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Not sure what the imperial armory mod is? I do know you can get the glowing armor bug when using the Stealth trooper or rad trooper helmets from the main Commonweath Storm trooper mod.

This is kind of cool. If you blow off their legs they will sit on the ground like this and shoot at you. https://imgur.com/bzMq1f1 I also decided to go with orange for the Synth Commanders/leaders to match the commander pauldron. I also thought it'd be nice that the two color versions take after Anakin's and obiwan's clone battalions. That way with the exception of the Courser and the Clean troopers all the Synth versions are different from the modifications you can make with the Commonwealth Stormtrooper mod. You can dare to be different and don't have to worry about 100's of synths running around looking like you. Did discover a possible new glitch though. Sometimes it seems you find a body with 2 blastech's on it. I am not 100% sure but I think it's because I have the mod that makes it so they don't drop weapons on death and they are getting their spawned gun shot out of their hands and picking up another one from a near by dead trooper. Then when they die their spawned gun is still in their inventory but also the one they picked up. I am not sure but it's a low priority. Worst case scenario is you have more blastechs to sell. I think I have the armor ratings in a better spot now. I went through Ft. Hagan with a Submachine gun with a powerful receiver. I had Heather as back up and she had a decent gun too. I had decent armor. I had to use some stim packs but I was able to get through. A couple of the legendary's and the Leader took a lot to bring down. Basically I set it so Field troopers and Regular troopers have something a bit strong than full combat armor. Synth Special Forces and Commanders are stronger but not as strong as power armor. (these armors don't break like power armor does so they keep that rating the whole fight) Coursers are pretty close to an enemy in power armor. They will be tough so you should be loaded for bear if you go after them. I will probably upload an alternate Esp with weaker armor. You can also target the legs and arms and blow them off disabling much of their mobility. They will still show full armor but they will hold the busted arm like a human when it's disabled and if you blow off their legs they will sit on the floor. Like I said above I was able blow off the legs of a legendary and then shoot his gun out of his hand and he just sat on the floor waiting for me to just empty my gun into him. So there are tactics that can help in tough fights too.

Ok. I may have over done it with the armor rating on these guys. I just tried running through Arc Jet with Danse with a basic out of the box submachine gun. Level 21 with fairly decent armor on. It took a butt load of ammo to take synths down and I must of went through 30 stim packs. If I leave them as is anyone who runs into a group of these suckers at a lower level are going to have their backsides handed to them. I have to do a little research on enemy armor levels to see if I can get them balanced... I want them tough but not so much that people are getting torn apart in seconds. I also don't want them to be one shot kills at higher levels. My Mistake was making them almost as strong as power armor. Which is fine one on one but when you have a room full of them? Zonks!.

I have a version almost ready to go. I am using Deodexed's textures which he gave me permission to use and I made a few modifications for alternate versions. Here are images just of the version I am getting ready to release. I want to do just a little more testing and then I have to figure out how to upload it so it can be added by NMM. Plus I am trying to decide between two versions of the Wasteland trooper armor. I made a darker and a lighter version. Not sure which one I like best yet. It won't be a simple esp file anymore. There are a couple of Materials and Textures that will be added the Commonwealth Stormtrooper folders. No overwrites.. Just new ones. anyway check out the new gallery. https://imgur.com/a/2Bd19

To fix that your could replace the files that the synth body has with storm trooper armor, so basically replace the synth models with storm trooper combined mesh. The problem is that rigging it and editing the nifs are very time consuming and confusing thats actually what im stuck on for my mod. That might be a bit beyond me.

Oh the limbs and heads still fly off when you shoot them just the armor stays intact.. You people will have to pretend they blew a hole in the back of the armor. Yea it's a bit off but to be totally honest that's one glitch I will have to live with because I would have to completely change synths and I have no clue where to even start. (not to mention all the other complications that could cause). Yes I am giving them full sets of armor. Helmets and suits for all. a few get paudruns, kamas, and ammo pouches.

