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Matsukaze9090

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So, for some reason, some npcs get raptured. By that I mean they literally vanish, sometimes right in front of my eyes. I have Stewie Tweaks, NVSE NX, NVTF, and the Heap Replacer on.

 

EDIT: To clarify, the npcs that vanish are from everywhere except the base game, but including DLCs. And even then I'm not sure about the base game. Also, I tried teleporting to the vanished NPCs, ended up in a different cell than I previously was. Can't say what it was because the game froze before loading it.

 

EDIT 2: Did some more testing, and managed to teleport to the NPCs. On the cell, a message appears about me dying if I approach a camp, and then I immediately die. This is extremely similar to a bug where I was teleported to this place without warning and killed immediately, so I assume they're the same. After I die, the game freezes. I'll try to test it further and take a screenshot of the message.

 

EDIT 3: Some more testing, activated godmode to not die, game still freezes anyway. Managed to print the messages and console errors. According to console, the place I and the NPCs get teleported to is beyond the world boundaries, which is corroborated by visual evidence.

 

Screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/HeEAB9s

 

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Edited by Matsukaze9090, 22 January 2021 - 02:14 PM.


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JimboUK

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Are you using the Mod Limit Fix? if not that number of esp's is going to cause all sorts of problems.

 

FNV Mod Limit Fix at Fallout New Vegas - mods and community (nexusmods.com)



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Are you using the Mod Limit Fix? if not that number of esp's is going to cause all sorts of problems.

 

FNV Mod Limit Fix at Fallout New Vegas - mods and community (nexusmods.com)

 

Yup. It comes with the Frontier, but I had it installed even before it came out.

 

Edit: If it helps, here's the list of mods I installed before this bug started.
 

+Frontier Hotfix 0.3.8
+Animated Prostitution -WIP -
-SexoutSexLite
-SexoutCompanions
-sexoutVanessa
-SexoutLoversBed
-SexoutStraponSex
-SexoutWillowV4.4
+NVBIII Version .954 GNOME
+Realistic Damage NV DLC.04
+Pip-Boy 2500A v2 (Armband)
-Better Booze - Fallout New Vegas
-SexoutFadeToBlack
-SexoutSex
-SmallerTalk
-SexoutNG - Bodies
-Drug Visuals
-SexoutCommonResources-Data 2020-03-05
-SexoutCommonResources
+NVSE Extender
-SexoutNG - Data
-SexoutNG - Core
+tyfasterwalk
-Hotfix 0.2.6 with NVTF update
+Control Hardcore
-Children of the Wasteland 2
+RS2 M60 - Hitman OR Vanilla Animation Version
+Simply Uncut Merge
-Frontier Hotfix 0.0.4
+MCM BugFix 2
-Alternative Repairing
-DT Mutliplier and DR Adder
-Simply Uncut - New Vegas - The March West
-Simply Uncut - New Vegas DLC Dialogue Patch
-Simply Uncut - New Vegas - Little Dead Riding Hood Enabler
+JIP Selective-Fire
+IMPACT Hotfix
+IMPACT - The Gaming Rig
+Reload Animation Fix
+Simply Uncut - New Vegas V.2.0 Hotfix
+Simply Uncut - New Vegas V.2.0 - Level Up
+Cyberware 2281 - TTW Patch
+Cyberware 2281
+Mojave Wildlife - Vanilla Version
-Fallout 3 Economy
+Uncut Wasteland. Outside Bets
+More Mojave New Vegas Bounties I Patch
+MoreMojave
+Mojave Raiders - The Living Desert Patch
+Mojave Raiders
-Qucik Grenade Hotkey
+Just Mods Assorted
+Automatic Weapons Fix
+Stewie Tweaks

Order is descending from latest, + Indicates mods that are installed in the game, - indicates mods that are in MO but not in game

Also, from Control Hardcore onwards, they were installed after the bug was already present.


Edited by Matsukaze9090, 23 January 2021 - 03:09 AM.


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Simply because it is so new and has some stability problems reported, I would start by suspecting "The Frontier".  Otherwise, the combination of TTW and Frontier is so new, I wouldn't expect anyone else to have a clue.  So my suggestion would be to follow the guidance in the 'Mod Conflict Isolation' section of the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" article.  (One of the perils of having a "jam packed mod list".)

 

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According to comments in the Frontier page and my snooping around in xEdit, The Frontier is definitely the culprit. Shame, it's such a good mod so far.



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Well reporting to that team as to how to reproduce the problem is the only way they will be able to fix it.  If they don't know about or can't reproduce a problem then they can't fix it or it wouldn't be there in the first place.  That's how mods get better.

 

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