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This is assuming you already unchecked automatc variants in your plug-ins, repatched the Automatic Variant Java file in your Skyproc patcher, rechecked Automatic Variants in your plug-ins list and played?

Thanks, I've figured out the problem ! Turns out need to do some CK work on it a bit. /thread

How could i possibly know how to fix your problem if i don't even know the mods you're using? Post your modlist and loadorder because, i tried just vanilla + DLC's + that single mod. The problem persisted. There is no load order or mod list if I only run this mod by itself and same problem occurs. I could post my full 240's mod list which I had no problem besides this visual imperfection, I just don't see how it would help even If i isolated the problem and was hoping to not delve into that can of worms that I have meticulously put together. I'll post it when I'm able to. That is why I rather try to find the rational concept to solve this by a series of troubleshooting through isolation. Which I was hoping people with indepth knowledge of such particular problems or have experienced these issue more than me to reply. As to "how" sometimes I can help others just from their description of the problem, such as weird exclamation mark showing up, or bright saturated objects showing up all happen for a reason. or when a particular CTD happen, during menu screens, or game, or location, when it occurs tells you what part of the game was reading before it crashes. How it crashes can tell you if its really a load order problem, or just the game engine having insufficient amounts of memory. My frustration is when I don't understand the concept of why my issue could occur this way so i can apply it to other things besides just getting mods to work. Which is my reason for asking the cause to get the concept in the answer over a simple problem fix. thanks,

How so? won't the wrong load order change a more obvious pattern or related objects to change in conflict with a different mod? In this case it is so specific of a problem, single armor piece working half way within a whole armor set that worked perfectly? What are your percieved indicators that suggest wrong load order? Just trying to break down a problem so I can fix it more indepth.

Hi, I am wondering what is it that can cause certain armors to vanish when you put them on your own character. The stats are there and changed, however when I am wearing it I only see my lioncloth.. as if I'm not wearing anything. Weird part is, its not consistent and it only (so far) happend to me once with a specific armor. I am using Immersive Armor mod, and the armor that doesn't work on me is the centurion armor. even more strange it works perfectly fine on other npc's and followers. I can see it on them just fine, but once I wear them it vanishes.... ( when i mean vanish, I mean the armor is gone not my characters body. Just the armor, so visually I'm naked ) Even more strange, the arms, legs, and helmet armor works perfectly fine as well. Just the chest piece.. Could anyone please help trouble shoot? ( before jumping into load orders, dirty plug-ins cleaning, batching files and creation kit tweaking to solve ) Thanks,

Hmm. Try sleeping instead of waiting. I can;t seem to NOT get the disease everyday... In fact I get it everyday during sleeping ... When you wake up it should say something about a dream you had etce tc etc.. like vampirism

Alright I'll see if I can find it again. Thanks

Ok, what happend was the update of the mods and the site you provided has helped, it just decrease the chance of of ctd from %99 to %50. I have been getting lucky, it's got nothing to do with loading more.... does this frequent random crashes have anything to do with having 13 hash collisions and selecting virtually everything except leveled list in the bash patch rebuild?

actually I have been working on this for the past 2 months have been very patient with it. reinstalled again 3 days ago with Fcom with my old Mod list before I delete my old install of Oblivion. Strangely the Old install had the same problem just not as severe. I also noticed that loading around..... 4, 5 or more times so the computer gets used to the game and its location really helps. Example.. Fast travelling from leyawin to Bravil docks and upon entering bravil it crashes... However if I fast travel from leyawin to Bravil docks and save.. load again .. and again for about 4 times until I see people moving instead of standing still staring. I could enter Bravil, perhaps its not the mods but the Ram?? This isn;t a full test though I am goign to try this out to other cities. If they all work out i'll report back. Thanks for all your help agian. I took out Natural Weather and have ONLY Enhanced weather. added enhanced vegetation over natural weather's vegetation. disabled bedrolls, added updated harvest flora. read the rest of tonlongs page. That's it all the updates there is nothing more I can update. not even the ctd prevention" http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22282 "works..

I strongly suggest you use Enhanced Weather over Natural Weather. Yes there is a potential fix for some of the bugs with the mod but it's hit or miss. Works for some, others still have buggy weather. It's best to just avoid outdated and buggy mods. refer to Tomlong's Site for more popular outdated mods. Also that site is a great overall wealth of information. Start there and report back. Until you fix this obvious conflict we cannot move forward. Good luck. Ok, I am finally updated all my mods, refreshed, Boss em, rebuilt Batch Patch tried oblivion out. It crashed going into a city again. Just to be sure I tried more than 1 city and it crashed. instead of the "oblivion has stopped working" it is a straight up CTD.it turns out its not the weather mod, or bedroll.

