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Hello im Dutcher,

i heve played alot oblivion and skyrim sins the day they both came out. never vanilla, always modded.

therefore i heve encounterd a lot of incompatability problems, things to fix, special instalations, etc

and i always figure it out on my own bij searching and reading through posts

but now i heve a problem i cant fix somehow and nobody seems to heve the same issiu, coz there are no topics about it.

 

Now to the problem

i get CTD's to the desktop when the trading tab opens with specific merchants like: Farengar Secret-Fire, Fethis Alor (dragonborn), Belethor, etc

the remarkable thing is that it are only general goods merchants and spell merchants by who i seem to crash.

all the other merchants just function well.

making a new save makes no diference.

 

Using:

Boss

TES5edit

Wrye Bash

 

my specs are:

Windows 7 home premium 64 bits

AMD Phenom II x4 945 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.0Ghz

4096MB RAM Memory

AMD Radeon HD 6900 series 3698 MB

 

My load order:

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1
SPIKE.esm=1
vinis_food_and_rest.esm=1
Solstheim Climate Overhaul.esm=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp=1
skyradio.esp=1
SoundPropagationOverhaul.esp=1
Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp=1
fantasy music overhaul.esp=1
fantasy music overhaul - no vanilla music.esp=1
fantasy music overhaul - unique town music.esp=1
TradeBarter.esp=1
Cart in Each Big Town.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1
JBS_banking_redux.esp=1
JK Crafting Breakdown.esp=1
UseableSawmill.esp=1
Convenient Horses.esp=1
IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp=0
SkyRealism - Simple Save System - 5 min.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
iHUD.esp=1
BDYEB.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1
CMHood (Ashlander).esp=1
Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN.esp=1
DragonBoneEbonsteel.esp=1
Fountain Guard Armor MATY743.esp=1
Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp=1
nordicrangerarmor.esp=1
Northman Armours - Credo.esp=1
Pauldrons.esp=1
Ritual Armor of Boethiah.esp=1
SamuraiArmor.esp=1
ScoutArmor.esp=1
Shadow Ranger Gear by Natterforme.esp=1
TH3WICK3D1-EzioArmor.esp=1
TorchArrow-Dawnguard.esp=1
warchiefarmor.esp=1
ward of faith.esp=1
Requiem.esp=1
Requiem - Easier Bartering.esp=1
Requiem - No Heartbeat.esp=1
Requiem - No Overencumbered Messages.esp=0
Requiem - No Smithing Books Required for Perks.esp=1
Requiem - No Vampire Tweaks.esp=1
Requiem - TrainUnitsPerLevel10.esp=1
DeadlyDragons.esp=1
AbandonedStronghold - Gash Murug.esp=1
buildablehouse.esp=1
CGSkyHavenReborn.esp=1
Destroy the Thieves Guild.esp=1
flaho_shi_wassersturz.esp=1
HallsOfDovahndor.esp=1
Hunting in Skyrim - No Perks.esp=1
Run For Your Lives.esp=1
SBT Smal1.esp=1
SBT Smal3.esp=1
SBT Smal2.esp=1
Sutvaka2.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
Wyrmstooth.esp=1
UniqueBows.esp=1
Travel By Boat.esp=1
FM - Namaofs Watchtower.esp=1
AgentOfRighteousMight.esp=1
DuelistLongcoatRasta.esp=1
Legionary-Vanguard-Armor-MATY743.esp=1
Dagmar.esp=1
Drex.esp=1
DaggerSounds4Daggers.esp=1
flaho_shi_eagles_nest_ENG.esp=1
SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp=1
Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp=1
BurntCorpse.esp=1
Dawnguard - Join As A Vampire.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
Headtracking.esp=1
Proper Aiming.esp=1
RichMerchants_Less.esp=0
Sneak Tweak.esp=1
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp=1
TorchRadius.esp=1
TwoRings.esp=1
UnlimitedEnchantments.esp=1
wizDynamicThings.esp=1
SkyrimSewers.esp=1
Blackjack.esp=1
Realistic Lighting.esp=0
Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp=0
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp=1
RLO - Adaptive Interiors Vanilla Weathers Patch.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=0
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-4.esp=1
vinis_food_and_rest.esp=1
Better Vampires.esp=1
ToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp=1
BowsElementalFury.esp=1
DeadlyCombat.esp=1
DeadlyCombat_HardcoreDamage.esp=1
DeadlyCombat_NoStaminaChanges.esp=0
Locational Damage.esp=1
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1
ACE BYOG.esp=1
ArcheryDummyXP.esp=1
Skyrim Tycoon - Reloaded.esp=1
ABT - Loot Arrows +100%.esp=0
ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +75%.esp=1
ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +100%.esp=1
ABT - Merchants Arrows +50%.esp=0
ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (Vanilla) +150%.esp=1
ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (Vanilla) +150%.esp=1
ABT - Recover +50% Arrows and Bolts.esp=1
Sneak Tools.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp=1
Spousetocustomhome.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
ClassicClasses.esp=1
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp=1
Waves.esp=1
Requiem - NPC Accuracy +3 Degrees.esp=1
Requiem - Starting Skills 20.esp=1
RLO - Major City Exteriors - No Guard Torches.esp=1
Phenderix Tool - Weapon Edit.esp=1
BloodskalBladeRevamp.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Addon.esp=0
Werewolves Jump Higher.esp=1
DragonSoulConverter.esp=1
SpringtimeForSkyrim.esp=1
chfshImbuedSword.esp=1
Solstheim Climate Overhaul - COT compatibility.esp=1
MeekoHusky.esp=1
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1
SolstheimHouse.esp=1

