My Game keeps crashing at the same point even though its running stable beforehand

[Timospass]

Hey Guys

 

I started a new modded playthrough with oblivion today but my game keeps crashing at the point in the imperial prison when you are attacked by the rats for the first time.

I deinstalled every mod which I could suspect had anything to do with the issue but to no avail. My PC should handle modded oblivion with no issues and I doubt that its an VRam issue because the crash happens always at an specific point. All my mods are up to date and cleaned with tes4edit and up to that moment the games seems to run with no issues.

Im using ModOrganizer and sort the mods with LOOT

I really hope anyone has an idea where the problem could stem from. Thanks in advance.

 

Here is my loadorder :

Oblivion.esm

All Natural Base.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Knights - Revelation.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

JCN_AV Uncap.esp

QZ Easy Menus.esp

Display Stats.esp

Enemy Weapons dont drop.esp

RefScope.esp

UnidirectionalAttack.esp

Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

Better Dungeons.esp

OOOExtended.esp

OOOShiveringIsles.esp

ElsweyrAnequina.esp

ReclaimSancreTor.esp

Oblivion Uncut.esp

Legion-occupied Forts.esp

Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp

All Natural.esp

road+bridges.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp

Kragenir's Death Quest.esp

Knights - Revelation.esp

RoadLights.esp

MannimarcoRevisited.esp

DialogTweaks.esp

Oblivion Uncut - OOO Adaptation.esp

Immersive Interiors - Imperial City.esp

All Natural - SI.esp

All Natural Real Lights - Better Cities IC Patch.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp

Banes Guilds UnitedOOO.esp

Falling Leaves.esp

Immersive Interiors.esp

TalosBridgeGateHouse.esp

Immersive Interiors - Landscape Addon.esp

Immersive Interiors - Bravil.esp

ULS OblivionUncut-AncientYews patch.esp

Kragenir'sDeathQuest-RST Patch.esp

ExpandedGreetings.esp

KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp

KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp

MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp

MannimarcoWardrobeChest.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Knights of Nine.esp

OOOExtendedArcheryPatch.esp

Weapon Improvement Project.esp

OOOSIArcheryPatch.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

Stav_ImperialDragon.esp

GMArcheryRebalance.esp

Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp

LINK.esp

DynamicMusicSystem.esp

BetterSaves.esp

Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp

Unleveled Game Rewards - Base Game + DLC.esp

Unleveled Game Rewards - Base Game.esp

Unleveled Game Rewards - DLCBattlehorn.esp

Unleveled Game Rewards - DLCKnights.esp

Unleveled Game Rewards - DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

Unleveled Game Rewards - DLCShivering Isles.esp

Unleveled Game Rewards - DLCVileLair.esp

Symphony of Violence.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp

Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp

DLCBattlehorn-OblivionUncut Patch.esp

OblivionUncut-ElsweyrAnequina Patch.esp

ULE OblivionUncut-ChorrolHinterland BC6 patch.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp

LootMenu.esp

Unique Landscapes.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

xulEntiusGorge.esp

ULS OblivionUncut-EntiusGorge patch.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

ULE OblivionUncut-ChorrolHinterland patch.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

Falling Leaves - UL LushWoodlands Patch.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRollingHills_EV.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulSnowdale.esp

xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp

xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp

xulTheEasternPeaks.esp

xulJerallGlacier.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

kuerteeCleanUp.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp

[Pellape]

Oblivion is the most buggy game Bethesda made... ;)

 

There are a couple of more fix mods you could try.

• EngineBugFixes
• Performance Sound
• CTD and Memory patch ENBoost
  • ENB 0.259

If none of those helps, you have to turn off more mods to find the one(s) that is causing the problems

[Timospass]

I finally found the solution.

The newest versions of Oblivion XP and Northern UI need a patch to work together without issues.

This patch seems to be incompatible with LootMenu. So after disabling LootMenu and LootMenu - NorthernUI edition I could finally advance.

It was not the fight with the rats which crashed the game, it was the LootMenu that tried to load after I killed one.

[Pellape]

Very good you did find this out for sure. I been tempted to test LOOT Menu but avoided it so far. :)

 

Have you considered to use Ultimate Leveling instead of Oblivion XP, made by Maskar as you do use MOO? It also have the ability to show how much exp your pets get for each kill they do if you tamed and use one that is and he updated it just 6 months ago and he is still active for sure. You either choose to gain exp similar to Oblivion XP or by skills like Realistic Leveling and I prefer skills as I did use Realistic leveling, which works great but it is old and as I think Maskar is a genious I use his one and it works great.

[Timospass]

I didn't know about that mod, I always used Oblivion XP in my modded playthroughs so im kinda used to it. But if Ultimate Leveling also has an exp option, its maybe time to test something new.

 

After fixing the LootMenu issue my game was still really unstable, I didnt realize that Oblivion Stutter Remover was outdated and really bad when used on Windows 10, I cant really recommend using the Stutter remover and instead using other stability mods, like the ones you recommended.

[Oblivionaddicted]

Oblivion is the most buggy game Bethesda made... :wink:

Morrowind is worse.

[Pellape]

Well not my Morrowind as it runs like a bloody clock and I did play it to lvl 140 until I got tired of it just 6 months ago and it didn't crash, not often what I can recall.

 

The backside with Morrowind is that you cannot play a mod and edit it, continue playing, as we can in Oblivion, as then you screw it up and things go missing with gaps and stuff like that or doors disappears.

[Oblivionaddicted]

 

The backside with Morrowind is that you cannot play a mod and edit it, continue playing, as we can in Oblivion, as then you screw it up and things go missing with gaps and stuff like that or doors disappears.

You can, at least to a certain extent. Record the changes in Wrye mash and if you don't get any warnign when you load your save you should be fine.

 

I've played while I was building my mods between 2 game sessions and it didn't mess up my game with this habit.

 

Morrowind was destitutely made technically speaking, when I want to use a mod that was not made in my linguistic version and that edits a lot of interior cells and contains a lot of teleportation scripts the installation oftenly turns into an ordeal without any guarantee it's worth the try.

 

 

Timospass -> Take a look at MessageLogger.

[Pellape]

I reread this thread and I did missed what you wrote about the Stutter Remover. It do have benefits as I use it at my game comp but not at my GF's comp. I installed it when I tried MMM as it did cause loads of lags at some points but I really do not need it when I use MOO and WAC instead of MMM, so I will remove it too. My house mod do lag and I can move easier inside it when I play at my GF's comp than I can at my game comp as there it feels like walking in syrup. I will also most likely remove it.

Edited January 19, 2021 by Pellape