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Yes, Finns showed that they are capable and good fighters by repelling the Red Army in Talvisota, strong, loyal, protective and disciplined. All thanks to Mannerheim, he was a great commander, though, everything he knew, he learned in Russia in his younger days.. His defending line was impressive indeed, a bit exaggerated in his words and the words of the press back in the day, but an impressive counter strategy and tactics using little resources, nonetheless. And thanks to Voroshilov's incapability, you could vow all those victories in the first half of the war. But Voroshilov was replaced. And Mannerheim line was crushed. And you lost it, eventually. And you lost along with your nazi allies at the gates of Stalingrad. That's war. We all pick different sides and we all have different opinions, which is quite natural for us humans. We can't change the history, we can't erase what happened in the past... But we can change ourselves. 'Forgive, but don't forget' . That's better then 'Never trust a russian', if you agree. Enemies are everywhere, by the way, from all directions, it depends of your own position and an interest of your enemy. It's not closely tied with a nationality, trust me on that. Be proud of your heroes, they deserve it. But never take pride up and high too much, it tends to become hate sometimes. Greetings from a half serbian/half russian guy. Stay cool, Moranda
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Matter of opinion. If someone should shoot and kill a rapist, caught in the act, I see that as a "good thing". I would kill a rapist, because I find it as necessity, I would kill him in order to save someones life and sanity. But I don't find it good, when I take someone's life. I'd feel like an 80's action movie addict with a cocky attitude. A matter of opinion.
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I've read all the answers on the examples which I gave earlier. Aurelius explained it good and I think everyone should read what he wrote on my questions. These examples are actually a small psychology test, which I ran into somewhere in the past. Anyways, I will give a few lectures about this subject, only as my opinion, based on the wisdom I gathered through my experiences and I will do it, because I think I am enough competent to do that. 1. First of all, if you pull a gun out of your pocket, be ready to shoot and kill. Don't draw it to wound someone or to shoot in the air. If you do that stuff, you are a disgrace for the sword that you picked and you are not worth of one. 2. Killing people as an act of revenge doesn't make it bad because it is revenge, it makes it bad because it won't change the past and it will be just one more weight for your shoulders to carry to the rest of your life. 3. People who are badly wounded and ask you to ease their pain should be listened. Dying is a very painful and bizzare process, a man is fighting for his last breath, in a great fear. If you find yourself in such situation, do it, but do try to not to perform it directly. Better to say something or to point your finger in other other direction, which would distract the person, so that person won't know what will happen next. And do this only if you are asked to do it. 4. If you are a soldier, it is quite normal to kill people. If the war comes to you, you must defend your , love, family and land from the enemy. Though, going into another country and killing people because they are bad in the eyes of your lords is not good. No one has rights to interfere in others business. Let them to deal with it on their own. 5. Killing a man who puts you and your family in a life danger is a necessity. Kill him immediately. When you finish it, approach to the body, close his eyes and call the police to report everything. 6. Don't try to play rough with a gun wielding robber in a store if you are not experienced fighter. You are putting lives in danger if you try to play a hero. Maybe he is faster then you, so you could be the one to go down, instead of him. Try to talk it out first until someone calls the police while you have him busy, maybe a man isn't a deranged criminal, maybe he doesn't have anything to fed his family, maybe he is in an affect state of mind, some prison would do good for him. If you can't talk it out, then he is a dangerous person and you should listen to the instructions. If he shows himself as a maniac who will kill you all after he finish with robbing the store, act swiftly and try to pick a good moment for it. Put him down. 7. If you are called up for a fair fight by a stronger , violent man, and you have a weapon and he doesn't- throw your weapon far away, put up your guard and fight. Play fair even if you know that you will lose and get yourself in a long time in hospital. You won't be emberrassed. By throwing your weapon in front of him and saying that you will fight, you will prove yourself that you are a true warrior. It's nothing to be ashamed of if you lose a fight for honor. 8. Killing a man in the name of promotion, material or sexual interest, jealousy or anything similar is a deed of a sociopath or someone who has a deep psychiatric problem. If you have thoughts like this and you are fully aware of yourself, report yourself to the police and doctors immediately. 9. If you and your company is in danger from a gang of thugs, and you see that it could go lethal, pull your gun out and shoot them all, not in the knees, not in the stomach. In the heart area or head, asap. Then face the consequences of justice, afterwards. 