 

any help or pointers are apriciated :)

 

 

PS: Sorry bad English :$

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most probably it's a conflict: if it's so, start a new game for test with all mods disabled, go to a ctd trader, save and then enable some mod, check... enable other mods check, until you'll find the problem

 

in the worse case could be a corruption of the save.. and in this case the only one solution is to have an old save

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  • 1 month later...

I'm also having this problem.

 

Here's my load order.

 

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
moonpath.esm=1
Grytewake.esm=1
SPIKE.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
portal2mod.esp=1
DwemerRifle.esp=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
Giants twohand hammertime.esp=1
giantclub_en.esp=1
Borfs_Useful_Books.esp=1
Dr_Bandolier.esp=1
InfernoStorm_Shout.esp=1
DwemerAutoBlade.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
AkaviriTanto.esp=1
Books+.esp=1
AronsMechaDragons.esp=1
GravHammer.esp=1
Tools of Kagrenac.esp=1
CompanionValfar.esp=1
sheogorath_shout.esp=1
BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp=1
Wolfs_Simple_Recipes.esp=1
Wolfs_Intermediate_Recipes.esp=1
Wolfs_Buff_Recipes.esp=1
Wolfs_Advanced_Recipes.esp=1
NoSaltRecipes.esp=1
CraftingMaterialsRecipes.esp=1
Aethernautics.esp=1
Dwemer Certified.esp=1
The Fifth Gate.esp=1
KCEAssaultRifles.esp=1
Barenziah.esp=1
TheClockworkAdventure.esp=1
PEPSIMAN.esp=1
markarthbookstore.esp=1
SecretOfTheDwemer.esp=1
Lightning Blaze Edge.esp=1
WoTS - Overhaul Version.esp=1
Wyrmstooth.esp=1
Gersonia.esp=1
Jotunheim.esp=1
DragonmournInn.esp=1
Books+ (No skill books).esp=1
CrimsonQuest3.esp=1
SurSummerAssault - Imperial.esp=1
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp=1
SuperSkyrimBros.esp=1
Command Dragon.esp=1
AgentOfRighteousMight.esp=1
moonpath_questdata.esp=1
TTOA.esp=1
lightweight potions and poisons.esp=1
ErynielElfV2.esp=1
Grytewake.esp=1
Cults of Skyrim.esp=1
quest into the depths.esp=1
DEATH-DEALER-PKR.esp=1
MatandPat.esp=1
Helgen Reborn.esp=1
Lilium_Companion.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
ShootingStars.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
DDD-BardsLute.esp=1
balfer.esp=1
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1
SSAPBWK.esp=1
DivinePunishmentForArrowsToTheKnee.esp=1
ERSO 32 - Lord of the Dead.esp=1
Wrath Of Nature.esp=1
Another Food Mod -All_In_One.esp=1
HerbalTea.esp=1
Vile Concoctions.esp=1
SeraticArmor.esp=1
SeraticHeavyArmorDark.esp=1
SeraticHeavyArmorGray.esp=1
InfinityBlade.esp=1
Loveless.esp=1
Lightning.esp=1
Excalibur.esp=0
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  • 5 months later...
I'm also having this issue, only I am able to buy and sell with belethor. The game only crashes if I attempt to buy or sell with magic merchants.


Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

sh_hf_falkr_fix.esp

sh_hf_hjaal_fix.esp

sh_hf_pale_fix.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

SplashofRain.esp

AOS.esp

AOS_DGDB Patch.esp

Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp

Cutting Room Floor.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp

TradeBarter.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

KaceAutoloot.esp

Dead Body Collision.esp

EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp

GuessDistance.esp

Insects Begone - Spiders and Chaurus.esp

Insects Begone - Dawnguard - Spiders and Chaurus.esp

Insects Begone - Hearthfires.esp

Insects Begone - DragonBorn Spiders and Ashoppers.esp

Marco's Integrated Leveled Lists.esp

Point The Way.esp

Traps Make Noise.esp

WetandCold.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

AOS_WetandCold Patch.esp

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp

NoxUE2.00.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

Cloaks.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch-NoGuards.esp

DragonbornArmorFix.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

MIDFollowMeCloser.esp

SkyRe_Main.esp

SkyRe_Main_Fix.esp

SkyRe_Combat.esp

SkyRe_CraftingFix.esp

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp

SkyRe_EnemyScaling_Fix.esp

SkyRe_Survivalism.esp

SkyRe_HelmlessPerks.esp

AOS_SkyRe Patch.esp

Insects Begone - Skyre Main.esp

Insects Begone - Skyre Enemy Scaling.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp


BetterQuestObjectives.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp


Civil War Overhaul.esp

AOS_CWO Patch.esp

GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_Vanilla.esp

NPCsMoveatPlayerSpeed.esp

Rebirth Monster.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

TheChoiceIsYours.esp

TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp

TimingIsEverything.esp

TimingIsEverything_RunForYourLives_Patch.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-TimingIsEverythingPatch.esp

wizDynamicThings.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp

BFT Ships and Carriages - HF.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers.esp

RLO - Adaptive Interiors Vanilla Weathers Patch.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Brighter Dungeons.esp

Candlelight_Toggle.esp

conjure_chest.esp

ssapbwk.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

AOS_DSI Patch.esp

Enchanting Freedom.esp

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-BetterStealthAIPatch.esp

LockpickingOverhaul4.esp

pickpocket_min_20.esp

DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp

AOS_DCOd Patch.esp

3DNPC.esp

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp

RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp

RND_USKP-Patch.esp

Inigo.esp

SBF All In One + DLC.esp

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

NonEssentialChildren.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

AFT_NoDances.esp

AFT_iNPCFix.esp

AFTtweak.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp


Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp


dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp

TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp

TTYM - Frostfall Module.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

AOS_RWT Patch.esp

Tamriel Reloaded.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

ReProccer.esp

ReProccerNONPLAYERfix.esp

ReProccerDragonborn.esp

AOS_SkyRe-Patch Patch.esp

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  • 1 year later...

most probably it's a conflict: if it's so, start a new game for test with all mods disabled, go to a ctd trader, save and then enable some mod, check... enable other mods check, until you'll find the problem

 

in the worse case could be a corruption of the save.. and in this case the only one solution is to have an old save

 

i had the same problem and that worked for me. it was a book texture mod that caused the crashes. Mine was the "book covers skyrim". After deactivating it, the CTD's at merchants stopped.

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  • 3 years later...

 

most probably it's a conflict: if it's so, start a new game for test with all mods disabled, go to a ctd trader, save and then enable some mod, check... enable other mods check, until you'll find the problem

 

in the worse case could be a corruption of the save.. and in this case the only one solution is to have an old save

 

i had the same problem and that worked for me. it was a book texture mod that caused the crashes. Mine was the "book covers skyrim". After deactivating it, the CTD's at merchants stopped.

 

 

Crap...

If Book Covers Skyrim is the problem then I'm screwed, cause I apparently have that installed due it being packaged in with Legacy of the Dragonborn.

 

Well, there goes my idea for a relic hunter playthrough...

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  • 3 months later...

Hey, if anyone needs help I found out for my load order "Better Spell Learning.esp" was what caused my issue.

 

Went and checked out the description pages of all the magic related mods I have since the CTD (crash to desktop) was happening when trying to buy from the mage in Dragon's Reach.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Dont forget your to run Loot->Tes5Edit to create SSEMerged.esp (Don't forget to remove LvL NPC and Lvl Items and clean the SSEMerged before exiting Tes5Edit) -> Wrye Bash all mods to build Bashed Patch.esp

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There's nothing wrong with book covers mod unless something is conflicting with it. 50000 endorsements for that mod. All of you guys have dlc resolution pack. Ditch that. Couple of you guys have jacked up load orders, that's almost certainly the problem. I don't use loot to sort my load order(I'm always around 250 mods installed) but if I was you guys I would try that first. Google "Skyrim only you can't prevent forest fires" scroll down to load order section and give it a read, it's a good read. And ditch the old dlc patches and get USLEEP
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