kohnarik_accoutrements.esp
  122. Bring Out Your Dead.esp
  123. BosmerArmorMATY743.esp
  124. Immersive Patrols II.esp
  125. ReachMageIS.esp
  126. mihaildaedroth.esp
  127. SofiaFollower.esp
  128. mihailclannfear.esp
  129. DiverseWerewolvesCollection.esp
  130. Phendrix Magic World.esp
  131. OCW_WACF_FEPatch.esp
  132. OCW_BCS_FEPatch.esp
  133. Master of Disguise - Special Edition.esp
  134. DIS_Armor_Factions.esp
  135. DawnguardArsenal.esp
  136. Triumvirate - Mage Archetypes.esp
  137. Solitude TempleFrescoes.esp
  138. OCW_ACE_FEPatch.esp
  139. Black Mage Armor.esp
  140. CommonClothes.esp
  141. Skyrim Unbound - Patch - GDO.esp
  142. Brigandage.esp
  143. EMages helmets pack.esp
  144. SeranaDialogAddon.esp
  145. Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
  146. mihailmimic.esp
  147. mihailvampirelords.esp
  148. Tomebound - Ordinator Patch.esp
  149. Tomeboud - Immersive Sounds Patch.esp
  150. RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
  151. armorFlesh.esp
  152. RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp
  153. Darkend.esp
  154. WendigoAndHowler.esp
  155. mihailfleshgolem.esp
  156. High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp
  157. SPTDiverseGuards.esp
  158. Killable Children.esp
  159. KC - USLEEP Patch.esp
  160. Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp
  161. Animallica.esp
  162. DSerCombatGameplayOverhaul.esp
  163. OCW_BMA_FEPatch.esp
  164. OCW_A-aNoM_FEPatch.esp
  165. notice board.esp
  166. ForgottenCity.esp
  167. Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp
  168. Missives.esp
  169. mihailogrim.esp
  170. mihaillich.esp
  171. The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
  172. Snow ThroatCave.esp
  173. Ritual Armor of Boethiah.esp
  174. OgmundEngelmannWindcaller.esp
  175. Haem Projects Goblands.esp
  176. Lucien.esp
  177. Missives - Beyond Reach.esp
  178. Undeath Immersive Lichdom.esp
  179. AMatterOfTime.esp
  180. RaceMenu.esp
  181. RaceMenuPlugin.esp
  182. SkyHUD.esp
  183. dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
  184. EBT - IC PATCH.esp
  185. dD - Reduced Wound Size.esp
  186. Footprints.esp
  187. RegentSword.esp
  188. SkallagrimsArmory.esp
  189. AlbionSwords.esp
  190. BBLorkhanMoonlightGreatsword.esp
  191. Radzig - Johnskyrim.esp
  192. Realistic Melee Range.esp
  193. PrvtlRoyalArmory.esp
  194. Valkyrja.esp
  195. PaladinArtifactsAndArmor.esp
  196. Waking Nightmare.esp
  197. ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp
  198. Revenants of the Forbidden Order.esp
  199. Ravengate.esp
  200. KynesBreathWeaponsPack.esp
  201. OCW_IL_FEPatch.esp
  202. Hedge Mage Armor.esp
  203. Dr_Bandolier.esp
  204. PathOfTheAntiMage.esp
  205. DestructibleDesplayCases.esp
  206. Kynreeve Armor.esp
  207. Public Executions.esp
  208. OCW_MusicPatch_IM.esp
  209. OCW_KA_FEPatch.esp
  210. FGCWingedSpear.esp
  211. mihailtoxindoctoroutfit.esp
  212. Zikrou Swords.esp
  213. Baltimore Weapons.esp
  214. Unique Uniques.esp
  215. Souls_Quick_Menu.esp
  216. ForswornArmorRedux.esp
  217. HothFollower.esp
  218. Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
  219. MLU.esp
  220. SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp
  221. SoS_CoT_Patch.esp
  222. Growl - Werebeasts of Skyrim.esp
  223. OCW_SoS_FEPatch.esp
  224. OCW_MLU_FEPatch.esp
  225. ZIA_Complete Pack.esp
  226. Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp
  227. Immersive Jewelry.esp
  228. Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
  229. ImmersivePerformance_Ordinator.esp
  230. Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
  231. Tomebound - Sacrosanct Patch.esp
  232. Better Vampires.esp
  233. Tomebound - Better Vampires Patch.esp
  234. Add Sacrosanct Spells to BV.esp
  235. Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
  236. Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
  237. Skyrim Unbound.esp
  238. Skyrim Unbound - Patch - Sofia Follower.esp
  239. Skyrim Unbound - Patch - WACCF.esp
  240. SoS_ImmersiveCitizens_Patch.esp
  241. Skyrim Unbound - Patch - Immersive Citizens.esp
  242. Skyrim Unbound - Patch - RDO.esp
  243. Immersive Citizens - TC patch.esp
  244. nwsFollowerFramework.esp
  245. OCW_CellSettings.esp
  246. WACF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp
  247. Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

as well as these mods, i'm also using the Re-Enganged ENB preset

again, any help is greatly appreciated

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if your running Racemenu, ensure to update to latest version, as previous version introduced a bug regarding animation behavior graphs for NPC's, Draugr being 1 of them, which results in a CTD when encoutering said NPCs,

 

i mention this as you specified you crash in draugr locations, as such could mean draugr are causing the CTD, also you mention in the wilds which could also be were skeletons are encountered, i assume said animation graph bug also affects them.

 

so yea try updating Racemenu to current version, and see if that solves the problem

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