10. If a psychopath killed your loved one, or loved ones, and he got punished for it, but you don't see it enough, don't go to his home to shoot his loved ones. They are not guilty for his crimes. Only beasts can whip a whole family or someones love. Don't be one. 11. Don't go and get a job as an executor. You don't need that in your life. If you are already in the army or law enforcement and you must perform as a shooter of someone convicted on court martial, then do it. If you a a farmer and currently out of job and the firing squad is the only job around, try some other place or die in hunger, just don't be the executor. The point is- We, humans, can act based on our instinct or our sanity. In both cases, we perform or calculate before the performance, but the result is the same. We kill or not. If we do, we find it as necessity. That is a natural act of a human. If we do it for fun, we aren't humans. In both cases, killing people is a bad thing and it is not ok. Why? Yes, it is natural to permanently remove a threat to your family. But the very act is the most darkest, gruesome and bizzare thing which you ever have experienced. To extinguish someone's life, to see how he's been separating himself from his soul is an act will be an open wound til the rest of your life. Shorter- Killing a man can be a necessity, but never to be declared as an ok thing to do. Moranda
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Serbian here. I am half serbian, half russian. I am proud of the history of my country, our warriors and our beautiful females, our food and drinks, our sport and culture. The list is almost endless. And yes Aurelius, Serbs indeed stopped the Ottomans, but not in 1593. Ottomans got their final stopage in 1699 by the Habsburg Empire, since then they never came back to their former glory. Then Serbs and Bulgarians pushed them out completely from Balkan in the First Balkan War in the beginning of the 20th century. I am proud on that, too. Good fortune to everyone. Moranda
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I have a very short answer to that. Some people are cruel to animals, because they don't have guts to be the same way with humans. Speaking of animals, I raised a wild rabbit and she is 9 years old now. Her name is Mesec (spelled 'Mesetz'), which means 'Moon' in serbian language. The name rhymed with 'zec' (spelled 'zetz), which means 'rabbit' in serbian, so I found it funny and nice to give her that name. Here she is. Good that I started with Flickr recently, as I can't upload anymore photos on here, due to image share limit. Animals makes a man happy. It was the time when I worked more then now on rather dangerous jobs and this precious creature was the only one to be joyful to see me, when I come back home from work. I owe her my life. And those who are cruel to animals, doesn't deserve a place on this planet, not to mention to grew a family of their own. Moranda
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What can be done to stop the violence on the Mexican/Amerian border
DariusMoranda replied to kvnchrist's topic in Debates
An iron fist, on both sides, who has a mutual goal-to stop the drug wars and people getting killed on daily basis. Moranda -
It really depends of a personal opinion. For some it is, for others it isn't alright. It is much deeper then the people think and see it is. It's not the question only about morality, it is more of a psychological nature. Let's take a couple of examples, shall we? 1. You're coming back home from work, where you find your family tied up by an armed burglar. He has an assault rifle in his hands and he fores you down to the floor. The burglar makes it clear that he will kill all of you after he finishes with robbing your home. You remember that you have a gun in a drawer in a counter right next to the spot where you are being held as a hostage. The burglar turns his back on you and your family to fins some more rope to tie you up. The drawer is open, he didn't see that gun inside. What will you do? 2. You came out from a bar with your girl, went down to the dark alley where the parking lot is, and all of a sudden, 6 guys comes right at you, spitting, insulting and touching your girl in an inappropriate way. They are a bunch of low morality street thugs, possibly some gang members and they are armed with cold weaponry, a couple of knives and some steel chains. They seem tensed and they want to make you a problem, but you don't know are they in a kill mood or in a torture mood. You have a gun under your coat for protection. What will you do? 3. You are working for a huge company for 10 years and it is your turn to get promoted and to move to another city. You worked hard for all those years, and luxury of the new working place is at the top of your fingertips. More money, more comfort for your family members, 2 new cars, a big house and a dreamlike neighborhood. But there is a guy who is a son of the company's owner. He didn't have to work all those years, yet, he jumped in front of you to take your place. And he will get it, you know it, everyone is talking about it. As you went for a lunch break outside at the terrace, you see that guy right at the edge, being unaware that someone is behind him there. It's pretty tall building, you are standing at the 30th floor. 'Accidents' are possible, right? What will you do? 4. You are a soldier. A man in a foreign, distant country is accused for all sorts of crime. All the news are talking about it, all the papers are writing about him, some sources are pulling out some proofs of his crimes, etc. But you feel it all shady, something doesn't seem to be right. You are being sent to hunt the man down. You fight your way through the hell of war, back and forth, then you pierce with your unit and enter his home. He is right there, and all of his family is sitting next to him, sons, daughters, wife and grandchildren. You have an order to shoot him on sight. The order that you must fulfill includes his children and wife. Only the grandchildren have to survive. Your best buddy next to you will rat you out to your sarge, if you don't do it. He is pushing you to do it. If not- court marshal is waiting for you. You look at the man and his family, right in the eyes and you must pick quickly. What will you do? 5. You are running through the streets, there is a total collapse of the law enforcement in your city, strikes everywhere. Anarchy rules your world now. There are armed people everywhere, no food, lack of water and hospitals are empty. You find a poor man, innocent man, shot in the liver area, black blood is coming out of his stomach. He has exactly one hour or little less to live and he will die in a great pain and fear. You are feeling sorry for that old man. He begs you to help him, to relief his pain, because there is no hope for him. You have a gun on yourself. What will you do? 6. You come into a store to buy a pack of ciggies , where you see a criminal with a shotgun, holding the clerks as hostages. You are right next to him and he threatens to you that he will shoot if you move. Then he focuses again to the clerks. You have a knife and he doesn't sees you good. What will you do? 7. You were asked for a fair fight, a fist fight by a very strong man, violent man. You can't escape it, everyone is watching you and they expect you to fight with him. You are in front of a club and he is preparing himself to attack you. He threatens to you that he will break every bone you have and that he will put you in a hospital for at least 6 months. You know that he is serious and that he done that before, so he is able to perform such an act. No one wants to call the cops and you don't have a cellphone. He is faster then you, so he will catch you if you try to run. But you have a big army knife on you. What will you do? 8. Some maniac killed your fiance, 2 days before the wedding, it happened 3-4 years ago. he was released by the authorities in a lack of evidence and lack of justice. All that mess left a scar on your heart and mind, you still can't sleep good after all that time that passed. You miss your fiance like crazy. You can't stop thinking about your fiance's death and being helpless in the hands of a terrible murderer. As you walk down the park to relax a bit, you see that guy, sitting at the bench, reading newspapers. You see a baseball bat nearby at the ground, some guys are hitting a round or two for fun. What will you do? 9. The same maniac killed your fiance 2 days before the wedding, it happened 3-4 years ago. The law gave him justice for his act of crime, by sending him to a life sentence in prison. He never show remorse for what he did and his own girl came to defend him at the court as well. She is a junky and he is a drunkard, they are really bad couple, violent and hateful. After a couple of years, you walk down the park and you see his girl, who laughed at you in the courtroom, sitting on a bench, being high. She doesn't recognize you. You have a gun. What will you do? 10. You have no proper education, therefore you don't have much chance to get a decent job. Your wife just gave a birth to a son/daughter. You can't support them enough for even the basic stuff, such as food. And you are in a great debt to the bank and loan sharks, as well. You live in a small town, where there is no jobs for you. Though, the local prison is hiring people for a firing squads, to perform death penalties. It's the only job you have found, there is non around except that one. The money is good. Would you apply? Moranda
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[WIP] Darkshines - The Lonely Journey
DariusMoranda replied to runway's topic in Oblivion's Discussion
I am thrilled to see a big project like this for Oblivion! I haven't been here for quite a while and this is sure a refreshment to see. Screens are awesome and the trailer caught my attention immediately, the story is very interesting.. I wish you the best with your mod, it has a big potential, use it at the maximum and you'll combat with the legendary mods on here, I have no doubts in that. :thumbsup: Moranda -
I don't have to look in the dictionary, because I am serbian, Serbia was ruled by despots through history, and that was just a title, it exist here since Emperor Dushan The Mighty. In Byzantine Empire , it was a common title, nothing else. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Despot_%28court_title%29 and example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Lazarevi%C4%87 That's Despot Stefan Lazarevic. ''''Stefan Lazarević (Serbian: Стефан Лазаревић) known also as Stevan the Tall (Стеван Високи, l. 1374 – 19 July 1427) was a Serbian Despot, ruler of the Serbian Despotate between 1389 and 1427. Despot Stefan was a poet and a moderniser. His reign and his personal literary works are sometimes associated with early signs of the Renaissance in Serbian lands. He introduced knightly tournaments, modern battle tactics, and firearms to Serbia.'''' As for libyan protesters, they could have find another solution, boycott, peaceful walks or public meetings every day, instead of chopping heads and and taking hands for trophies, closing women in mosques and forcing them to have their faces covered all the time, without permission to go out. Gaddafi led a bloodless<<<<revolution back when he overthrew the King. If a 'mad dictator' could make a coup without a single blood drop to fall on the ground, then these newborn killers could have made it the same. Update- There was a public meeting in London in support for Colonel Gaddafi and it wasn't on the news, though, there are pictures everywhere on the internet.
