DethChikkin

i was looking at upload dates not date stamps on the mods themselves, but thats good to know. even looking for a better date relies on trust that the modder knows whats up and knows what he's doing... god i cant wait till this game is as old as oblivion is now, then ill mod the hell out of it. really my problems started when WiS was discontinued. it wasnt really the monsters or warzones, but the gameplay tweaks that hit it for me. i use the uncapper and its PERFECT. not to mention darkages makes OP weapons not so OP (depending on what it is). so here i am, trying to piece together what little of that experience i can with bit and scraps from random modders that seem to have disappeared in bleakfalls barrow somewhere back around march or February .... and now my video card is heating up way too much and im passing my ghz and virtual mem with enb XD. think ill focus on my heating issue for now and do some research on my preferred mod list and re-download CK in steam, thx for the imput. btw, is there a thread for swaping mod lists? id love to see what some other users have, it might fit my taste

well poo, so theres not really an easy way to tell without thorough testing? with the creators of PerkUP and Better Sorting..... would you say im safe sticking with those?

see, i thats what i thought but from what ive read it sounds unsafe to use AT ALL. am i wrong?

So, pretty much im sick of encountering missing meshes in dungeons relating to specifically to this issue: http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1378149-forms-unsafe-to-touch-with-tesvsnip/ and on here: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/9557 i saw this post: "@DarkGenius: The kind of thing you're describing is caused by mods that have been edited with TESVSnip. You need to check your load order and remove anything that's been around since before February, and anything else that's been edited with TESVSnip before or since then. Those other mods are corrupt and the missing pieces are the result of that corruption." - Arthmoor did that, and still came up with bugs. currently i heard the safest way is to search for mod dates and nix everything older then april 30th, but i realized there might be some people that still use TESVSnip. is there a better way to make sure i dont have any mods edited with TESVSnip? am i right in my method? are people still using tesvsnip? what are the specific areas that this effect and what does it not effect? ill post mod lists once im done sorting through it using this method, doing a complete reinstall. ill put both mods that pass and the ones that dont (theres a few im a little steamed didnt pass :/ ) EDIT: Here's the load order (forgive me if this is the wrong thread, this didnt really feel like im asking for help more so wanting to hear some shared thoughts on the subject. 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 03 Immersive Patrols x2.esm 04 Populated Cities NPCListMaster.esm 05 SkyMoMod.esm 06 WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm 07 BlackTowerArmory.esm 08 JSwords.esm 09 CMNewCompanions.esm 0A hideout.esm <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 0B SoS - The Dungeons.esp [Version 1.2] 0C SoS - The Wilds.esp [Version 1.1] 0D Realistic Lighting.esp 0E Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp 0F Weapons and Armor fixes.esp 10 Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp 11 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 12 Convenient Horses.esp 13 Craftable Torches.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 14 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 15 Dr_Bandolier.esp 16 EveryoneGetInside.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 17 More Craftables.esp 18 MoreRainWindy33percentLessView.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 19 MoreSnowWindyand75percentLessView.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 1A People Have Torches.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 1B PerkPointPotion.esp 1C SkyMoMod_lists.esp 1D SkyMoMod Extras Collectables.esp 1E xgfPferdeKarren-en.esp [Version 1.5] 1F BlackSacramentArmor.esp 20 BlackSacramentDBreplacer.esp 21 Bucklers-Complete.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 22 Cloaks - Player Only.esp 23 1nivWICCloaks.esp [Version 2.0] 24 dragonboneweaponscomplete.esp 25 dragonpriestmasks.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! (use new version) 26 LFArmors.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! (use Immersive Armor instead) 27 3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 28 Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! (have to wait for update 29 Complete Crafting Overhaul - BS version.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! (have to wait for update) 2A DeadlyDragons.esp 2B DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp 2C Monster Wars.esp 2D BlackTowerUpdate.esp 2E hobbithouse.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 2F RiverWood Redux.esp 30 Riverwood Redux Expanded Basement.esp 31 Whiterun Ferns.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 32 whiterunMarket.esp 33 AT - Loot Arrows +75%.esp 34 AT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp 35 AT - Merchants Arrows +75%.esp 36 AT - Recover +50% Arrows.esp 37 AT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp 38 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp -| 39 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (PseudoVanilla).esp | 3A Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Normal Weight).esp | 3B Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Weightless).esp | 3C Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp | 3D Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Light Weight).esp | 3E Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Weightless).esp | 3F Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Reduced Weight).esp | <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 40 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Half Weight).esp | 41 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp | 42 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Normal Weight).esp | 43 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Light Weight).esp | 44 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp | 45 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp | 46 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp _| 47 Fast Respawns And Rich Merchants.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 48 Increased Merchant Stock x5.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 49 Killable Children.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! (using Killable and Lootable Children instead) 4A Killable Children - Quest Important Protected.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 4B VariedGuards.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 4C Better Villages.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 4D Populated Cities.esp 4E 1portalgun.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 4F MasterTheTimeAndSpaceTOGGLE.esp 50 MidasSkyrim.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 51 Phenderix's Magic Evolved.esp 52 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp 53 DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp 54 The Dance of Death.esp 55 PerkUP-TwoHanded.esp -| 56 PerkUP-Speech.esp | 57 PerkUP-Smithing.esp | 58 PerkUP-Restoration.esp | 59 PerkUP-Pickpocket.esp | 5A PerkUP-OneHanded.esp | 5B PerkUP-Lockpicking.esp | 5C PerkUP-LightArmor.esp | <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! (testing out Syynxs Perky - The Major Perk Overhaul as a replacement) 5D PerkUP-Illusion.esp | 5E PerkUP-Destruction.esp | 5F PerkUP-Block.esp | 60 PerkUP-Alchemy.esp | 61 PerkUP-Alteration.esp | 62 PerkUP-Conjuration.esp | 63 PerkUP-Enchanting.esp | 64 PerkUP-Archery.esp | 65 PerkUP-HeavyArmor.esp | 66 PerkUP-Sneak.esp _| 67 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 68 CMNewCompanions.esp 69 moveitLWT.esp 6A Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.0] 6B WATER.esp 6C WATER - Get Wet.esp 6D GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp 6E cartographers map markers.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 6F Bashed Patch, 0.esp 70 ImprovedScImpUniforms - WARZONES only.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 71 NPCEssential - Carriage Drivers.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 72 NPCEssential - Stable Masters.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! 73 NPCEssential - Trainers.esp <----- TESSnip Bugged!!! again, this is only going off of dates, no way to know for certain if im truly safe. which is why i posted here for your thoughts and your methods as well.

