Did that. No joy. Is the old version of FOMM so big that you couldn't email it? I will be more than happy to E-mail you an older version I have backed up, When did he take down all the old versions, I have not checked yet, I am on 5 threads so I am boing, boing bounce,boing around. I don't know, except that the new one is from earlier this year. Despite the so-far disappointing results, I want to reassure you I appreciate your help. At least when I get around to re-installing W7, I'll know we tried everything. :thumbsup: