dunno where to start, i'm at a loss after sifting thru forums for hours on end Been a few days since i actually played this dang game... I actually did a fresh install of everything today incl. main game, and FWE froze my screen @ the terminal in the shack when i woke up (new game). What prompted that was i was getting <!> across the board and FWE didn't work at all, so i shaved off like 30 mods and then decided to just try to start over with FOIP and everything... This needs a good perusal: Fallout3.esm Anchorage.esm ThePitt.esm BrokenSteel.esm PointLookout.esm CALIBR.esm CRAFT.esm FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm FOOK.esm FEV.esm Mart's Mutant Mod.esm Globaltravelsystem.esm GTSEssentials.esm COMM.esm Ammo Bench.esm FOSE Detect.esm HairPack.esm HouseBot_v9.esm Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esp Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp FWE - FOOK DLC Support.esp DarNifiedUIF3.esp DUIF3Extras.esp FOOK.esp FOOK - Anchorage.esp FOOK - Anchorage hotfix.esp FOOK - Owned!.esp FOOK - Additional Power Armor Training.esp FOOK - Tougher Enemies.esp FOOK - Strength Requirements for Miniguns, Gatlings, 20mm Flak.esp FOOK - Test Container.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - FOOK Support.esp Fellout-Full.esp Fellout-SOTD.esp Fellout-Anchorage.esp Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp Fellout-PointLookout.esp Fellout-pipboylight.esp CALIBRxMerchant.esp WeaponModKits.esp WMKAA12Shotgun.esp CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp Mart's Mutant Mod.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - Broken Steel.esp UPP - Experience Perks.esp UPP - Quest Perks.esp RRRU +4.esp MM_Chef_Extraordinaire_Perk.esp EulogysPadV1.esp Project Beauty.esp Ammo Bench - Toolkit Retex.esp Ammo Bench - Car Mechanic.esp Ammo Bench - Artisan.esp Ammo Bench - Old Ammo-Benches.esp Ammo Bench - CRAFT Plugin.esp hair_add_npc.esp Existence2.0.esp GalaxyNewsRadio100[M].esp We Jazz.esp Stealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.esp MedicStealthArmor.esp BM12PungaGardenFree.esp WMKAA12Shotgun - FOOK.esp WeaponModKits - FOOK + FWE.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - FEV.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK + FWE.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE (Primary Needs).esp FWE Compatibility - FOOK.esp ...and it didnt come out in the same order in fomm after copying to clipboard...ack im tired, just want to kill stuff. [00:12] Background Loader: [WeaponModKits - FOOK + FWE.esp] Adding master "FWE_05_ITEMLOOT_II.esp" [00:12] Background Loader: [FWE_05_ITEMLOOT_II.esp] Loading file [00:12] Background Loader: Fatal: <EOSError: System Error. Code: 2. The system cannot find the file specified> is the newest error, but i thought i had it all... its 4:30 am and im out of beer. anyways, appreciate any help.