Hello, Ive had and been modding and fixing Oblivion since I got it in 2007, and have figured out a way around every single crash, performance issue, and conflict, but this one just stumps me. Whenever Ievel up any character, using either the stock level system, or even Oblivion XP, the game will invariably crash. I have a large number of mods installed, here is an export of my load order: (Note that I am also using OBSE v0.2b5) Oblivion.esm All Natural Base.esm Cobl Main.esm Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm Mart's Monster Mod.esm Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm Better Cities Resources.esm HorseCombatMaster.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Better Cities .esp Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp All Natural.esp All Natural - SI.esp Immersive Interiors.esp Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp All Natural - Real Lights.esp WindowLightingSystem.esp Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp PrivateQuarters.esp Crowded Roads.esp DropLitTorchOBSE.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp ElegantVests.esp mnp Nighteye Goggles.esp tda_ScytheModv1.2.esp Thieves Arsenal.esp AncientTowers.esp DLCThievesDen.esp Cobl Glue.esp Cobl Tweaks.esp Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp OOO-WaterFish.esp MMM-Cobl.esp Castle_Highrock.esp GlenvarCastle.esp MountainShack.esp Ranokoas City Stealth Exits.esp Knights.esp Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp ElsweyrAnequina.esp Castle_Almgard-V2.esp Castle_Seaview.esp Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp P1DkeyChain.esp Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp MidasSpells.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp Cobl Races.esp OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp ShezriesTowns1pt1.esp NR500.esp Altair_Race.esp MountainTower.esp BravilSeaDomes.esp Assassins Creed - Altair's Gear - Heavy Armor.esp Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp Better Imperial City.esp Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp Better Cities Full.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp adTreeHome.esp My system specs are as follows: Windows 7 64 bit 8GB RAM ATI Radeon HD 5870 (Eyefinity 6 Edition, 2GB of graphics RAM), latest drivers AMD Phenom II 945 3.0Ghz Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H Integrated Sound Device DVD-ROM Drive (Duh) Obviously, this is not a hardware problem. I can not seem to track it down to a particular mod, it seems to occur no matter what mods I turn off. I am also using weOCPS to stop some crashes. Also, Shivering Isles refuses to load at all, even though i can see the Shivering Isles bounty show up in game, that gate is nowhere to be found, I have even checked it with the Construction Set and it is not there. That may indicate something, but I am unsure. FInally, with DR6, i removed the terrible 1st person animations manually since I wanted all of the other benefits of the mod without having to deal with those. Again, beside the point, but could still be a factor. I know, this is a long post, but any help is greatly appreciated! Also, any way around leveling up by sleeping is acceptable, since I want my new character to join the dark brotherhood and mage's guild( I hit the level up point before I could do them).