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  1. (Obviously, all of the follow is... IMHO):

     

    I think it depends. CBBE tends to offer curvy women with scaling from butts and breasts from normal to ridiculous (e.g., breasts that would make walking upright difficult let alone combat). UNP tends to be much more of physically defined ranging from in really good shape to hard bodies within what I would regard as much more realistic proportions [Cup A-C] (though variations exist that offered large size or some extreme muscle builds hardbody x10, but UNP is again less curvy). Remember, CBBE and UNP are body structures over which the skin textures are set.

     

    In addition, I have found that head meshes vary with each of the builds and I much prefer the UNP Heads which I find a bit more fair and their fairest are the fairest of them all. If you go to Shiva's Beautiful Presets and open the Images Tab and go to Comparisons you can see what I mean same presets over different meshes... which maybe more related to 'standard head meshes' that come with than options.

     

    CBBE and UNP are for women. So, like Jeir said, you have to choose for your guys, if you are equal opportunity nudist. Men are bare chested, obviously, but they can be covered with underwear, flaccid, or not, etc.,. Shiva's Beautiful Presets comes with side by side comparisons for men, too, and out-of-the-box head meshes differ, too.

     

    Skin Textures - depends on what you are looking for and which of the body structures you chose (CBBE & UNP are not the only ones but tend to be what most people use). In my experience, I have found that CBBE skin textures tend to be a bit more porcelain and anime styled for my tastes. While Jeir is correct (and should be as a very talented mod author - CBBE and Bodyslide) about better more realistic skin textures looking better and more realistic, I believe that applies to both UNP and CBBE. I think that the subtle difference for me is that CBBE is curvy build, UNP is more defined from normal in shape to hardbody, and the textures map on to the bodies as such. So, IMHO, even the highly realistic textures seem to me to map out different on curvy forms - better by far than some of the early CBBE Skins, but for me... UNP is better choice.

     

    Personally, I think skin textures are just about as essential as underlying body structure (CBBE & UNP) and visiting a view of the skin textures that support UNP and CBBE will give you reasonable side-by-side comparisons. Oh, and if non-humans are important, remember that their are fewer skin textures and they do not work with everything... so check them.

     

    Body Physics - from combat to bouncing busts and buns are factors, too. CBBE and UNP have physics as well. Personally, since I play the game to play the game, physics are something I sometimes include but do not miss it much when it's not there... for your purposes gather it's important so consider physics options.

     

    Fashionista - one of the bigger differences between CBBE and UNP though - not really that big a difference as some suggest is - clothing and armor mods. CBBE is probably the better choice for players who want to dress-up a lot and have fashion shows, because it is true that certain clothing and armor mods do not work as well and some of these clothing and armor mods are for sex-oriented fashion or ultra skimpy armor (and UNP has a host of these options as well). However, IMHO... as a player who tends to play the game and not have fashion shows and worry that I cannot dress-up in everything at the store, I have never found myself lacking when it comes to options. So, while this an advantage if you want to have sex parties or play dress-up, I use UNP and have never found myself crying about it and, in truth, a lot of the better ones are modified for UNP.

     

    So.... What Now?

     

    So, CBBE (Curvy) or UNP (Shapely-Hardbody) or something else? What kind of skin do you want - porcelain or a bit over photoshopped/airbrushed or realistic. What do the out-of-the-box head meshes look like... are they attractive to you? Realistic textures look great on both CBBE and UNP, but given the shape of nature of UNP, I personally think the best skin mods look better on UNP - it can be close, but... UNP gets my vote. Skin Textures are probably as important and their are several great ones - my preference is always realism vs porcelain and over airbrushed. In this regard, I recommend you visit Nordic Skyrim (see below) along with SEPTIM & TUCO because they will link out to some great skin textures. And, finally, do you want physics, because both options come with them.

     

    Personally...

     

    I prefer UNP for a lot of reasons (UNP Female Body Renewal & UNP Body Fit Armors and Clothing [shiva182]). I prefer in-shape and define over curvy and do not need butts and breasts of inordinate size. I am not playing to have a fashion show or open a sex dungeon or have a Noble Dance Ball with all the trappings - some people get into it and more power to them - but I have never sat around as a character and thought... damn... I am so sad I cannot fit into that high heel or thong or what have you, lol. I have always found plenty of cool things for UNP. It also helps keep my mod list down because I have too many plugins as it is... so do I want 30+ beautiful armor mods or just the 5 I love. I love the way the skin textures look on UNP. I do use WICO, which truth be told is a UNP Only Mod, and is a real work of art. It is a bit complex, but the Character Options and NPCs (around 800 are covered) are stunning. Frankly, given some of the hassles involved, if it was not a real piece of art, it would have fallen into oblivion. Even Nordic Skyrim List (Creator) notes it as work-of-art kinda mod even though he prefers CBBE.

     

    Unfortunately, WICO requires a little bit of work before you should use it (cf., SEPTIM Mod List). It does require some advanced edits, but you do not need to know anything... just follow directions. I used MO2 and followed the instructions on YouTube (PreCaliber and TUCO has a video that's otherwise outdated that does have accurate WICO fix part)… just remember make a Nude Version (and Non-Nude Version if you want to make Let's Plays to Post on YouTube) then open in explorer and save your modified mods into archive and you will never need to go through the hassle. I have a completely functional versions - nude and non-nude - of WICO that work like a charm, but the authors been absent for 2+ years and I cannot upload for public use.

     

    If I was not using WICO, I would still use UNP because I prefer body types - normal in-shape to hardbody, but I would use one of the following skins - Mature skin texture & body, Fair Complexion, Women of Skyrim female textures, Pride of Vanilla and I would probably use TCM. WICO covers men, too. So, I don't need a male model - WICO is as good to men as women (but it does not have totally nude men and, thereby, anatomical parts that work... so, if you're chasing that stuff, WICO as beautiful as it is... is not what you'd be looking for.... If I was not using WICO, I find there are a lot of good ones but for nudes (a) Tempered Skins for Males or (b) Vitruvia - Skin Textures for Males. 4K maybe SkySight Skins - Ultra HD 4K 2K Male Textures and Real Feet Meshes.

     

    I use Diverse People and Botox to round out my NPCs (WICO covers 800+ but these hit a few not covered), but I still have WICO Immersive People and Dawnguard (2 esps included in WICO) and assign them priority over all other mods for appearance.

     

    As to physics, more often than not, I don't use any physics options though HDT is/would be my choice if I did... again, if I want beautiful nude women with real physics, I go the photo studio and/or the internet provides options for those without a photo-studio - but that's just my thought... everyone has their own thing.

     

    ~Tyger~

     

    PS: Obviously, I favor UNP as do others, but there a lot of fans of CBBE, too. They might say UNP is too blocky (muscular) or to slim (in shape) vs curvy (round) thicker (meaty). It really does come down to taste. CBBE folks have done a lot of hard work on their mods, these are exceptional mods, and they have their folks. UNP the same... I am one of the later.

     

    Some Major Mod Lists To Visit:

    YouTube will provide you with a fair amount of comparisons as well... whichever meshes, textures, and physics you choose good luck. Great thing about mods is... you can do what you want.

    Thanks for the answer. Does either of those mods include body textures for the none human races? If not what should I download for those?

  2. Downloading the game for the first time since I played in on 360 when it released and thought I'd try to mod it out to make it a brand new experience. Couldn't pass up the idea of nude mods so I wanted some suggestions on which may be the highest quality. Also if you have any other suggestions for mods I should download let me know.

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