SnobbyCoder60

Hello, I apologize again for taking time to answer; reguarding your question, trying "sqv mg01" right after Toldfir's speech gives me the output i'm posting in the attachments. To try again everything starting "from the scratch", I created a pristine new PG and ran right directly to the college of Winterhold; here I did the quest "First Lessons" and, I really can't get why, the quest "Under Saarthal" started with NO iussue. Getting back to my previous PG where the quest did not trigger, STILL present the iussue (mg02 not starting), but ANY new PG created will make the quest trigger no problems! I really don't understand what is causing this; to me, it seems more something related to things done in the game rather than the modlist, or maybe there was a mod that i removed from my modlist that has already overwritten my older savefiles so that in those the quest is bugged. For me it is enough, because my idea was to start a new charachter and play as a mage, starting from the college, and I really THANK YOU for your help, that somehow solved the problem. Still, the quest remains bugged in older charachters, even if trying to get back to the very start in the Mara's room, and as I mentioned i know like 5-6 people that had the very same iussue, which i'm in contact with, and some of them have the problem even starting a new save. I don't know if you are in to waste time trying to completely solve this, but in that case you can count on me to test. But for now i just THANK YOU for the help provided and I'm going (FINALLY!) to start my new characher as a Mage. Wish you the best things!

I proceded by entering in qasmoke and trying "startquest mg02": the quest starts fine. Then, i went through my PC's savefiles to a very early one and ran again "startquest mg02"; again, it starts fine. Once i go to the college of Winterhold DIRECTLY FROM THIS SAVEFILE and complete the "First Lessons" quest, after Toldfir finishes his speech, the quest again DO NOT trigger, and checking with sqv show the results i'm posting as attachment. So it looks like before approaching the college the command "startquest mg02" triggers quest activation, but if attempting to complete the first Winterhold quest by normal means, it gets bugged. Could it be caused by an error in the main game file? Shall I check Skyrim file integrity? I guess this problem does not have a simple solution though..

I'm sorry i still have not updated you but i'm working hard these days, i will check again all the aliases id with pris ASAP, as well as trying a pristine new world with "coc quasmoke" in the main menu. Later, if I find one that is flagged as "Enabled: No" (apart from Nerien) how would I proceed then? Last time i checked all the voices provided through More Informative Console to look for any mod rewriting each alias, finding only one file different from "Skyrim.esl" which was "Oblivion Artifact" mod, but disabling it does not solve the iussue. Thank you for your help, I will update you as soon as i did, hoping to solve this..

hello, i think your problem was different: the quest "Under Saarthal" here DOES NOT START AT ALL, while in your case it seems that it starts but yet does not work. but if i am wrong and you solved the problem, can you please be more specific? thank you. I am gonna try with coc qasmoke and see what is changing, but what should i am expecting from sqv? There must be a reason for this quest to not start after completing "Fist Lessons", and some kind of mod should be the cause... could it be the USSEP? Again thank you for your help, apreciate.

I tested with "startquest MG02" and the quest DOES NOT START AT ALL (I remembered differently but i confirm that the quest DOES NOT START). Trying with "sqv mg02" report ALL the related aliases (29x total) tagged with "NONE" and the following results: (*see attachment*) Of course trying "startquest" on further related quest works fine, but using "startquest mg02" does NOT start the quest, even if the console compiles it (as it does not return any error..)

Hello, do you have any clues about posssible causes of Nerien being "Enabled: No" typing prid into the console? Is it this alias the cause of the quest not starting? Thank you.

can you please be "less" specific? You should provide more information about when/how you crashed, if it occurred after installing some plugin, etc..

Thank you again. I can confirm that each of the voices tried with "prid" show the tag "Enabled: Yes" EXCEPT NERIEN (233d3) which is tagged as: "Enabled: No". Moreover i proceeded with SSSEdit as of your guidelines, and similarly to you, my only mod that overwrites the quest "Under Saarthal" in Skyrim.esm is the USSEP (which makes no sense). As I told you, this is not a new Bug neither a previously solved one; I met many people with the same bug on reddit and steam, even tried to share modlist one another to see if there was a common buggy mod, but hell, nothing ever solved this since years. Talking about console commands, of course setqueststage and similar work to start the quest "on paper", but this is useless, as even if the quest is displayed in the menu the NPCs (Toldfir etc) do not do the scripted actions they were suppoosed to do, making the quest IMPOSSIBLE to progress at all. I hope to not bother you too much, but really this is a bug that no one seem to ever have solved neither cared to solve.. Any ideas on how to proceed? Appreciate your help.

Thank you. I tried the command prid on every voice you mentioned, but no one is "Last Changed" except for some that are updated by the USSEP (which it should not be the problem i gues..). TBH i did not get the point when you suggested to run SSEdit to see what mod does conflict with Under Saarthal (MG02) quest... how can i do so? I REALLY apreciate your help.

Here you have my modlist and order: PLEASE, i'm really asking for some help since it's years i's like to play a mage build PG but i never did cause this quest is never starting. Consider that: - NO console command seems to work to properly solve this (even if the quest starts with "setstage" the NPCs does not do what they are supposed to do..) - It looks like is NOT related to a directly-editing Winterhold mod (ex: Immersive College of Winterhold/Magical College of Winterhold) - it is NOT solved by mod like "At your own pace" or others that can edit the College's questlines I really hope in some help to fix this, apreciate and thank you. plugins.txt modlist.txt loadorder.txt LazyListExporter (1).csv

Hello, is it really possible that SO MANY PEOPLE IN SO MANY YEARS experienced this F*ckin bug and NO ONE EVER solved it?!? Seriously?? QUEST UNDER SAARTHAL NEVER STARTS AFTER COMPLETING FIRST LESSONS. NO CONSOLE COMMAND CAN SOLVE THIS OR MAKE YOU START THE QUEST PROPERLY. THERE MUST BE SOME MOD RELATED TO THIS BUG AS IN VANILLA IT DOES NOT OCCUR. IS IT REALLY POSSIBLE THAT NO ONE SHARED EVER THE SOLUTION? COME ON....!

Hello everyone! I have to report a very common bug that occurs right after finishing the initial quest of the College of Winterhold ("First Lessons"): as soon as the quest is completed (after the lesson of Toldfir) there should be triggered the quest "Under Saarthal", but it doesn't. Attempting to use console commands to start the quest does not solve the problem in any way, but starting a Vanilla game triggers the quest normally. Has anyone of you solved this problem? I will share with you my modlist so that maybe you can try to figure out which mod is causing this iussue. Thank you for your help, really apreciate!!! LazyListExporter.csv loadorder.txt modlist.txt plugins.txt