Hey vlaka, thanks for the reply. The thing is I want to keep the enb effects, and I know my system is more than capable of handling them, that's what makes this all so frustrating . Haha I'll toss SOS , also I've used loot to manage my load order. Is loot known to make mistakes once in awhie? I'll lower the memory size, I have 16gb Ram and 4096mb of vram on my video card, is the number you recommended appropriate for my hardware?