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The fact is, I don't support autocrat regimes, I support iron law, that is just one of the many segments in one regime. I wouldn't kill my political opponents if I were a ruler, nor I would put them in prison or have them expelled from the country. If people aren't satisfied with my rule, I would step down, without waiting for elections to take care of me. But if a mass gathers and wants your head for no reason, calling their meeting a peaceful revolution, then I would act seriously. No killing innocents or killing at all if it is not needed, such rigorous ways are the last option in dealing with those kind of situations. Why would anyone kill people if not provoked and pushed over the limit with a situation which is life threatening? I'd sent some serious police force and impose some discipline, until we sit down and to resolve the situation peacefully. And yes, Serbs were massacred in Vojvodina. By a foreign <<<<< force, not internal one. They were killed on direct order of Hitler and the rest of Axis gang. They were killed in ways beyond a nightmare. Gaddafi didn't threw his people in a frozen river, nor he made them to swallow rusty nails, neither called on a mass rape or killing little kids with hammers, for no reason. He didn't kill 70 000 people for his own amusement. He is fighting a war over there, and in war, people die. On both sides. They die from bullets , shells, mines, etc. They don't have to torture each other just to be dead, they shoot on each other , simple as that. He did a fair game tonight. Offered the rebels to leave the country in peace. And I do believe that many of them will leave their strongholds without worrying about their lives. He could have call upon a total extermination, but he didn't. That makes him different then the dictators you think he is connected with. Describing like you do, I imagine someone like Pol Pot, not Gaddafi. And there is a huuuuge difference between the two. Libyan war is over tomorrow, hopefully, and I do hope that people will walk Libya freely again and to work their jobs and spend time with families. It is a long road to recover, but it can be done with a good will and dedication . Moranda He's fighting a war against his own people, he's killing them so he can cling on to power. The term "Despot" fits him prefectly. I feel sorry for those who stood up to him, no doubt they will soon be disappeared. Actually, rebels fired a first shot and police responded with force, then rebels started to rob the stores and to steal weaponry from the police stations and army bases, with many of them being armed already. 'Despot' is not a term, it is a title of a ruler in Byzantine Empire and Serbian Empire from medieval times. It defines someone who is a huge land owner, not a dictator or an autocrat.
