I'm sorry if I derailed this thread a little with talk of FO76; just wanted to add some context - because, and excuse me for this: I really hated FO4. Hated. The RPG element and linear plot and retconning was... well, soul-destroying for me. I loved the world and got to thinking of what I actually like about the FO3+ versions, and it is mainly exploration and immersion. FO4 had problems and I gave up pretty quickly - however, the FROST mod did bring me back in and I then began exploration and overcome the initial revulsion of FO4. From this, I then learned to love different mods (not all slooty) and it crystalised - for me - that a run-and-gun survival FPS in a really interesting world is what does draw me to this world. So, yes, reducing Fallout to a sandbox for me is fun - and yes... I'll stand up and say it: for me FO76 is more fun than FO4. While I wipe the rotten fruit from my face, let me please add this caveat: FO76 is an honest (read: brazen, cynical, commerical) move by Bethseda in that it is all about removing mods and clunky RPG elements, moving away from Steam to an online micro-transaction model. ...which is infuriating! FO3, FONV, FO4: look at the cities and mods made! Without modding, FO4 is horrible (for me) - but with it, it's the most-realised and beautiful of iterations (which chokes an old NV fan to admit). FO76 will fix all the bugs overtime and then pull up the rope-ladder and try to end this creative period of modding, which is a shame as the FO76 world is a beautiful map, genuinely. So for me, I HAVE to believe FO4 modding has a future, as we need that if we want to keep this world in our hands. So thankyou again. (PS: if nothing else, Bethesda need FO4 modders to source (steal) their FO76 fixes, right?)