Hi, I have an issue on oblivion crashing saying that "OBLIVION HAS STOPPED WORKING" when entering towns, or getting out of houses to town. On my OBMM it said that I have a hash collision 13; perhaps it has something to do with this? or is it my computer? I run a windows 7 64bit. ( not in programs file since I understand that it causes more problems if any games run in that folder. ) I also run everything as administrator. Thanks in advance I already Ran BOSS and these are the results excluding better cities imperials, deadly reflexes , and the Bashed patch

Did you rebuild your bashed patch? here's teh FCOm readme http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/convergence.html Here's the FCOm installer guide http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/fcominstall.html here's how your load order should roughly look like http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/fcomloadorderexpanded.html Sorry but this is all the help I can provide from your limited information. I prefer using Omods than manual, manual sometimes doesn;t work so well, and then use BOSS to sort and make a bashed patch. If the difference your looking for is with the texture/graphic department try to update your archive invalidation in OBMM with the Specs shown from mods. I think it was ( BSA alterations / Texture / Ignore normal maps / generate archive invalidation on hash collision. On another note make sure you are using the most updated mods and updates.

Bump, thanks in advance. I would also like to mention that I have 13 Hash Collisions. Not sure if that has anything to do with it it just seemed unusual.

Ok I installed OBSE 19FINAL, Reworked my merging and BOSS. I read somewhere that Deadly Reflex should be loaded after Batch, and that Better Cities Imperial should be lower on the list, those are my only manual changes after BOSS rearranging. My lock time was off ever since I installed wyre bash, the BOSS I have is whacked... Thanks for the unofficial oblivion mod tip .. I thought If I had the SI unofficial version I wouldn;t need the oblivion unofficial version, which I was wrong. Unfortunately Oblivion still crashes, and I don't mean the leisure every 10min crash I heard about in the forums. I mean every 2min crashes give or take, I have to admit that It does RUN a lot smoother now. Instead of a lag before crashing, its swift and frustrating more and more like a slap in the face. Thanks for your help Smooth613 but is there nothing else I can do to prevent all these ctds? You also need to upgrade to OBSE 19 Final, the current stable version.

Thanks your right about the Border Regions it works fine now. However I did use BOSS, and I used it again before posting the list, I am also using the latest BOSS, OBSE0019beta, TESTIVEDIT, Wyre Bash 290, OBMM .. I'm sure I am using them correctly BOSS just puts my Batch there is that incorrect placement? I understand that it should be right at the bottom. But i thought if boss put it there its gotta be right .

Hey I have a problem with my mods involving FCOM. I actually got FCOM to work perfectly however when I start adding different mods it did something very strange. Any Characters I have outside of any cities are teleported to the imperial cities Tiber Septim Hotel and Everytime I tried to get out of town it said "I cannot go here i should go back". Or even if I make a new character and got out of the sewers the first time it said the same thing. Can someone help me please? Installing Fcom the first time did this to me so i did a clean install and it happend again. I'm sure I installed Fcom correctly.

I have downloaded a couple of mods that makes changes to the wilderness and creatures of oblivion. MMM, Francesco's, WCGL, and NPCwithJobs creatutres (not sure what that is ) , etc.. Hoping to get a great number and variety of enemies, however from what I've seen they only try to attack each other and sometimes they can't even attack. They only continuously running against me or the enemy they wish to attack. I want things to attack me more than each other and actually attacking instead of running into one another or just standing there. This all fixes if I talk to them or attack them. Sometimes bandits and outlaws are friendly to me even, what is going on? please can anyone make sense of this? Or help me fix it?

thanks I'll work on that

Hi I have finished with modding and got most, if not all the mods working. However there are random crashes especially when I go outside roaming. I checked using OBMM conflict detector and wyre bash it doesn't say that it has any major or noteworthy conflicts. So could someone help me with the random crashes? * Sometimes repeated crashes in an area, for awhile before continuing the game. here's my load order

I finally got it to work, however not fully. The crosshair is not center is there a way to fix this?

Thanks to all who would reply, I have downloaded the Ultimate 3rd Person Camera ModV151 *first time* and it doesn't appear to work. I have used the OMOD151DEFAULT and Activiated it using the OBMM, doubled checked using Wyre Bash even though I have limited knowledge of using it. I have read all the README's and posted on several topics regarding this topic with no responses. During ingame it appears the game acknowledges the U3P's Fix button saying it is fixing 3rd person camera, however it has no effect. My character is still in the middle but on the contrary the custom crosshair is working for 1st person only. I can also toggle 1st and 3rd person view even though the comments on the mod reveals that, when done properly you will no longer have 1st person view. Here is my Load order list encase the problem is due to my load order or mod conflicts. Oh, I OBSE0018 and tried 0019 Beta 4 *nothing changed* . Thanks,

start a new game?. I don;t have a game.. I deleted all my saves.. besides It crashed before the title can;t make a new game..

I would really like HeartofDead mod to work however it is Crashing upon startup. In the readme it said that the unofficial DLC of Battlehorn would crash HeartOfDead. I deleted BattleHorn Esp and it still crashes. Is there a way around this problem? I Ran HOD by itself and it crashed.

Ok I did what everyone advised... however I'm still not sure which crowded roads has most npcs in it. It still doesn;t work.. Wyre Bash has no red squares, the ones with them are unchecked already. everything is a green box, some mods are green highlighted others are blue. The game still crashes, is there nothing else I can do? My Current List. I actually took out the Natural mod and decreased All Natural esps Also. having trying that it didn;t work So i put them back on.

I have took you advice and made things a lot better. I downloaded BOSS rearranged some stuff, and did what it suggests. However the problem still persists, instead of crashing upon startup it crashes after the Bethesda. Here is what I have so far, please help thank you.