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The fact is, I don't support autocrat regimes, I support iron law, that is just one of the many segments in one regime. I wouldn't kill my political opponents if I were a ruler, nor I would put them in prison or have them expelled from the country. If people aren't satisfied with my rule, I would step down, without waiting for elections to take care of me. But if a mass gathers and wants your head for no reason, calling their meeting a peaceful revolution, then I would act seriously. No killing innocents or killing at all if it is not needed, such rigorous ways are the last option in dealing with those kind of situations. Why would anyone kill people if not provoked and pushed over the limit with a situation which is life threatening? I'd sent some serious police force and impose some discipline, until we sit down and to resolve the situation peacefully. And yes, Serbs were massacred in Vojvodina. By a foreign <<<<< force, not internal one. They were killed on direct order of Hitler and the rest of Axis gang. They were killed in ways beyond a nightmare. Gaddafi didn't threw his people in a frozen river, nor he made them to swallow rusty nails, neither called on a mass rape or killing little kids with hammers, for no reason. He didn't kill 70 000 people for his own amusement. He is fighting a war over there, and in war, people die. On both sides. They die from bullets , shells, mines, etc. They don't have to torture each other just to be dead, they shoot on each other , simple as that. He did a fair game tonight. Offered the rebels to leave the country in peace. And I do believe that many of them will leave their strongholds without worrying about their lives. He could have call upon a total extermination, but he didn't. That makes him different then the dictators you think he is connected with. Describing like you do, I imagine someone like Pol Pot, not Gaddafi. And there is a huuuuge difference between the two. Libyan war is over tomorrow, hopefully, and I do hope that people will walk Libya freely again and to work their jobs and spend time with families. It is a long road to recover, but it can be done with a good will and dedication . Moranda
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1364054/Muammar-Gaddafis-sons-linked-2-UK-universities.html http://www.france24.com/en/20110304-london-school-economics-lse-gaddafi-university-business-donations-howard-davies-uk http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8374305/Libya-Leeds-University-latest-to-disclose-ties-with-Gaddafi-regime.html http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/gaddafi-son-tells-sarkozy-to-return-money/story-e6frf7jx-1226022932520 And many, many more. I can't even count how many links I got, these are just a few examples. And of course, Gaddafi himself studied in Great Britain in his youth. Brits have a long military history and they posses fine military schools, I don't think that Colonel forgot the places where he expanded his knowledge. Aurelius- Civilian insurgents have help from uniforms since the start of this whole mess. I agree on the poor training but they aren't all lacking the knowledge. There are many , many experienced fighters among them, fundamentalists and mercenaries from neighbor states, involved in terrorism til their necks, they know shock war and demolition quite good. I agree that they are weaker now then Gaddafi's army, but they were stronger in the start, they had much more advantages in many aspects , compares to Moammar. They caught him unready and prepared and they pushed a huge line there, took over major cities , strategic and tactical keys everywhere. They just didn't know how to finish it. That is a gravely mistake in military aspect, which costs a lot and will cost much more then they can handle. They pushed the wrong button, leaning on imaginary shoulders of the world powers, thinking that they will overthrow Gaddafi like it was done in Egypt and Tunis. Now what? They are getting floored on an hour basis , not daily basis anymore. And, you know, I don't blame them for this war. I blame them for stupidity and not caring for the people, just someone's interest. I strongly believe that these people are being used as cannon meat, nothing else. Though, they will be the ones who will pay a high price, not those shadows in the corner of their rooms, unfortunately. Rebels are separated from their downfall with just a few days. And I feel pity for them, because or the stupidity, their own lives are at steak. It is a sad thing when people die over nothing. If it was for anything else then power, it would be honor in my eyes. This what they done to their own land... You know, it really makes me sad. Libya was rich and a good place to live for their people. Now the streets are filled with ashes and stone. That's indeed a huge waste. Ruins become beautiful with time passing by, but the ways of making the ruins are not beautiful at all. I don't support torture, I never performed such an act nor I would, but I think that angry people on Gaddafi's side will demand a rough press on the orchestrators, so, in my opinion, the dark hours will come to the prisoners who will fall under regime's fist. Those ones who were satisfied with their country before this, has every right to demand punishment for those who tried to rip apart that painting. Uprising in Hungary in 1956 was organized and performed by ex fascist and nazi renegades who mercilessly ruled the Balkan parts in WW2. They commit atrocities against Serbs in Vojvodina, killing thousands by throwing them into a frozen river, after cutting of their hands , feet and chair rape, also , tied up in a barbed wire. They made people to do pushups over the half buried bayonet, even. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Vojvodina,_1941-1944 with the details. 'Nice' folks. They got their nose rubbed for that by Yugoslavian army and Soviets later , then they became angry again. Then they got their prize again. Imre Nagy was a double agent between Hungarian nationalists and Stalin's NKVD. Paul Meleter was an invader on Stalingrad and one of famous war criminals , who served viciously under Horty's regime.He , as well, was trained by Soviets after his arrest and sent back to fight his own ex comrades. Both of them were two faced players, who wanted cookies on both sides. That kind of people usually end up miserably, like these two did. They were guilty for many deaths in their career, before the revolution. As for my brothers Slovaks and Czechs, they had a revolution because they coudln't stand each other , between the two people. It wasn't only because or a repressive regime, it was more a lack of tolerance to each other, which saddens me greatly. As for totalitarian regimes, I don't support them. I support strong arm when it comes to big problems, only that. And of course I have read the book. I am a big fan of the movie as well with Hurt and Burton, as well as being a huge fan or electro/pop/dark wave music giants Eurythmics, they have the song names 1984 which was included in the movie, I love the song, too. The book describes something much more then totalitarianism. It is more of an absolute/cult/obsessive regime, something that I would't like to really exists on this planet, it is a level above then the level known to human. Gaddafi's a summer cold compares to the thing in the book and movies. I know more good things about him then bad, he isn't perfect, he is eccentric and theatrical sometimes, l but he's fair and his word is valued, what he says , he does, at least he is honest that much in the world of politics, the nest of liars and manipulators. And he's one sharp dresser. ;) j/k Moranda Small update-Benghazi is ready to fall. Libyan tanks and artillery is occupying the region, with leaving the eastern corridor free, for the rebels to escape to the egyptian border. Colonel said that they will not chase them down, nor kill them, they asked rebels to leave , never to return. They have deadline to leave and it seems that the opposition leaders are starting to crack down.