That's not a bad idea. I'll see if I can do that. I was just given instructions from the author of the E-11 blaster mod on how to make the level lists more expansive with the different E-11 receivers. It might take me a while to figure it out even with the instructions though . :unsure: so it's possible if/when I am ready to release the mod it much just have basic blasters for everyone at first with an update later down the line. I've been messing around with the CK/Geck on Bethsda's games since Morrowind but have only RARELY released any mods as I kind of brute force my way through it and usually end up with something that isn't fit for wide release. :ninja: I'm trying to do it right this time. :dance:

Ok.. Here is an issue I am trying to address. Since I am still basically a novice modder I do not know how to make the blasters spawn with various receivers. That means legendary synths and high level synths will spawn with the exact same weapons. And with the basic receiver the blastech isn't very powerful once you get up a few levels. (which of course is a duh statement as that's what better receivers are for) Synths are too dumb to mod their weapons as they level up. :psyduck: Now have made the more dangerous synths more of a challenge by increasing the armor value on the 501st and Commander's armors. So they wont do any extra damage than the other synths they are with but they will take a few more shots to bring down. The higher level ones should also have better stats so will do more damage but just whatever the basic receiver gives them. Is that enough? or does someone know how to enchant those armors to increase weapon damage... Or even better how I can make my level list replacer use all the different receivers in the Blastech mod? :wallbash: Thanks for any insights.

I have run some more tests. I haven't been unable to reproduce the glowing helmet bug on the synths. It seems to only occur with the female Mannequins now. I have the E-11 replacer working and think I may be close to releasing a beta version. So I sent out some messages to start getting permissions.

I was just thinking.. I could account for the lost income by not having synth armor to sell by leaving the Ammo pouches still playable and just bump up their sell value.

