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ShinyMud

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Just started a playthrough and noticed this, never seen it before. Seems to only happen on a couple custom followers I've downloaded from nexus. It becomes much more distorted depending on the angle I look at it from and it goes away as long as its not in my sight at all. Any fixes?

This is happening on the NPC that is right below the quest arrow

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  • Which custom followers? (names, follower links ideally, if sourced from Nexus, LL, etc.)
  • What body type(s) is/are these custom follower/s?
  • Are this/these custom follower/s wearing (or otherwise equipped with) HDT/SMP hair (ie via wig, racemenu, or even intrinsic follower mod assignment), or did they "come with" any special armor/clothing which has HDT/SMP characteristics?
  • Are you sure that, aside from above, that any clothing or armor they are equipped with is stable in and of itself(s)?
  • Are these custom followers wearing any special armor/clothing or weapons you installed from mods, especially SMP/HDT-enabled armor/clothing? (links ideally)
  • When did this issue begin happening? (ex: "after I installed *this* mod", "it's always ben like this ever since I installed her", etc)
  • Does this problem happen all the time on these specific followers or is it intermittent?
  • if intermittent, is it always or does it usually exhibit in the same areas?
  • Are you sure it's the followers causing this visual artifact, instead of the surroundings? - ex: I have one player home that occasionally produces "angle of attack" visual artifacts. It would be easy for someone to presume that a player standing within those artifacts caused them, although in truth, the artifacts exist nowhere else other than at that home...
  • Do you have any other snapshots in less "busy" locations showing this visual artifact? (to help see the artifacts clearer without the distraction of busy backgrounds)

Also, a load order (cut-pasted into a spoiler tag > see the green and white striped icon next to the font selector in the text editor) could also be of potential use to those who might choose to read and examine your issue...

- if it's not something as simple as an SMP destabilization (if follower, use one of the four SMP/CBPC mode switch hotkeys provided by BHUNP or CBBE-3BBB MCMs (and presumably for other advanced UUNP/etc body models today), for the player, the singular SMP/CBPC mode switch hotkey, or issue an SMP reset from console mode for a global SMP reset.

- or it's not something else like one of the other things I suggested in my questions, which might help you solve this on your own.

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  • Which custom followers? (names, follower links ideally, if sourced from Nexus, LL, etc.)
  • What body type(s) is/are these custom follower/s?
  • Are this/these custom follower/s wearing (or otherwise equipped with) HDT/SMP hair (ie via wig, racemenu, or even intrinsic follower mod assignment), or did they "come with" any special armor/clothing which has HDT/SMP characteristics?
  • Are you sure that, aside from above, that any clothing or armor they are equipped with is stable in and of itself(s)?
  • Are these custom followers wearing any special armor/clothing or weapons you installed from mods, especially SMP/HDT-enabled armor/clothing? (links ideally)
  • When did this issue begin happening? (ex: "after I installed *this* mod", "it's always ben like this ever since I installed her", etc)
  • Does this problem happen all the time on these specific followers or is it intermittent?
  • if intermittent, is it always or does it usually exhibit in the same areas?
  • Are you sure it's the followers causing this visual artifact, instead of the surroundings? - ex: I have one player home that occasionally produces "angle of attack" visual artifacts. It would be easy for someone to presume that a player standing within those artifacts caused them, although in truth, the artifacts exist nowhere else other than at that home...
  • Do you have any other snapshots in less "busy" locations showing this visual artifact? (to help see the artifacts clearer without the distraction of busy backgrounds)

Also, a load order (cut-pasted into a spoiler tag > see the green and white striped icon next to the font selector in the text editor) could also be of potential use to those who might choose to read and examine your issue...

- if it's not something as simple as an SMP destabilization (if follower, use one of the four SMP/CBPC mode switch hotkeys provided by BHUNP or CBBE-3BBB MCMs (and presumably for other advanced UUNP/etc body models today), for the player, the singular SMP/CBPC mode switch hotkey, or issue an SMP reset from console mode for a global SMP reset.

- or it's not something else like one of the other things I suggested in my questions, which might help you solve this on your own.

 

Hey, well first i'll state that the issue as far as I'm aware is fixed. I just re-installed the two custom followers that had the issue and it went away.

