Garak84

I just got Dead Money and now my game crashes constantly. I haven't set foot in the bunker or started the DLC quest yet. I was on Veronica's quest and had just reached the cabin where you upload the info on the items she wants to find for the Brotherhood. First, the game crashed three or four times when I tried to go inside. Now it's crashing immediately on startup after I left. I've disabled all my mods, and I've never had so many crashes before, so I'm sure it's Dead Money. Anyone have any ideas?

I've reloaded several times already without success. Thanks for the link, though. :)

I was doing the quest from the Sheogorath shrine to get his artifact (from vanilla Oblivion, not Shivering Isles), and it was going fine until the part where you summon the rats and then talk to Ri'bassa to see if he thinks they're part of this prophecy. He seems to be acting normally, but my quest won't update to show that he bought it, and give me the next part. Is there a console command I can use to force the quest to the next stage?

Pure awesomeness! I can't wait to try it out! 8)

This is awesome news. Thank you very much for working on it!

setstage didn't work as I expect. Can someone experienced with quest system tell me the trigger conditions? I experimented with several console commands, but could only get it to count the quest completed, but not enable Mr. House to recognize it and give me the next step, effectively breaking his entire questline.

Well, Obsidian apparently disagrees, since they originally included the option. Even the published player's guide includes a reference to the diplomatic option. I'd also disagree with your assessment of Mr. House. So far, he seems like the closest thing to a good path in the game to me. The NCR puts on a good show, but it's increasingly clear as you go along that the leadership is corrupt and power hungry. And the Brotherhood, while certainly not evil, is not good by any stretch of the imagination, either. Personally, I want to save them because I like them, not because I think they're great people. I'm not exactly sure how you could even say House is good. Well-meaning? Maybe. But he's most certainly not good, considering that he has no qualms about killing anybody and everybody who he views to be a threat to his hold on New Vegas or his vision for its future. He's morally ambiguous, in my opinion; he believes what he's doing is right, and in many ways, it is, if you're only looking at it from the economic standpoint, but his willingness to crush the opposition through force and stifle civil liberties doesn't for a good person make. I didn't say he was good. I said siding with him is the "closest thing to a good path". Anyway, whatever, I just want another option in the game. Not like I'm asking for a godcheat weapon or something, lol.

Well, Obsidian apparently disagrees, since they originally included the option. Even the published player's guide includes a reference to the diplomatic option. I'd also disagree with your assessment of Mr. House. So far, he seems like the closest thing to a good path in the game to me. The NCR puts on a good show, but it's increasingly clear as you go along that the leadership is corrupt and power hungry. And the Brotherhood, while certainly not evil, is not good by any stretch of the imagination, either. Personally, I want to save them because I like them, not because I think they're great people.

I saw that before, too, but it's not the same thing. That mod lets the Brotherhood ally with the NCR even if Hardin is in control. It doesn't affect the quest from Mr. House at all.

This would be most appreciated, thank you. :biggrin:

Well, Mr. House himself says flat out that the NCR could wipe him out, if you follow his quest line. The only reason they don't is that it was pull resources from the fight with Caesar and leave their position vulnerable. House's entire hold on power pretty much relies on keeping these two forces in a position of relative parity. So it's not like the game is actually presenting the Strip as impregnable. However, I agree that it could stand to be bigger. I'd like all the towns to be bigger, for that matter.

So, yeah... anyone know how to make a mod like this? Pretty please with a cherry on top? ;)

Is anyone making (or has made) a mod like the one for Fallout 3 that makes it so sleeping NPCs don't have supernatural powers of detection, even against sneaking characters?

In reality, tho, how is House doing anything new? He's made himself a dictatorial despot, and, as history has show, it eventually leads to social unrest and bloodshed. That said, I agree it annoys me that there's no choice to get the Brotherhood to side with House. In a sense, it makes sense because House wants total control of the Nevada region and sees the BoS as a threat to his control, hence his orders to wipe them out, but that shouldn't prevent the player from telling the Brotherhood to vacate to another region, particularly if the player has already gotten in good with them. I'd be happy with something as simple as "<Lie> Yes, I blew them up.", so I can continue the game. I'm still on my first playthrough and I've stalled because I want to do Mr. House's storyline, but I can't bring myself to kill the BoS. Alternately, how/can I use the console to cheat past the quest? Everything I've tried gives me credit for completing it, but doesn't register with House, so I can't get the next quest. He'd be able to test the lie by sending his robots to Hidden Valley to see if they still get wiped out by BoS patrols, though. Any ability to save the BoS has to include them either moving elsewhere, or being persuaded to avoid contact with House's henchmen. Depends on how realistic you want it, heh. That could be fixed by adding a Speach check to Elder McNamara/Hardin (depending on how you play out that questline) to convince them to avoid the Securitrons, as you suggest. Make the speach check for Hardin more difficult to reflect his more aggressive nature. P.S. Not really related: Does Veronica attack you if you blow up the bunker? She's my companion and that's another reason I don't want to do it.

In reality, tho, how is House doing anything new? He's made himself a dictatorial despot, and, as history has show, it eventually leads to social unrest and bloodshed. That said, I agree it annoys me that there's no choice to get the Brotherhood to side with House. In a sense, it makes sense because House wants total control of the Nevada region and sees the BoS as a threat to his control, hence his orders to wipe them out, but that shouldn't prevent the player from telling the Brotherhood to vacate to another region, particularly if the player has already gotten in good with them. I'd be happy with something as simple as "<Lie> Yes, I blew them up.", so I can continue the game. I'm still on my first playthrough and I've stalled because I want to do Mr. House's storyline, but I can't bring myself to kill the BoS. Alternately, how/can I use the console to cheat past the quest? Everything I've tried gives me credit for completing it, but doesn't register with House, so I can't get the next quest.