Exactly. IMO The melee combat in skyrim is terrible. With rumors of new consoles coming up next year or something, I would've like to see Bethesda delay the game a year just to incorporate better fighting mechanics into the game. But that's something for a different thread... Anyway, The ideas for h2h are great, but i wanna add a few more ideas to 2 handed fighting. Staggering Jab into: Intestinal Hold: Face to face hold that slowly kills an enemy by grabbing the abdomen while the enemy is staggered and right before inhaling. Only for 1v1. Coding wise, it would be easy to write a loop of loud heavy breathing and have a timer start with each loop. If the player activates the appropriate attack during the appropriate time during the loop the "hold effect" will activate. The main problem is the animation and will be the main problem for any type of h2h overhaul mod. I just write code. So if anyone is willing to do the animation, let me know and we'll start getting ready for the Skyrim Construction Set..