Personman

Man, I can just hear some tech support operator asking me "Did you turn it off and on again?" in my head lol. Restarted my PC, Windows applied some updates and now everything is fine. Why? Who knows. The only thing I can think of at this point would be some sort of directx shenanigans, though that theory seems shaky seeing as MW uses such an old version of DX. Oh well. Mystery solved!? :huh:

So I've played well over 200 hours with this character with MGSO (yes, I'm aware it's outdated), MGE and many other mods and experienced no significant problems. But after exploring the latest Tamriel Rebuilt had to offer, putting the game down for a couple months, and coming back I get a massive FPS drop whenever I'm crouched. I'll go from 60fps to 8 in a few seconds, indoor or outdoors with and without distant land on. It's not save related, as reverting to an older save or starting a new character doesn't fix it. I even tried going into the Nvidia control panel and turned all Morrowind's settings to application controlled. I'm really at a loss here. In all my years of playing this game I've never had an issue like this. It could be mod related but I have my doubts it since it was literally fine until I took a break from it, but I'll post my load order for posterity's sake. Has anyone else ever encountered something like this? 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I've been using the Individual Item Auto Sorter script by IsharaMeradin to great success with getting some ingredient and food sorters working. I'm looking to expand on these sorters and adding sorters for clothes, armor, weapons, jewelry and gems. I would like to use formlists if possible for most of these, and according to his tutorial it should be possible, but I can't seem to get it working. I changed the property type to formlist[] and made a new formlist with the keywords ClothingRing and Clothing Necklace and the script compiles just fine. However, when I test it out it gives the failed to sort message. What am I missing here? This one is specifically for rings and amulets, just fyi.

I already started over with one of my characters and everything is pretty smooth so far. I uploaded my saves for you anyway if want to have a go at it still. The mysave.ess is the character who can't make manual saves after making the edits to that point. Jasper on the otherhand can save just fine, but he's the one who I can't apply all the edits to with SaveTool. And Camaro, it looks like I had updates tuned off on NMM and those patches were WAAAAAY out of date, hence why loot wasn't sorting them. I'm using the Midas Evolved update so that should be fine, and isn't SPIKE still used for Guard Dialog Overhaul and Complete Crafting Overhaul?

Well now I'm getting CTDs when I'm trying to make a manual save with the character I'm able to fully load into SaveTool with though. According to SCALPEL this is caused by making too many edits to my save :pinch:. I'll admit this is starting to get a bit frustrating. The character that CAN still makes saves is also getting CTDs on the item and map menus. GAH! Here's my log with the character that can't save:

I think I got it sorted out now, But I've yet to thoroughly test it for CTD. The biggest offender by far was Mark Books As Read, which was generating millions of lines of papyrus errors per second, which was literally eating all of my remaining harddrive space. (I never thought I would ever see a 46gb text file.) There seems to be an issue with SaveTool where I can't save any changes with one of my other characters. I'm able to load up an older save just fine, but once I make a new save to update the load list SaveTool won't save anything I do to it, and the left side where the character name is usually displayed is blank. Any idea why this might be happening?

I followed your guide to clean saves (I even waited the 31 days) and I've managed to get my log down to an open-able size, but it's still a bloated mess that sits at around 300mb. It seems that scripts I deleted with savegame cleaner are still showing up when I boot up skyrim again. Why would that happen? I'll post an abridged log here:

I've been doing a lot of modding to Skyrim recently and I'm having a (not too surprising) issue of frequent CTDs. I have the 4gb patch, and I'm running Realvision ENB and the latest version of SKSE. I've used LOOT to sort my mod list, have a merged patch running at the end of my load list and removed any mods that seemed to be a problem, but I'm still plagued by frequent, yet seemingly random CTDs. Sometimes it happens within the first few minutes of play and sometimes it will be fine for hours. It can happen when going into a menu, quicksaving, talking to someone or just doing nothing at all and it's driving me crazy! It does seem to be more frequent outside than indoors, however. Can someone take a look at my load order and tell me if there's any known trouble mod or conflict that would be causing all of my grief? It's as follows: Edit: I would post my papyrus log, but it seems to have bloated to well over a gb. After doing some reading this is probably from installing and uninstalling several mods over the course of playing. The biggest offender seems to be uninstalling imps more complex needs, as my logs were just a few kb beforehand. Is there any way to save my save or am will I have to start a new game? (I would really rather not if I can avoid it).

I've been trying to put in some potion racks in my house mod and I've run into a snag getting the formlists to work. I've been using the premade racks from this resource: http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/26729/? and none of the formlist values seem to register on the rack, giving a "You can only place potions on this shelf" message. I've followed the tutorial or the letter and The AddPotionsList, and PotionRackFoodList forms are added to the script on every PotionRackContainer. I even tried making my own formlists to no avail. Only the entrys with a keyword value seem to work with it. Here's a picture of the potion rack container script properties. Can anyone tell me if something's funky with it? http://imagizer.imag...6748/8xF8Nl.png