 

The two were Toccata and Miko. They both use CBBE and I have 3bbb for physics. Toccata was using a custom outfit but in my several previous playthroughs I never encountered this problem, Miko has no custom outfit. To be sure it was them, I disabled both of them and the corruption disappeared. Sorry, thats my only screenshot I have and I'm not sure on how I can re-create this problem.

 

my assumption as to how this happened was a few days ago I copied and pasted all my current mods into a backup folder cause I was gonna run my whole load order through CAO and should something go south, my mods should still be fine given that I have a backup file. Decided to revert to my backup mod list after doing that and I wonder if something went wrong during the copy/pasting part and these two followers were affected by that in some way.

 

Heres my load order should you need it:

 

00 Skyrim.esm
01 Update.esm
02 Dawnguard.esm
03 Hearthfires.esm
04 Dragonborn.esm
05 ccBGSSSE002-ExoticArrows.esl
06 ccBGSSSE003-Zombies.esl
07 ccBGSSSE004-RuinsEdge.esl
08 ccBGSSSE014-SpellPack01.esl
09 ccBGSSSE019-StaffofSheogorath.esl
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0C ccQDRSSE002-Firewood.esl
0D ccEEJSSE002-Tower.esl
0E ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
0F ccBGSSSE045-Hasedoki.esl
10 ccEEJSSE003-Hollow.esl
11 ccBGSSSE016-Umbra.esm
12 ccBGSSSE013-Dawnfang.esl
13 ccEEJSSE004-Hall.esl
14 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp [Version 4.2.3]
15 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
16 SGEyebrows.esp
17 Resources - The Great Cities.esp
18 Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl
19 ThievesGuildDagger_SE_ENG.esl
1A 3DNPC.esp [Version 4.3.6]
1B Vigilant.esm
1C High Poly Head.esm
1D FloraRespawnFix.esp
1E SkyUI_SE.esp
1F SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
20 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
21 ELFX - Exteriors.esp
22 ELFX - Weathers.esp
23 Immersive Wenches.esp
24 Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp
25 TKDodge.esp
26 WiZkiD Imperial Forts.esp
27 Praedy's SoulEssenceGem.esp
28 HearthFires Display Case Fix SE.esp
29 Realistic-Voice.esp
2A Skimpy Unique Deathbrand.esp
2B [Christine] Nord Ascended.esp
2C [sunJeong] Dark Sorceress.esp
2D HVBodyPaints.esp
2E Sakora's Make Over Kit for SKSE64.esp
2F AMatterOfTime.esp [Version 2.00]
30 BlacktalonArmorV1.3.esp
31 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
32 Enhanced Landscapes.esp
33 S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp
34 SOTFull.esp
35 Rebirth Monster.esp
36 Praedy's SoulGems.esp
37 Tamriel Master Lights.esp
38 JKs Skyrim.esp
39 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
3A Enhanced Landscapes - Dead Marsh.esp
3B Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp [Version v6.6a]
3C ELFX Fixes.esp
3D RealisticNordShips.esp
3E ELFXEnhancer.esp
3F Cathedral Weathers.esp
40 longerdays.esp
41 Conditional Expressions.esp
42 Echelon.esp
43 Evening Star.esp
44 KSHairdosSMP.esp
45 MikanEyes All in one SE.esp
46 OreIngotsFadingsignal.esp
47 [Zynx][WickWah] Red Sonja Armor.esp
48 Simply No Fast Travel.esp
49 SkyHUD.esp
4A StormLightning.esp
4B [Christine] Dragon Breaker.esp
4C KS Hairdo's.esp
4D VioLens SE.esp [Version 2.22]
4E Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp
4F The Great Town of Ivarstead.esp
50 JK's - ELFX Patch.esp
51 The Great Town of Karthwasten.esp
52 The Great Town of Shor's Stone.esp
53 The Great Village of Kynesgrove.esp
54 The Great Village of Old Hroldan.esp
55 JK's Blue Palace.esp
56 OBIS SE.esp
57 The Great Village of Mixwater Mill.esp
58 Qw_ISC_USSEP Patch.esp
59 Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp
5A Man Those Borders!.esp
5B Fort(ified) Dawnguard.esp
5C Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
5D Savage Skyrim Std.esp
5E Realm of Lorkhan - Custom Alternate Start - Choose your own adventure.esp
