CiderMuffin

1. The food quest is off the books which is literally the first thing Teagan tells us about it and we know that the BoS usually trade for their goods with currency or tech they don't need 2. The BoS isn't authoritarian. 3. The Minutemen aren't para-military they are a volunteer army that works to protect people, not rule. 4. Railroad isn't even about ruling. They only care about taking out the institute and getting synths to a safe place so they can live normal lives.

Or you know, Lyons died because he was an old man and Sarah died in a battle against super mutants. I don't get this obsession with thinking "it's some major conspiracy!" for Maxson to take over. It makes little sense. Christ, No-Bark's conspiracy theories make more sense. I didn't say, and don't believe it's "some major conspiracy" ... However the Outcats proved they were pretty much all complete a$$holes in FO:3 and especially with Operation Anchorage, and Maxson and most of his crew are now also roughly at the same level of "a$$holeness". I dislike what Bugthesda have tuned them into, and it isn't at all far fetched that Casdin and his ilk could very well have orchestrated a "hostile" and 'Covert" takeover of the Eastern BoS and imposed their ideology. Except it is farfetched. How would they get in a position to kill Lyons? They were exiles, they wouldn't be able to get to the citadel and for all purposes they were fine just doing their own thing. Sarah died in combat in D.C. If the Outcasts did do it wouldn't they have launched an all out attack? There is no BoS-outcast war mentioned anywhere, the Outcasts rejoined because Maxson promised a renewal of the BoS's original mission of finding tech which was the reason why they broke off in the first place because to Elder Lyons the idea of finding lost tech and information should be punishment detail. The BoS in Fallout 4 is not like the outcasts, it's a combination of the original BoS ideals and Lyon's idea of helping people, which the ECBoS under Maxson does. It's basically the same as taking chocolate and mixing it with vanilla, you get the best of both. There was no "covert takeover" and there is clearly no implication of there being one. It's just another baseless conspiracy theory with literally no shred of evidence people push because they have to make some bad point. People die, that's what happens. Whether it's old age or in combat in a heavily war-torn area. People will die, it's simple as that.

Or you know, Lyons died because he was an old man and Sarah died in a battle against super mutants. I don't get this obsession with thinking "it's some major conspiracy!" for Maxson to take over. It makes little sense. Christ, No-Bark's conspiracy theories make more sense.

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Well to be fair none of them are trying to really advance humanity as a whole, save maybe the Minutemen. BoS are trying to protect humanity from the mistakes of the past, Institute's idea of humanity is focused around themselves and self-centered, Railroad only really cares about freeing Synths. The only BoS I'd really trust to rule over anything is the Midwestern BoS from tactics in their neutral ending so unless the East Coast BoS end up like that I think it's better they just become a political faction that acts as an advisor on technology, the East Coast is also not looking to rule over humanity nor anything really. Minutemen on the other hand is trying to found settlements and safe havens for innocent people, they're trying to build a new life and create something that lasts. So for humanity in the Commonwealth I'd say a BoS-Minutemen alliance where the BoS just becomes advisors and help deal with hostile forces. Alternatively, raiders with Institute help.

I'm not pushing hate, I'm pointing out your claim of "BETHESDA IS STEALING MODS!" is nothing but false information built on pathetic reactionaries trying their best to attack Bethesda.

Most likely they broke the NDA or pirated. Either way expect it to get shut down very soon.

Nice argument that has been stated to death, pointed out inaccuracies and laughed at. What did Bethesda steal? Settlement building? Surprise! Base building is not a new thing in game development and has been around for decades or what, are we now going to say games like Starbound and Subnautica stole ideas from Fallout 3 mods for having done similar things? This can go with every pathetic claim you can make up about "Oh no Bethesda is stealing mods!" which in itself is laughable without needing to explain why.

Post your load order, that'll help.

Ok, go talk to Zanity, you'll be able to share your bullcrap conspiracy theories based on trivial information.