Someone was asking about some pictures I posted about how I turned synths into Stormtroopers from Deodexed's Fantastic Commonwealth Stormtroopers mod I did post a bunch of this stuff on the comments part of that mod... My apologies to Deodexed as I realize that discussion is more appropriate here. So anyway. I am working on a Stormtrooper synth mod to share but I haven't got all the permissions yet and there are a couple of bugs I am working out. I think I am very close to having it ready though (Depending on permissions) Also Please note: I am not trying to assume anything when it comes to permissions. Obviously mod authors have the right to tell me no and I respect that and will not use anything I don't have permissions for. I am just explaining my plan and pointing out some options. I just want to make sure it is 100% ready to go before I start bugging other modders about permissions. I am making my mod so it has specially made synth armor and doesn't need Deodexed's mod as a master but will need it installed due to the textures/meshes/materials obviously and can be run along with it so far (with a couple of bugs mentioned below). Theoretically as long as he keeps the same texture and material paths It should work even when he updates. I even have a lore explanation for it.. (though obviously the mod will remain non Lore Friendly) That the director of the institute came across copies of a few pre-war movies and found some he really loved. Because of that he went ahead and developed armor based on some of the armor from those movies. Currently I have Wasteland troopers (Sand Armor/helm, pauldron, ammo packs on hip and chest) Trying to get it where most of the troops you see in the field are wearing that... The Wasteland is a dirty place after all. Synth Special forces: (501st armor/helm texture, white Kama, hip/waist pouches and pauldron) I am setting most legendary and some higher level synths to spawn this way. Superbarrel synths also spawn with it... Figured it fit. Synth Commanders: (uses the Red/Shock trooper armor/helm texture white Kama, Pouches, and Arctrooper pauldron ) Synth leaders. Bosses, and some Legendary are set for this. I chose the shock armor because I like it more than the Commander armor and it's more worn and that gives it a bit more wasteland feel to it. I figures those leaders go on a lot of missions so their armor should be more dinged up that ones that just work at the institute. Plain synth armor (Clean armor/helmet) These are given to most of the synths at the institute and some of the ones that teleport into fights. Seems I get a mixture of clean and dirty synths when teleports happen but I think that's isn't immersion breaking as reinforcements should come from what ever troopers are ready to go. I also changed a lot of the gen-3 synths around the institute to wear the Synth Under armor instead of those worker jump suits which I think gives it more an imperial feel. Works best with a texture replacer that makes them black but even the white version works. I also use the dark institute mod and dark scientist outfits mods too but I may just put all the scientists in the Synth uniform. (What do you think?) I have also messed with some of the Railroad heavy's (including Glory) to use the Camo trooper armor but no helm just a regular army helmet and goggles. (Glory's outfit does not have the helmet and goggles. Just the armor) My explanation is they captured some synth troopers and re-purposed the trooper armor and repainted it for their own use. If I ever do release something I would do versions with and without this change. I just thought it was cooler than those butt ugly jackets with lead bars sewn on the front. (IMHO) When looking at my screen shots you'll see I also have mods made where the synth weapons are all replaced by Blastech E-11's or The Republic Armory DC-15S's Obviously I can only use one at a time but I am not sure if I will be allowed to release those with my troopers. I have been more recently playing with the Republic Armory one so that's the one you may see the most in my screen shots at the moment but I am not sure it it'll work even if I get permission . I love the blastech rifle but I thought it'd be cool if I could get both options to work as a choice. But it's less likely I will be able to get RA to work. My skills may not be up to the task. I really had to change that mod so the weapons use regular Laser weapon ammo instead of the Tibbana Gass so the NPC's actually spawn with ammo. I could only do that by editing the ESP that came with it so I have to figure out another way. I would only release it if I could do it separate with just using the original as a master. I am not going to release a modification of the author's esp but wanted to mention it because I am still trying to figure out how to do it just make it a level list change that uses his mod as a master and still get the Tibbana gas to spawn with the synths. The E-11 mod I just added level lists changes to it so they all spawn with basic