5F DFB - Random Encounters.esp [Version 1.2aSE]
60 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
61 Immersive Weapons.esp
62 PAN_NPCs_Males.esp
63 JK's Dragonsreach.esp
64 JK's The Winking Skeever.esp
65 Sepolcri.esp
66 Sepolcri - JKs Skyrim patch.esp
67 Water for ENB.esp
68 SOTGenesisMod.esp
69 [Christine] Forsworn Retribution.esp
6A Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp
6B PAN_NPCs.esp
6C Toccata as Elisif.esp
6D Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.8]
6E EmbersHD.esp
6F AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
70 YurianaWench.esp
71 JK's_WinSk_ELFX_Patch.esp
72 Morning Fogs SSE.esp
73 Extra Guards.esp
74 JK's Radiant Raiment.esp [Version 1.0.0]
75 JK's RadReim_ELFX_Patch.esp
76 Interesting Roads.esp
77 zombie.esp
78 Red Flame.esp [Version 1.01]
79 YellowKing.esp [Version 1.00]
7A JK's Sleeping Giant Inn.esp
7B JK's Angelines Aromatics.esp [Version 1.0.0]
7C JK's AngeAroma_ELFX_Patch.esp
7D Fulcimentum - More Staves and Wands of Skyrim.esp
7E Arcanum.esp
7F JK Skyrim - TML Cities.esp
80 JK's Bits and Pieces.esp [Version 1.0.0]
81 Qw_3DNPC_USSEP Patch.esp
82 Bring Out Your Dead.esp [Version 4.0.7]
83 They Took our Jobs.esp
84 Immersive Patrols II.esp
85 Kate Follower.esp
86 AZ_TordisFollower.esp
87 Chaconne.esp
88 PA44_Solitude_NPC.esp
89 PA44_Reach_NPC.esp
8A PA44_Windhelm_NPC.esp
8B TsunTsun Armor Remastered.esp
8C 3BBB.esp
8D PyP_Legendary.esp
8E TheCleaner.esp
8F AutoHideAmmo.esp
90 cs_soulfragmentstosoulgems.esp
91 AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
92 Eli_SMIM-Hendraheim-Patch.esp
93 GDOS - Splendid Mechanized Dwemer Door.esp
94 NewmillerDarkVampKnight.esp
95 HitStop.esp
96 Book of UUNP - Textures.esp
97 ThugsNotAssassins.esp
98 WetFunction.esp
99 Potions.esp
9A Lupine_YyvengarBodypaints.esp
9B skyforgedWeapons.esp
9C OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
9D Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
9E DeadlyDragons.esp
9F Durnehviir God of Death.esp
A0 Foggy Morthal and Swamp.esp
A1 NewArmoury.esp
A2 VisualAnimatedEnchants.esp
A3 Colorful_Magic_SE.esp [Version to]
A4 JK's Arcadia's Cauldron.esp [Version 1]
A5 EasierRidersDungeonPackSSE.esp
A6 Toccata.esp
A7 JKs Skyrim_BOYD_Patch.esp
A8 Hateful Wenches.esp
A9 mihailzombies.esp
AA JKs Skyrim_3D Trees_Patch.esp
AB ogFalkreathHauntings.esp
AC The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED.esp
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B4 Triumvirate - Mage Archetypes.esp
B5 mihailskinnedhound.esp
B6 LADX_SSE.esp
B7 mihailskaafin.esp
B8 Draugnarok.esp
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BB nordlongboatv.2.esp
BC ogBogmort.esp
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BF Bikini Armors.esp
C0 Bijin AIO.esp
C1 Bijin Warmaidens.esp
C2 USSEP-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
C3 garm_black.esp
C4 GallowsOfSkyrim.esp
C5 icebladeofthemonarch.esp
C6 WiZkiD Pinewatch.esp
C7 FireBurns.esp
C8 Qw_BijinAIO_USSEP Patch.esp
C9 Valerica.esp
CA BW Aela.esp
CB PAN_FollowerPack1.esp
CC OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp
CD Eli_Landscape Fixes Hendraheim Patch.esp
CE 1Hungers.esp
CF TheEyesOfBeauty.esp [Version 9]
D0 ScarletDawnArmor.esp
D1 Serana.esp
D2 Shout.esp
D3 SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp
D4 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
D5 NorthernGrass.esp
D6 PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
D7 Reduce Attack Scating Movement.esp
D8 PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
D9 PA44_ThievesGuild_NPC.esp
DA 3DNPC0.esp
DB Immersive Wenches -KS hairs- Patch.esp
DC Heart Breaker SE.esp [Version 1.3]
DD HQ Tintmasks for Immersive Wenches.esp
DE HavoksLipPatterns.esp
DF EVGConditionalIdles.esp
E0 FacelightPlus.esp
E1 FNIS.esp
E2 FNIS_PCEA2.esp
E3 Draugr Wanderer Outfit.esp
E4 JBMod - SkUg Patch.esp
E5 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
E6 JBMod.esp
