Hi, pretty new to Oblivion modding (much more experience with F3 FNV Skyrim and F4) and it seems to be a much more complex kettle of fish. I only recently downloaded the game and wanted to play it as untampered with as possible, only really bumping up the graphics and downloading a a balancing mod for the magic. At first it ran perfectly then I got a few crashes while I was in Chorrol. Now the same thing is happening in Skingrad but much worse, can barely go half a minute without a CTD. I thought it might be a compatibility issue between mods (specifically Unique Landscapes and Better cities) but when I tried to fix that with patches everyone lost their eyes. Load order: oblivion.esmAll Natural Base.esmbookplacing.esmBetter Cities Resources.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espOblivion Citadel Door Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espDLCBattlehornCastle.espDLCThievesDen.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCVileLair.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCOrrery.espDLCSpellTomes.espDLCFrostcrag.espKnights.espAll Natural - SI.espAll Natural - Real Lights.espxulRiverEthe.espxulTheEasternPeaks.espxulAncientYews.espBook Jackets Oblivion - BP.espBook Jackets Oblivion.espxulCloudtopMountains.espxulBravilBarrowfields.espxulLushWoodlands.espxulCheydinhalFalls.espxulSilverfishRiverValley.espxulBlackwoodForest.espxulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.espxulColovianHighlands_EV.espxulArriusCreek.espxulSnowdale.espxulAncientRedwoods.espxulJerallGlacier.espSounds of Cyrodiil.espAll Natural.espOblivion_Character_Overhaul.espUnique Landscapes.espULM Lindum-BloodRaven-UniqueLandscapes patch.espULM Hoarfrost-GreatForestGorge-LushWoodland patch.espxulEntiusGorge.espULM DibellaTempleWillowLakeVillage-UniqueLandscapes patch.espxulCliffsOfAnvil.espULM GreatForestGorge-LushWoodlands patch.espULM Quelldorf-BravilBarrowfields patch.espULM QuelldorfWithoutShip-BravilBarrowfields patch.espxulBrenaRiverRavine.espULM BetterCities-UniqueLandscapes merged patch.espULM CastleSeaview-SutchReborn-LostCoast patch.espxulTheHeath.espULM GnollMountain-Snowdale patch.espxuldarkforest.espxulAspenWood.espULM MinotaurEncampments-UniqueLandscapes patch.espULM Cardac-ShezriesTowns-AspenWood patch.espULM Clearwater-KoyoTown-LushWoodlands patch.espxulRollingHills_EV.espxulFallenleafEverglade.espxulSkingradOutskirts.espULM KoyoTown-LushWoodlands patch.espULM GriffonFortress-EasternPeaks patch.espULM Hammerfell-SutchVillage-LostCoast patch.espxulStendarrValley.espxulPantherRiver.espSupremeMagicka.espULM IntegrationTheStrandedLight-EasternPeaks patch.espULM Mimics-ShezriesTowns-CloudtopMountains patch.espULM MTCExpandedVillages-Oranstad-AncientRedwoods patch.espULM ShezriesTowns-CloudtopMountains patch.espULM BetterCitiesSkingrad-SkingradOutskirts patch.espULM Oranstad-AncientRedwoods patch.espULM Gaelendryll-BrenaRiverRavine patch.espULM SkyrimTemple-SmokeTown-JerallGlacier patch.espxulImperialIsle.espULM EtInArkay-UniqueLandscapes patch.espULM BetterCitiesBravil-BravilBarrowfields patch.espULM Cardac-AspenWood patch.espULM HelmsDeep-ArriusCreek patch.espULM Lindum-UniqueLandscapes patch.espULM Millstone-AncientYews patch.espULM BlackCatJewelry-SkingradOutskirts Patch.espULM BetterCitiesCheydinhal-CheydinhalFalls patch.espULM TWMPSkyrimImproved-JerallGlacier patch.espULM Hammerfell-ColovianHighlands patch.espULM HoarfrostCastle-LushWoodlands patch.espBeautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.espAll Natural Real Lights - Better Cities IC Patch.espHarvest [Flora].espHarvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.espHarvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.espImmersive Interiors.espULM BetterCitiesBruma-Snowdale patch.espxulPatch_AY_AC.espULM CountySutchOwlsCove-LostCoast patch.espULM GoblinwatchKeep-UniqueLandscapes patch.espNatural_Weather_HDR_2.1.3_coloroverride.esp.espULM Atahnoral-EasternPeaks patch.espULM PlayerHomeNaheema-ImperialIsle patch.espULM WeynonRetreat-ChorrolHinterland patch.espULM Amen'thalasWellHouse-UniqueLandscapes patch.espULM LegionOutposts-BlackwoodForest patch.espULM NicVBetterBeggars-BravilBarrowfields patch.espULM SilverfishFalls-SilverfishRiverValley patch.espULM EaglesRest-LostCoast patch.espULM WindspearTower-StendarrValley patch.espULM Villages-CheydinhalFalls patch.espULM FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.espULM ShiveringStore-BravilBarrowfields patch.espULM Eastbrink-SilverfishRiverValley patch.espNatural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tae_CO_RD.espULM Cybiades-LostCoast patch.espULM CastleDracula-Snowdale patch.espULM ReapersTheDarkTower-BravilBarrowfields patch.espNatural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.espULM BergDesKrieger-CloudtopMountains patch.espNatural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.espP1DkeyChain.espULM HentaiLovelyHouse2-AncientYews patch.espULM SnowLineLodge-Snowdale patch.espULM CastleEltz-EasternPeaks patch.espULM PineLodge-AncientRedwoods patch.espULM PineLodge2-AncientRedwoods patch.espULM ImpeREALForts-SilverfishRiverValley patch.espULM DukePatricksFortressOfFear-Snowdale patch.espULM FuseSnailRacing-ImperialIsle patch.espULM GatesToAesgaardEp1-JerallGlacier patch.espULM GatesToAesgaardEp2-Snowdale patch.espHarvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.espEnhanced Water v2.0 HD.espSM_MMM.espEnhanced Water v2.0 ND.espSM_VanillaSpells.espSM_DeadlyReflex.espSM_SigilStone.espNatural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.espSM_OOO.espNatural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.espSM_COBL.espNatural_Water_by_Max_Tael.espSM_EnchantStaff.espOblivionReloaded.espSM_DLCSpellTome.espSM_NoSpellLights.espBook Placement v2.espSM_Scrolls.espbgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.espSM_ShiveringIsles.espMaleBodyReplacerV4.espULM DukePatricksSCACombatArchery-LostCoast patch.espAll Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.espBashed Patch, 0.espBetter Cities .espBetter Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.espBetter Cities - IC Imperial Isle.espBetter Cities Full.espULM LegionOutposts-BetterCitiesFull-BlackwoodForest patch.espBetter Imperial City.esp I have Wrye Bash (took a bit to get to grips with) but I use NMM for the mods that support it. Any help identifying and fixing the problem would be appreciated. ~~~~