E-11 Rifles and that works fine using the original as master. Though that seems to work giving everyone basic E-11 blasters I am still trying to figure out how I can make it so the level lists spawn the different versions of the E-11 like the pistol grip, auto, and extended stock. I don't want to just assume they will let me so that's one reason why I am working on more than one option. Republic Armory and Blast tech E-11 are the mods I am talking about. I highly recommend both as they are great laser weapons. Why I am not ready for release There is a bug with Rad and Stealth trooper armors and helmets where if either is created and used via the original mod. It makes the helmets glow green or blue on some synths. It seems to be related to which ever color the eye glow of the trooper you are using is. I have no clue how to fix that. (There are screen shots of this in the link below) I had to scrap plans of putting Coursers in Stealth armor because of this but I am thinking about asking the guy who made the Death Trooper mod if I could make a mod that uses his to give coursers the death trooper look. But that's something that'll have to come later. If he allows is I could also use his death trooper rifle as synth weapons if the other two options fall though. Anyway if you make and equip you own stealth or rad trooper armor from the original mod it may cause this bug sometimes when you encounter synths (I'm still testing to see if it's just an occasional occurrence or one that just happens when there is a script lag or memory lag) I do know on Mannequins the helmets glow 100% of the time on the female ones but never on the males so it might not be as big of a deal as I think.. But it does still require testing. Also by equipping a non glow eyed trooper helmet the glow will go away. The helmets will stay glowing however if you just unequip the helmet with eye glow. You have to actually equip another storm trooper helmet to get it to go away. I'd hate to have to tell people they need to care a spare plain trooper helmet with them if they use this mod. There is another (minor IMHO) bug when you shoot the synths wearing trooper armor you will occasionally see synth body parts flying off like heads and arms and stuff but the armor stay's fully attached. This is something I doubt I would ever be able to change as the synth bodies are designed to do that and I wouldn't even know where to start... I realized this can be a bit non-immersive and will bother some folks.. But hey it can be really funny sometimes. Like when you shoot a synth in the face and you see it's metal robot head fly out the back of his head and you have comedy gold.. (You'll just have to imagine you blew a big hole in the back of the helmet) When synths kneel or die there is sometimes clipping of the fake skin parts through the under armor and or Gloves. I feel this is minor too as it's not very noticeable and you kind of have to expect when you are in the process shooting that synth full of holes that some parts will show through. It only happens with synths that have that fake skin parts over their metal bodies. I didn't want to mess with changing the synths too much. All I did was make armor outfits and then edited all synths to use those outfits. I had to do it with outfits because I wanted the metal Gen1's to have the armor too. I left the dream ones metal as that is a memory before the current director takes over so it would fit with my weak lore explanation. If I make the armor lootable occasionally you will loot a synth that has no head but floating eyes underneath. (one more reason I doubt I will make it playable) The reason I am not 100% sure about the lootable/playable side is that if I do not make it lootable then you lose a source of income from selling synth armor. Occasionally legendary synth armor parts show up on Legendary enemies, including legendary synths but other than that there might not be a way for people to get regular synth armor except from the vendor at the Institute. (I honestly can't even remember if he sells it or not) and some people might want it earlier than that. I can account for the lost income if I can get permissions to also release the Blastech or DC-15s as you can loot a ton of them when you are facing synths and they are valuable but it is still something I need to address. Here is a gallery from some of my tests that show the synths in actions at various points of the game plus the glow bug (Ha!) in it's current state... There are obviously spoilers here https://imgur.com/a/fAdKz Any Ideas, help, or just plane old criticism would be appreciated. Edit: I am using these texture replacers to get more of an imperial look to the institute you see in my screen shots. If I get the permissions I need and am confident the bugs are not going to get me hate I would add these as "recommended mods" to my upload. Evil Institute HD - Evil Institute HD Vanilla 1K Black Synth Uniform Recolor - Black Synth Uniform Dark Institute Lab Coats - Dark Lab Coats Replacer

