rjoseph700

Both of you have made valid points. and I accept your rationale on events. However working in the mental health field I do realise the importance of doing things that keep you with positive mental health one of those would be looking after your home environment more. I think where the Fallout 4 has missed the boat is that farmers would most likely have banded together knowing they were living outside a defended settlement such as Diamond City. If we look at America's history there is classic examples of people banding together in commune like environments to support one another and for defensive purposes. I accept what you both said about these are not really farmers as we know American farmers today just escaped townies having a go. However both of you have neglected acknowledging my point that the most likely farmers not excluding the wannabe farmers mentioned would be genuine descents of farmers. As mentioned in my previous post they are more likely to be survivors to nuclear bombs then city dwellers unless of course you're a farmer in North dakota farming right next to the missle silos. As an ex North Dakotan I am keenly aware that the government didn't have a concern for farmers in that State as they decided to put a lot of America's missile silos right out there in farming country which of course are big targets for strikes. The irony of it was Dakota has a lot of fertile farmland and making all that radioactive would certainly not contribute to rebuilding the nation. I believe they did the same thing down in Kansa another fertile farming area. Of the many things I like about the game which I think is the best game out there at the moment and yet it scares me is that it actually reflects geo-political activity currently happening. America and China are moving closer to a war in real life over two issues Taiwan and economics. Lets just hope that Fallout 4 does not become a reality in our real world.

One thing that bugs me about the Fallout 4 game is gamers and the game team that thinks it is lore friendly to live in rusted out unpainted patched up homes surrounded by garbage. While they may be a few lazy bastards in a Post-Apocalyptic world. I am sure people would have found old paint factories and metal factories, concrete slab centres, furniture stores, DIY stores etc and actually build or got someone else to build their homes and shops in a neat, painted, nicely decorated and orderly fashion. To me that is lore friendly. The classic one that irritates me is the Abernathy farm. Most farmers and I have lots of farming relatives I know are fairly handy with intermediate carpentry, electrics and mechanics as it is almost an essential requirement on the farm. They would not have built such a crap shanty home and left it cluttered with garbage. Anyone thing that is lore friendly has no understanding of farmers and holds a very low opinion of anyone living in the post-apocalyptic world. In fact, farmers living out in the countryside with all their general handy knowledge would be the most likely survivors of an apocalypse as its city dwellers who are bunched up in the target zone that are most unlikely to survive an apocalypse of this nature. Hopefully any future installations of Fallout 4 will take this into consideration as to what is and isn’t lore friendly. A good example of a Modder that has a good concept of this is Onyx Nightshade who only uses materials from the game however like actual people that would have survived this mess he recreates settlements in a tidy, clean, orderly and creative fashion.