CiderMuffin

Because they're as dead as the dodo.

There is also the mid-western BoS power armor.

Yes let's ignore the fact that the BoS didn't actually attack any settlement simply because it had advanced technology, like the Shi or Vault City. There is literally no proof the BoS bully people into giving up tech or attack entire settlements. Also Elijah is disgraced by the BoS, did you not pay attention to anything at all in New Vegas, Dead Money and Old World Blues? One of our companions in Dead Money was literally an operative sent out to kill Elijah by the BoS there is also the fact that Elijah abandoned the BoS and it's philosophy after his exile which is, again, shown in New Vegas, Dead Money and Old World Blues. Also using the logic of "Well clearly this insane man shows that an entire group should be destroyed" is incredibly stupid and would mean that so many religions, organizations and countries should be blamed entirely for the acts of one insane man who broke away from them. Christ, it's straw grasping as hell. You might as well say that the Followers of the Apocalypse should be blamed for the actions of Caesar as he was a former member.

You clearly don't know a thing you're talking about lol

I wouldn't mind just having interest designs like towers and buildings that fit in with stuff like the metal and wood pre-fab. Definitely stuff that looks more built from salvage and freshly cut timber then actual pre-war homes.

Well a second referendum makes sense since a lot more people now know that UKIP straight up lied to them about everything.

I haven't seen anyone call it "undemocratic" but I've seen a lot of news stories and articles about how much the UK lost in this, how the british sterling fell and how people are starting to lose their jobs already. UK also lost it's position as the fifth economically strong country to France.

British currency feel an extra 3% leading to a 11.4% decrease in the worth of the british currency. JP Morgan first foreign company to state it's pulling out. "It was bad to let immigrants and refugees in" except those immigrants have done nothing but do the jobs no one else was doing which lead to a better economy. Sure it's not a perfect situation but it's better then pushing them out just so they can be slaughter in constant warfare. Both can be used to rebuild infrastructure and work on farms which was literally the jobs they were given. Edit: Oh this is classic. Boris Johnson the architect of Brexit is now saying "Oh no need to rush leaving" because evidence is everywhere that this idea was a giant train wreck that is destroying Britain's economy. At this point he is just trying to hold on to it saying "No it'll work, trust me!" despite it'll take years and billions to build up all the relationships the UK has made from being a member of the EU. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-brexit-boris-johnson-michael-gove-vote-leave-a7100431.html Second Edit: Leave Campaign lied about how much the UK sends to the EU http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-result-nigel-farage-nhs-pledge-disowns-350-million-pounds-a7099906.html Third Edit: EU tells UK that if they want to leave it has to be swift or else it could prolong uncertainty. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36618317

"Ok so immigrants are ruining our economy (they aren't) so clearly the obvious way to fix it is by destroying our own economy! Britain first even though it's primarily English focused!" So good job England, you really screwed your entire country over. Your currency is still falling and you caused the stock market to crash leading to Japan cancelling all trade with you and your stocks in Asia are plummeting to worthless. It was just people buying lies that NHS will see increase in funding but whoops that's not happening because UKIP is filled with liars. Like I feel most people don't even know what the EU did for the UK, for instance all the trade agreements that the UK had? Null and void, they were all set up through the EU so now UK has zero trading partners. The UK had to follow several civil rights agreements but whoops nope not a thing now that they aren't part of the EU. The whole "you'll get more money in wages from leaving" turns out to be a gigantic lie. Once the economic collapse happens and the UK loses Scotland and northern Ireland only to have England end up being like how Greece is right now they'll be crawling on their feet begging for the EU to take them back. It's less people weren't happy and more of people didn't realize they were being lied to and fed bullcrap propaganda spewed out by liars.

God damn it, I can't believe I ruined gaming.

Do we really need a new thread about this every time the game updates?

Uh, the thing that ruined the PC ports of the Batman games was it being outsourced to a third studio because WB is filled with idiots. The rest of the stuff sounds like conspiracy theories though especially since you failed to actually cite any source. http://kotaku.com/sources-warner-bros-knew-that-arkham-knight-pc-was-a-1714915219 Rocksteady made the Arkham games but Iron Galaxy Studios did the PC port.