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Gaddafi financed half of the world with oil and riches, one of the most famous is Great Britain, more then half of universities in Britain was financed by Gaddafi and it is very well known. Today, France is raising their voices against their former oil vein Libya, as their oil contract expired last year. It's the same with everyone else, they want a piece of this cake, but, bad news, they will not achieve it. I saw great results of Colonel in his own country, and rebels are not in a big number compares with the government supporters, actually, there is more those who support Gaddafi in there, then the insurgents. That is because people there know what he did for their country. The rest who tried to take over are bunch of radical animals, traitors and deserters. They even took a victiorious picture near a crashed airplane with the pilot's body still inside. And guess what? He didn't have head on his shoulders on the picture. Truly a 'democratic' ways to gain 'freedom' from a 'dictator and a madman'. The ways of democracy amaises me more and more , day by day. When this picture unfolds completely and Khamis brigade have their hands on the leaders of this blatant and uneccessary 'uprising', they are, hopefully, beat out the confession out of them, about who financed all this mess for real. For what it is financed, we all know very well, it's for more money, power and oil. And the best thing is, that Misrata is falling from te rebel hands today. Next station- Beghazi! http://www.thenexusforums.com/public/style_emoticons/dark/thumbsup.gif And that would be the end of mighty and glorious rebel movement of Libya. I say, flee , better then to wait for an upcoming ridiculous punishment for the crimes against the state. For their own sake , if they worry about their lives. If not, then die like men, not like cowards, calling for help of the world powers. 'If the opposition disarms, all is well and good. If not.. we shall disarm it ourselves.' Moranda
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Libya Wars 2:The Empire Strikes Back Gaddafi's forces took over major strategic points today, and took over some of the previous lost positions from the rebels. Also, around 100 mercenaries landed in Ras Lanuf via fishing boats, smashing the rebels, even being outnumbered. News aren't giving right information about rebel repel, there is non at the moment, tanks weren't present for rebels to seize them nor enough menpower on their opposite side to make such a huge arrest. Government forces took over Zawiya near Tripoli and unloaded a couple of air attacks on rebel positions nearby. Currently, rebels are begging for help from the others, even an air attack to slow down Gaddafi's fighters. With all due respect for both sides, I think asking for help is not an honorable thing to do, they got help from the deserters from police and army and they are filled with weaponry of all kinds, they should put up a fight till the end. This thing should be disputed between the two sides and no one else, rebels asked for war , they have one now, and war is not a game where you can say 'I don't want it anymore'. They are in advance in many fields , the biggest ace in the sleeve is the number of menpower, but it seems that they can't use their advances properly. Colonel Muammar 'Darth Vader' Gaddafi is not giving up, that's the spirit. Thumbs up!
