Okay, so I've been around a while. Long enough to remember NMM and the switch to Vortex.
I've used NMM, Vortex and MO2 quite extensively, though for years I've used MO2 for Elder Scrolls and Fallout games.
When Valheim came out, I updated to Vortex Beta to get the extension for Valheim / BepInEx support.
And now I need to sort my load order for Valheim.
But even though I am a retired Network Engineer / IT Consultant who's been around long enough to remember when the first GNU/Linux distro came out (Slackware 1.0 1993 kernel version 0.99) and can usually find my way around most any software...
I cannot for the life of me figure out how to manually sort load order in Vortex.
So naturally, I do some searching and I find that - as near as I can tell without spending all day catching up on all the discussions - the official party line from the Vortex devs is, "Don't need manual load order sorting, LOOT is built-in".
Since when does LOOT support Valheim?
I also used to play X3 and recently decided to buy X4 from Steam.
I can install mods for X4 using Vortex.
Since when does LOOT support X4?
Now, my decades of experience in the computer world have made me painfully aware that there is always something I don't know.
So perhaps there is something I'm missing. Perhaps there is an easy way of manually sorting load order and I've just been blind and not seen it. After weeks of looking. Or perhaps there is no need to sort load order for Valheim or X4. (Yea, right.)
But...I'm getting mod conflicts with Valhiem and X4, and Vortex doesn't know it.
Vortex did once detect a conflict in Valheim and let me choose which loads before which.
But most of the time it doesn't detect the conflicts and doesn't offer to let me decide which loads before the other.
And if it doesn't know about the conflict, it doesn't seem to want to let me make rules.
Just tells me, "YOU HAVE NO FILE CONFLICTS, WOW!"
Which is patently patronizing, curiously condescending and f'ing stupid.
Because I KNOW that there are conflicts.
I can disable mods and re-enable mods and narrow it down and figure out which mods are conflicting.
But I can't DO anything about it.
Vortex won't LET me.
I did try reinstalling the conflicting mods - first Mod A before Mod B, then Mob B before Mod A. But it didn't seem to make any difference.
As an old experienced troubleshooter (who is now gladly retired and allowing that skillset to rust away) I sure wish I could do some load order testing for Vaheim and X4. Sure would be nice to have some manual load order sorting capability. There is apparently no masterlist file to edit for those games. I'm not about to waste my retirement gametime figuring out that .msgpack file.
So now I'm hoping that someone will come along and say, "It's easy, just click this and do that and viola!".
That or explain to me why any game not supported by LOOT doesn't need sorting anyway...
Back in the day...
There used to be a job called "Systems Analyst". That job no longer really exists. Oh, it's still around, but the job description always reads the same as "Project Manager". But they aren't the same at all - apples and oranges.
Page 1, Paragraph 1 of the Systems Analyst textbook said this, "The job of a Systems Analyst is to find problems with the system, and to devise and implement solutions to the problems."
Page 1, Paragraph 2 said, "A problem is defined as any difference between how the users of the system expect the system to function, and how the system actually functions."