If you have any evidence whatsoever to support those first claims, please share it. The bottom line is, nobody on our planet other than Google knows to what degree the company is squelching their own competition, along with anyone else's they choose. Who exactly are they accountable to, with a practical market share of over 90% (between their own two-thirds, and most of the other one-third that are simply subsets of Google's results, as explained). To give one example of countless thousands, try a Google search for 'alternate search engines' and see if they provide any clue whatsoever about things like distributed engines and other current technologies that, given fair market exposure, would quickly relegate their fascist business model to its proper place in the dustbin of history, as explained earlier. Imagine finally being able to manipulate your OWN search results, instead of having them obfuscated based on graft, extortion and Google's own self-interest. Obviously a company has the right to operate however it wishes, in accordance with our laws. Google's current abilities to be masters of their own business destiny, competition, market share etc do not qualify as in accordance with our laws, but until recently our feds lacked any legal teeth to do anything about it. Fortunately our FCC provided those teeth with bestowal of Title II common carrier regulations/protections on internet traffic. As explained. Wait and see imo. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=bing https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Yahoo+search https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=alternative+search+engines There ya go. In fact when I was typing 'alternative' into google the second suggested result was 'alternative search engines'

Ok youtube got to be the biggest video site on the internet because it's the most reliable and easiest to use. For instance Dailymotion (which is still around) has an awful search feature last I used it. Of course these services still have a decent amount of people still using them hence why they're still around and being updated. There are also other video streaming services like Netflix, Hulu, HBOGO and the adult oriented sites I won't mention. Youtube isn't a monopoly As for 'manipulating search results' half the time that remove services because of DMCAs, other times it's to divert traffic going to websites for hate groups like Neo-Nazism. As a private owned company they are allowed to do this throughout the world. I know free speech is a hot topic right now by people who don't understand it but free speech in literally every country is just the government can't do anything about it. Private owned companies on the other hand can, that's why the Nexus can ban people for certain comments and censor words they don't like. What google is doing is not because of a 'prostituted and dysfunctional" government, it's because that's how our laws work and have always worked. Google, despite what you so inaccurately claim, does not have a monopoly nor are they creating one. It would be like claiming the Nexus has a monopoly on modding just because it's the most used mod site for Elder Scrolls games.

Yea just clear your F4SE folder or updated your F4SE mods and you'll be fine. That's what I did.

Yea I keep getting CTDs when loading FO4 with F4SE

It's kinda way to shiny

I never fully level a settlement, the already built areas help me when building new areas. I'll scrap a lot of junk but I usually keep vanilla houses that I can build in as I feel that's what people would do in the wasteland. Scrap every useless thing and live in the livable portions. Sanctuary's buildings also help with creating houses and buildings inbetween each other like. I still need to finish my Sanctuary but my plan is to build the street area as a heavily enclosed city with the open area by the river a huge farming area with animal pens and human and robot farmers.

I'll wait for SKSE to get updated and any mod I can't update on my own but yea, I'm totally going to switch. Especially if they made improvements to the engine and stability.

Hey can't rush quality. Take your time!

Yes, it's dead. You can all go home now. No, no it's not dead and Robin just gave proof that this has happened before. A lot of people are already working on large scale projects and others are waiting for the last DLC and patches to be over.

Ok but this still has literally nothing to do with Fallout 4 mods anymore, that's the main point here.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/818/? Use this. It's a bat file so it's always compatible with any mod or DLC-added settlement.

Ok so, Steam doesn't download when you're in a game. That's something they've never done. You would need to exit the game for the download to start or do it yourself by alt+tabbing and manually activating the download.

I can see a lot of problems with that idea, especially with modded content and added dungeons getting empty. Not to mention the coding it would take. Also no, it doesn't take inspiration from The Sims, that's just a stupid and inaccurate comparison people make to talk about "How Bethesda ruined Fallout by adding in something I don't like"

Why don't you make a developer's log in one of the side forums instead of filling the Fallout 4 mod talk area with non-Fallout 4 stuff.

I agree with this. I especially can't stand when people say the vanilla games are "unplayable." it's also incredibly stupid how people hate on bethesda here of all places, which is purposed around a bethesda game and the development tools Bethesda released voluntarily to the public. It's some kind of passive aggressive nonsense. It's like every time I come here I see the same posts. If you people hate this game so much, why are you here,? There's the door... go outside, find something to enjoy, stop being so bitter... :wink: Honestly the only game that's unplayable without mods is Fallout 3 and that's because there are a lot of problems with it on modern systems. Fallout 4 is 100% playable without mods.