E7 dD-Medium Script Range.esp
E8 dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
E9 dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
EA [COCO] Pinup Cheongsam.esp
EB CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp
EC CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp
ED CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
EE DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
EF Qw_DeadlySpellImpacts_ISC Patch.esp
F0 ttoj ussep patch.esp
F1 Wildcat-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
F2 PA44_Riften_NPC.esp
F3 PA44_Winterhold_NPC.esp
F4 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
F5 Raina.esp
F6 JK's Belethor's General Goods.esp
F7 Deadly Wenches.esp
F8 Heritage.esp
F9 Heritage - MLU Configuration.esp
FA Heritage Deadly Wenches Compatibility.esp
FB Heritage - Immersive Creatures Compatibility.esp
FC DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
FD Bijin NPCs.esp
FE Bijin Wives.esp
FF BikiniRobesStandalone.esp
100 BikiniRobes_OutfitReplacerCompatibility.esp
101 BloodKin Bow.esp
102 CBBE.esp
103 Brows.esp
104 CommunityOverlays3.esp
105 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
106 DX Dark Knight Armor.esp
107 DX Necromancer Robes.esp
108 DX Succubus Armor.esp
109 PA44_Companions_NPC.esp
10A Crimson Storm.esp
10B JRTundraHomesteadPatch.esp
10C Ace Blood Magic SE.esp
10D Praedy's ShrineOfAzuraSizeX2.esp
10E AzuraFXEnbLightX2.esp
10F 50 More Perk Points.esp
110 EnhancedAtronachs.esp
111 Black Thief.esp
112 Dragons Bane.esp
113 Arctic Wolf Bow.esp
114 Better Females - Eyebrows.esp
115 Better Dynamic Snow.esp
116 S3DTrees Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp
117 BlendedRoads.esp
118 Better Harvesting.esp
119 Qw_Skyrim3DTrees_FloraRespawnFix Patch.esp
11A aMidianBorn_Book of Silence.esp
11B MoreBrains.esp
11C UIExtensions.esp
11D RaceMenu.esp
11E RaceMenuPlugin.esp
11F RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
120 XPMSE.esp
121 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
122 Forgotten Wenches.esp
123 Judgment Wenches.esp
124 UltimateCombat.esp
125 Realistic Melee Range.esp [Version 1.1]
126 ENB Light.esp
127 CBBE muscle solution weight slider.esp
128 thair.esp
129 Hedy.esp
12A SwiftPotion.esp
12B Supreme and Volumetric Fog for Cathedral Weathers and Seasons.esp
12C Supreme Fog.esp
12D StaminaMatters.esp
12E MigSlowAtk.esp
12F High Poly Pretty Face and Darker Brows Stand Alone.esp
130 Miko.esp
131 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
132 MLU.esp
133 SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp
134 SoS_ELFX+Enhancer+Weathers_Patch.esp
135 ZIA_Complete Pack.esp
136 MLU - ZIA.esp
137 SoS_Cathedral_Patch.esp
138 Rebirth Monster - MLU Patch.esp
139 MLU - Guards Armor Replacer patch.esp
13A MLU - Immersive Armors.esp
13B Growl - Werebeasts of Skyrim.esp
13C ELFX Fixes Ragged Flagon Fix.esp
13D Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
13E Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
13F Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp
140 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
141 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
142 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
143 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
144 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
145 Qw_BijinAIO_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp
146 CWIBDSPatch.esp
147 CWIEnLFXSEPatch.esp
148 CWISPOPatchSE.esp
149 bijin-brelyna-icow.esp
----> MISSING MASTER: Bijin_AIO-SV 2018.esp
14A BijinBrelyndaICOWPatch.esp
14B Bells of Skyrim - ICAIO Patch.esp
14C SoS_ImmersiveCitizens_Patch.esp
14D Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp
14E Enhanced Landscapes - IC Patch.esp
14F nwsFollowerFramework.esp
150 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
151 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

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