I doubt Maxson would cause the collapse. Brotherhood has been around for over 200 years without a succession crisis, they're even surviving the NCR-BoS war. As for a monarchy, no that's not how they are. For instance BoS already has a council of Elders that not even the High Elder can go against. The High Elder also isn't a position that is gained by birth but by rank. BoS succession works by whoever has the highest rank gets the title Elder if the previous one died or was stripped of their rank by going against the codex. That's always how it worked and setting up a nation wouldn't really change that, remember the BoS is fashioned on crusader monastic orders, some of which have actually held countries and large amounts of land like the Knights Hospitaller who controlled Cyprus and Rhodes. All I'd see is another branch of the BoS being created that deals with stuff around settlements, at most just another Scribe order as Scribes are already seen as civilians compared to the armed force. I don't think Maxson will try to establish a kingdom or anything, it wouldn't make any sense. Even still establishing a monarchy wouldn't plunge the BoS back to 'medieval times' which is ignoring that monarchies have been around long before and after the medieval era with several still functioning today. Denmark, England, Japan (who holds the record for longest royal lineage), Sweden, Cambodia and numerous other nations. I can see where you're coming from, the Tuetonic Order did the same thing when it became Prussia but I just don't see it happening and if it did the most likely case is it would be a constitutional monarchy where Maxson doesn't have complete control since the Codex is a very huge part of the Brotherhood of Steel.

I don't know, I'd rather D.C. BoS eventually turn into the good ending of the Mid-Western. Like I agree with Veronica from New Vegas's thinking, the BoS can do a lot of good and Maxson's less-wastelander-xenophobic BoS looks like it could have that potential. I'd actually really like to see the BoS set up a parliament that deals with governing the people with the Elder really only having power over the BoS forces and the scribe division. I know, I know. People are tired of BoS being good guys but honestly I just want to see more of the wasteland slowly becoming civilized and have order return. People need to rebuild after all.

The NCR doesn't even know Archimedes exists is the thing. Even discovering the system doesn't mean they can launch it anywhere but Helios One. They'd need the gun which they don't even know exists as it's not on any of the terminals iirc. It's also worth noting the Minutemen can only defeat the BoS by launching a mortar strike without them knowing, it's also worth noting they aren't defeating the Eastern BoS but a army of them that for all we know could be less then half of their manpower as we don't know what D.C. is like right now. Minutemen also need the help of the Sole Survivor to do it. Like, there is so much about D.C. we don't know about other then the BoS control it and one BoS member calls it a country in a eulogy sent to a dead soldier's mother. For all we know they could be on their way of building industry and an economy in D.C. which would make sense as with the new recruitment system they would need to mass-produce weapons, uniforms and armor as well as replacement parts for power armor.

Good news, it's already fun. Seriously you don't need to defend bethesda every time someone says they're not happy with the game or DLC. Some of us do not find the dlc or lacking parts of the game all that fun and that's okay. You like the game congrats for you, now have a cookie. Lol ok. Not even defending Bethesda so you can go away, there are also numerous times I call Bethesda out on stuff like their atrocious new forum and mod system and some of the decisions for their past games. So kindly take your hostility somewhere else if you're going to rage at everything you don't like. :D

Good news, it's already fun.

Except porting over from PC is a good thing, doing it illegally is bad but doing it if it's your mod? That's good. Separating the two is just silly though.

I'm already planning a box car-warehouse city for Starlight Drive. I'm glad there is a nearby train track so the box cars don't look out of place and I've been struggling to build something for it when like, every other place I own is built up like a fortress xD

It's possible, I recommend getting Settlement Keywords Expanded, finding all the mods that add to settlement building and getting the patches.

Lol ok whatever you say buddy, you stay in that inaccuracy chamber.

So question. How will interactions be with the faction you choose for the civil war. Will I be able to still be friendly with the Empire or Stormcloaks if I try to take control of the Reach? For the Empire I can see them settling but I feel the Stormcloaks, even with you being a decorated war hero, will still object to the Reachmen getting more influence. Which brings me to another question, will we have the choice between independence from the Empire/Stormcloaks or can will be a vassal under them?

Because then you'd be just as bad

Not really, Bethesda will have implemented the whole "you need to link your steam account with a legit copy of the game to upload a mod" before the release of SSE

Most likely case is either the NCR falls or the wars goes nowhere until a ceasefire is called and diplomatic terms are negotiated.