Yea I did. I then tried turning off NPC's travel and so far they haven't showed up.. Just lucky so far or that was the problem. I just don't see anything in that mod that would cause the FInch's to randomly show up like that. :huh: And why is it just them instead of any of the other named settlers? I don't know. Thank you for your ideas on this.

Ok I'm at a loss. I went back to an old save. Played for a few hours everything fine. Then suddenly after fast traveling to Ten Pines There is Mr Finch there now. ... GARRRRRRRR

I am home from work. Here is my entire load order. (Don't judge me :wink: ) GameMode=Fallout4 Fallout4.esm=1DLCRobot.esm=1DLCworkshop01.esm=1DLCCoast.esm=1DLCworkshop02.esm=1DLCworkshop03.esm=1DLCNukaWorld.esm=1ArmorKeywords.esm=1Arbitration - Resources.esm=1EthreonMasterPlan.esp=1Homemaker.esm=1CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm=1settlementcleanup.esp=1Armorsmith Extended.esp=1Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp=1AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1Craftable Cats.esp=1walkers.esp=1NoDeathWeaponDrop.esp=1WastelandFashionAccessories.esp=1ShesaLovelyRedhead.esp=1VaultGirl.esp=1PowerRing.esp=1CraftableAnimationMarkers.esp=1TheCommonwealthCamper.esp=1ArmoryRifleAndHandgunRacks.esp=1This is MY Bed (Extended).esp=1DD_1x1_Foundation_Blocks.esp=1CBBE.esp=1FilledShelves.esp=1PowerArmorDisplayStations-CraftingCategory.esp=1Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp=1dinoshelf.esp=1dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp=1Wall Oil Lamps.esp=1DD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp=1zDarthVader.esp=1Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp=1GNAN.esp=1DLCWeaponsinCW.esp=1RedRocketReborn.esp=1Weapon Rack Extended.esp=1Craftable dogs.esp=1Quieter Settlements - Vanilla.esp=1Holsters & sheaths.esp=1Invisible_Guard_Marker.esp=1Better Settlement Defence.esp=1AutoUnequipPipboy.esp=1CROSS_Gear.esp=1Friffy_Holstered Weapons.esp=1TrenchGun.esp=1JC-Shirt and Jeans.esp=1zzjay_Wasteland attire.esp=1Crimsomrider's Tomb Raider.esp=1Crimsomrider's Tomb Raider Accessories.esp=1DRG_Statics_Plus.esp=1NoBOSVertibirdRandomEncounters.esp=1DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp=1extendedLightsWS - No shadows.esp=1Femsheppings Autumn Fashion.esp=1Colored Workshop Lights.esp=1FIXEDGoodfeels_no_DLC_needed.esp=1DWT_DocWeathers_and_Guards.esp=1DWT_Cricket_and_Guards.esp=1DWT_Lucas_and_Guards.esp=1DWT_PackBrahmin_Alternate.esp=1MoreWeaves.esp=1cartman1975_warehouse.esp=1CR_OuthouseCollection.esp=1MakeshiftBattery.esp=1OVT.esp=1EvilViking13_MinutemenMorale.esp=1NoVanillaRadiantDLCLocations.esp=1Housekeeping.esp=1BetterSettlers.esp=1BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp=1MMP4APA-blue.esp=1Insignificant Object Remover.esp=1Crimsomrider's Unique Furniture.esp=1SettleObjExpandPack.esp=1GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp=1Settlement_Markers.esp=1BTInteriors_Project.esp=1AkaInvisibleFurniture.esp=1ShelteredBeds.esp=1WeaponDisplays.esp=1OCDecorator.esp=1OCD FarHarborDLC.esp=1gloomyWeather.esp=1NoNegativeAffinityVanilla.esp=1MamaMurphyEdit.esp=1CREAtiveClutter.esp=1Thematic and Practical.esp=1DavesPoses.esp=1Companion Infinite Ammo.esp=13DNPC_FO4.esp=1Workless Shop.esp=1sunshine.esp=1VanillaExtensions.esp=1Eli_Crafting Shiz 9000.esp=1Spare Railroad as Institute.esp=1AdvSettleTurretSet.esp=1No Gore Environments.esp=1Cleaner Diamond City Indoor and Outdoor (No Fog).esp=1Bigger Settlements-Bigger1.esp=1FogOut Interiors - All DLC.esp=1My_Minutemen.esp=1M2216.esp=1ImmersiveGenericDialogues.esp=1EveryonesBestFriend.esp=1OverpassOverhaul.esp=1ImmersiveDrumlinDiner.esp=1Vault-Tec Food Solutions.esp=1Cleaner Far Harbor Environment Indoor and Outdoor (Default Fog).esp=1BlasTech E-11.esp=1DEOXstorm.esp=1Armorsmith Elianora.esp=1P220.esp=19mmPistol.esp=1DLCLetters.esp=1Rebuilt_Tenpines.esp=1RecruitableSettlers.esp=13DNPC_FO4_DLC.esp=1FunctionalBridges.esp=1SpectacleIsleBridge2.esp=1g2m_Workshop_Nexus.esp=1DrunkenGnomes_Gnomepocolypse.esp=1DOOMMerged.esp=1SkipHSH1_6.esp=1mtFarHarborHome.esp=1HolyMachete.esp=1M14.esp=1BetterStores.esp=1DWT_TrashcanCarla_and_Guards.esp=1X13_ScrapOTron.esp=1Tactical Flashlights.esp=1BetterShackBridges.esp=1DD_AIO Test Mark 1.esp=1CWSS Redux.esp=1BasementLiving.esp=1Campsite.esp=1Skibs-WH77Redux.esp=1BS-ExtraCustomProps.esp=1BS-FarHarborExpansion.esp=1Boats.esp=1CabinInTheWoods.esp=1FO4 NPCs Travel.esp=1Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp=1BetterJunkFences.esp=1CheatTerminal.esp=1M9.esp=1D13SynthSpyDetectionElimination.esp=1BlurKillerBase.esp=1Depth of Field Removal.esp=1SolarPower.esp=1Settler Sandbox Overhaul.esp=1Scrap Everything - Core.esp=1Scrap Everything - Far Harbor.esp=1Scrap Everything - Nuka World.esp=1CastleWallOldNorthBridgeFix.esp=1 Yea that does seem reasonable. I'll go back to a save before they moved there and just keep an eye out and see if it happens again. Maybe it was a one time hic-up

Sorry. I am at work just trying to research the problem. I'll have to post a load order when I get home. I was running problem free for a long time which is why I suspected one of those three mods as they were recent additions when I Started this playthrough. I am just lost as to how to trouble shoot the problem since they are there at the settlement and the save has them there so it doesn't matter what mods are activated anymore.