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This 'war' is orchestrated by a third party, as many before this one, my people and myself experienced the same hegemony in Yugoslavian war 1991-1995 and Kosovo War 1996-2002. The so called 'poor and righteous rebels' were armed and sent against the state, the state responded with force, and the state was found guilty for it's actions, the third party used media for that properly and served all kinds of scams to those who were watching, and with those actions, they threw a puddle of mud in our faces, never to be washed away. Lies, plotting and judging without any reason, except the financial and strategic interest. The same scenario is in Libya. But I am not tricked by it. I was in Libya for 4 times, as I mentioned in one of my posts. Nothing was wrong there, that was a land without poor people. They lived with more freedom then in many democratic states all over the globe that I personally was introduced. There is a whole misconception about that, because the media is in control and favor of the 'poor rebels and the voice of freedom'. Also, Colonel Gaddafi is not a nutcase nor a violent man at all. He led his own revolution over 40 years ago against the vicious royal family who's justice was based on decapitating people in the streets for various crimes. And he won , without any blood spilled, a bloodless revolution it was. He gave his people free education and free health care. Women rights were repressed in the former kinggom, but Gaddafi took care of it too, making them more with their looks and general activity , he installed them in every structure of the state. Colonel Gaddafi loved his people and gave everything for his country. He is not a perfect leader and not a god, but he is better then many leaders of this world, he proved it with good actions in his past. He is far from a dictator as he is presented in media and the last thing he wanted is this situation he has in the country where he was born and raised, where he made his military career and where he raised his children. Also, when no one wanted to even see my own country on the map, he offered his helping hand and was always loyal to us, for many, many years, since Tito's time even. Food, clothing, weapons, menpower, everything he could , he sent to help us in a great struggle we had, as we were alone against the whole world.He gave jobs for thousands of my countrymen in his land and many of them worked even for him, 3 of my ex colleagues worked personally for him, my woman's aunt was a nurse to the family, personally. Many of my countrymen stayed there even in these time of crisis, and I have first hand information that the struggle over there is not that big like it is presented in the media and that the rebels aren't so righteous and nice at all. Many of them are commanded by radical fundamentalists and they recently closed all of their women in mosques , with a strict order not to get out and to cover their faces. They do the same like these scum here did back in the 90's, they chop heads, loot , rape and torture their opponents, there is no honor in that nor a righteous path should be written in blood spilled in such ways. Colonel had every right to respond with force as the threat is big, many lives are at steak , the whole country is, along with all the natural riches Libya has. I would do the same as he did- ' You want OUR oil to give to someone else? I gave that oil to YOU! You benefit from it, it is YOURS! This is YOUR country. This is YOUR people. And I am YOUR leader, I gave you food and medicine at the table, you drive your car because i gave you right to EARN that, you married your woman and you could do it normally , without fear that someone will see her face, and that is what I <<< made it possible. You want more? You want me dead after I fed you and took care of you? Alright, brother. Hold your pants. An order the to army general for a full assault, marshal law for 30 days and cutting off of supplies and every basic need.' It is a sad thing to see that people are throwing rocks at someone who threw bread on them. But money talks and that is the real picture of today, people are greedy and hungry for more and more. Is it oil? is it gold? What is it precisely? It is not important. There is no price , no money nor a precious material which can pay a life of a human. ONE LIFE, just one is worth more then the whole pile of money of this planet. If Colonel loses his battle , then it is done. Either radicals will come onto power instead, or so called 'democratic government for prosperity and transition' will be installed by the third party, either one of those, the same thing both will suck up Libya til the very end, for someone's interest. I hope that will not happen, I truly hope that Libya will stay alive with it's own identity, never to let anyone else to interfere or to command in their own territory. I was taught and raised to be loyal with honor and if I can't do more, I will at least speak in a favor of my country's true friend and a brother. I wish I can pick up my old gear and to go there and to defend the land which defended mine once, but life circumstances are merciless in this moment. I wish all the luck and strength of this world to Colonel and may he fight a good fight, if he dies , may he dies easy and on the soil where he had his first steps. I thank him for all his help on behalf of my people and may he mop down the foreign terror and those poor excuses of humans, the traitors of their own land. No one has rights to interfere is someone else business, especially not if it is a poor motive such as money, like it is in this real example. I understand death in honor, for a woman's hand, for country, for defending your family, for children and their future... but thousands being dead for money? Those deaths has no point, they are useless and will become only a statistic on someone's financial board. That saddens me beyond words. The world watches, and sooner or later, the real truth and picture will come up and the world will know then, who was right in this war. If it comes to that, you die as a martyr , Colonel Gaddafi, your friends here are with you and support you , same as you were with us. We never forget our brothers. *Salutes* Moranda