so id dont know whats wrong but i think i might play a warrior now so i can avoid crouching XD. what the hell is with this patch.... anyways i need some sleep, but before i pass out ill put my specs up: win7 64 bit os 6gb ram i7 920 2.67 ghz nvidia geforce gtx 560 ti

yeah i got this too, so glad its not just me XD first thought in my head was "oh great, which mod f****ed up this time.....". EDIT: noooo this only made it worse, gonna try tweaking my vid card settings

sent in the lines but yeah, i definitely need to get my hands on a better mic. thankfully i know people in the line of professional recording, mostly songs but as long as they have a decent mic it doesnt really matter XD

ill help in testing as ive just made a clean skyrim folder :P also, id help voice acting if youd have me

so..... what was the latest build and does anyone have it and is willing to share it?

so for the files: NecroTapestySkinned01.nif CoffinOpen02.nif .... i get a yellow exclamation point ingame, yet in the tes4edit i see them fine. my active mods and load order: http://pastebin.com/p2rEYYFc does anybody know a way to fix this?

no.... it doesnt work. i know its loaded, i got all the broken steel perks available and im level 30. id take off mods to see which one, but i dont know if it matter what save to use. ive been using a save INSIDE the routanda , right before i have to choose how to turn the purifier on and ive made this topic discriptive as possible without any PLEES HELP blah blah noob nonsense... *sigh* im getting the feeling im not gonna get any help and i should just play something else...

212... isnt it 216? and yes ive done that... it wouldnt let me otherwise. although i had to be a dick to sentinal lions to get the code from her (if it was mentioned earlier in the game i forgot or didnt find it. ill try 212 to see if it works, maybe...

i just save, exit, then open it up again. alt tabbing just doesnt work in this game :/ nor in oblivion

nobody? really? not one helpful comment?

EDIT EDIT: didnt know there was a copy to clipboard function in fomm lol. revised first post to be easier on the eyes :P