I think this is working guys ... Tackling one place at a time I mean and talking to everybody and taking things SLOWLY. I have had a fresh start, done Helgen bit. Concentrated in getting Riverood done, now need to see the Jarl of Whiterun about the dragon. You HAVE to follow this route, more or less, if you want to get anywhere in the plot. You need your Breezhome for a start. So I am going to get as far as the call from the Greybeards and then get involved with the civil war. Contrary to what is normally suggested up here, it looks to me as if you have to get the civil war out of the way, or at least going that way early in the game. I shall endeavour to tackle all the cities as I go and all the city quests also. Not sure if this will work out as planned ..but it looks a good idea here. Not sure when I will join the war, or on who's side. but e will see how things develop here! :turned: