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I used to just take the horn from Delphine and leave. Then I created my own personal mod that change the story so that she never even steals the horn. (Instead she sends a note through the courier system a few days after I've retrieved the horn.) That change is part of my "Do Not Rush Me" project to slow down the pace of various quests in the game and remove idiotic and arbitrary leaps of logic.
Yeah, then if that works maybe I'm overthinking this. Probobly you could tab out of the conversation and she would still be standing there waiting the following year when I come back, and whatever you tell her means nothing because the game wont let this quest fail under any cercomstances because its absolutly required. I was not sure of this but I had hoped. I mean maybe you cant really fail skyrim unless you stop playing. Maybe there is always a way to do it. Its possible the quests you can fail or close off, are only the ones that are optional. It would be nice to think so.
As for dragons I meant more dragons because of Audre and the barial mounds. Not just the ocsasional weak dragon but many powerful ones once you turn in the horn and do the innkeepers quest.
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Here's what I do for storytelling and immersion purposes: I meet Delphine to get the horn. Then, I let her talk until she gets to the point in the conversation where she says "I need to make sure I can trust you." To which I choose the response, "How do I know I can trust you?" She answers, "If you don't trust me, you were a fool to walk in here in the first place." It's there that I terminate the conversation and leave. After all, she's the one interfering with my Dragonborn training with her cloak and dagger act and she's calling MY trustworthiness into question? I chalk it up to arrogance on her part and leave so I can return the horn and get around to the Main Quest whenever I feel like it.
That would be nice but that might tick her off, skyrim is pretty realistc. You know how a dude with a stolen object runs up with you while your out hunting as a werewolf? Then a hunter comes up and ask if you have seen the theif? If you misclick and lie to him you have no opertunity to then tell the truth or say anything diffrent even if you click him again to finish this odd little quest.
One time I was doing the totem quest with the huntress, and we arived at the site and there were these hunters hunting a stag, I did not not know what to do about them they would not hold still so I could talk to them.
The walkthrough said kill enemies around the site, so I assumed I was just supossed to kill and eat them which I did. When I returned to whiterun it was under attack by vigilants even though I had hostilty turned off. I astill completed the quest with extream diffucuty, but now that I think on it, that was probobly a mistake if not coenedence. I assumed the hunters only did not attack because of mod.
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SOMEHOW the Werewolf Mastery mod has an effect that removes hostility from ALL NPCs including the members of the Circle. I have no idea how the mod author did it or how to isolate the effect to only work for them. But at least the potential is there...
You said it guy, use Werewolf Mastery, craft the customzation ring at the forge, activate it like a power, use the menue to cut off all hostilty. People will just comment on you running around naked and not being a werewolf, no hostilty whatsoever...from anyone. I'm happy to awnser this because I had a simaler problem with my vampire and I know how it is when you need help and no one replies.
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You know what? This is great. I have been looking for such a thing. Truly romantic animations. Going to follow this thread. Please update if you get it done. AP lacks this, and if I had to choose I would choose a thing like your mod.
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skyquest, I know for Vilja in Skyrim, romance and marriage for her seems to be a much more involved affair where you go meet her family and have a wedding feast. You can tell her you love her and hug her. You might want to check her out. She's actually a very endearing character.
I thought the established custom mod followers had moral issues, like things a werewolf vampire or DB member dose would cause them to basically run off. I was told that if one of them sees cannibalism such as a werewolf or vampire feeding to earn perks they would never speak to you again. I think that was Vija? Cerwin was supossed to be good but all she ever did was assure me I had better things to do than ask about her. She was rude.
I was waiting for the Sofia creator to release the marriage update, because these things are a non issue for her and she is feisty and funny as advertised. However I am getting skeptical about the update release being anytime in the near future but like many I check often.
I would have to create another character for Vija that did not wish to do the companions or dawnguard DLC and that seems like going overboard with it. I could download her to see if shes less rude than cerwin and try to tamper with her morality I suppose. My werewolf is in fact looking.
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Problem I have on my vampire though not an issue on my wolf is want to use my castle to adopt the two children a mod put in there for me to adopt but the game is just referencing the fact that my whiterun house dose not have a child's bedroom.
As in, I have no room for you. Serana is my vampires modded wife, he has 2 modded children in his castle, but cant adopt them to there. I decorated my whiterun house but just keep extra followers there mostly that are managed from Amazing follower tweaks and my home is your home.
Think its a bug with conflicting mods or something or the home mod dose not do that, or isn't doing it because of a conflict it cant help with anyone of a 100 mods...or maybe that's just the way it is. Ie you cant use the castle, its not right for kids to be there.
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Edit: Question: wolf from them or a mod? Don't know if matters but something to think about. If already a wolf from moonlight mod, maybe your not recognized as a proper one, like a vanilla vampire? I think being companion is the only way your technically supposed to be able to be a wolf. Maybe in a earlier version of some mod its not working right or something? I know in moonlight you will prob get attacked by a npc event wolf or if you drank looted blood from such a one long before you finish quest for companions.
Looks a bit like a healing potion.
The only time time a companion freaked on me was when I mauled him repeatedly because he kind of, sort of, looked like a bandit and thought he was npc enemy in a mess of them.
I think how my werewolf mod works to allow me to remove hostility from npcs with customization ring, is it makes so they don't know I'm a werewolf...like followers that are not programed to know.
Why? Because they tell me I'm naked. They are being tricked into just seeing a buck nude nord guy streaking around skyrim slapping people to death like a lunatic (pun intended).
I don't know if I like this, I don't want them to freak because I guess my other mod moonlight causes me to get a brief warning and turn into a wolf before I can get in my house or out of town. Forcing me to kill the guards and restore a save, between 2 characters already have over 200 saves as its numbered. If I remembered or auto saved fine though.
Anyway would be nice if they could see it as it is and not freak with a mod. Less embarrassing (pun intended)...yet it works so I'm not really complaining, just something I notice.
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The guards will never shut up. That's just how they are. I remember I just left getting the horn from Delphine for like 30 levels before I bothered. The quest won't get stuck. I don't know where you get that idea. But that's just how Elder Scrolls games work. You can drop quests and the middle and nothing bad will happen. There's no time limit to finishing quests.
Thank you, and thereby no issues with rampaging dragons.
I have esstienal npcs protected via popular mod but I really dont want the rest of them to die. I guess guards respawn, and you can console res people I hear but why go around doing this? RP wise your character really might ought not to do that anyway. Unless you treat it like a mmo paliidan rez and no one really dies for the sake of gameplay not involving lore .
Since you yourself did this and it is all I have to go on ,I will leave it at that and just do the same. Google has been unhelpful here.
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Yeah, TES is a little more literal with the whole God-thing. Whats more, literally everything is descended from some primordial spirit/god, including men and mer. In fact, they both descend from two factions of the sake group of spirits...
As for the Daredra... They manifest in physical forms for the sake of finate mortals. They're really nebulous concepts of immense power that have no actual shape. When you're in their realm, you're probably somewhere inside THEM...
Why are they then interested in women and girls like Serena was? The whole daughter of coldharber thing? They would have got passed such things one would think. Unless they screctly hate them and enjoy degrading them, and going aginst the flesh...like biblical demons that posses people and cause such actions, and for the sake of the story reguardless of real life belifes, I alway thought it was out of contempt for humanity as well as the image of...as in its originator.
Cannot Deadra as beings that transended flesh with no need of an anchor not find better things to do, Would it not seem childish to be so bored as to spend ones time playing with the emotional responses of humans sadisticly? Would they even register? unless there truly is nothing else for them and they are forced to turn there attition back on the human world or perhaps it sustains them in which case...well you see the implications of that.
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Well, I see. I guess I just exspected Deadric princes to be more along the lines of star gate sg1 guolds or however you spell that. Sort of advanced in being with cults and good technolgy. The devines like azguard. The standing stones, to be technolgy. People forgot they were once an advanced race blah, blah, blah...subjegated,..blah..blah.Go Breaveheart on them kill false gods unrealisticly. I thought the elves to be desendants of another world and another god.
I basicly started skyrim without reading anything except a walkthrough from where I prefer to get them, same as gamefaqs kingquest walkthroughs. At first I intentaly did not read to far ahead or pay attention to info, but I know now you kind of have to as your actions sometimes have ramafactions.
I cant approch skyrim like another adventure game exsplore and figer it out for myself. Things wait but there are certain triggers for events.
Not time based ones, but you can close off quests that depend on npcs if you kill them. you can cause enemies to attack holds by your actions, or inactions such as not doing dawnguard or progessing the main quests casuing dragons to hurt people.
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I'm not critisizing the art or anything uniqe, no not at all. They are not unplesant even unmodded,
no offesnse please.
I just know little of skyrim lore, and know that a popular trend among modern fantasy writers is that the gods are really aliens, and this or that race really came from space and that god and such.
To be honest I exspected that to later be reavealed to be the case though admitidly it would be refreshing if this were not so. I think this has something to do with the way people are these days. They can for the most part accept such a thing more easily.
Though even lovecraft long ago...you know but then more people share that viewpoint. I love his stuff but ancint technolgy discovered and alien races is pretty much exspected. Lovercrafts Aliens were a bit diffrent.
What would suprise me would be if such turned out to be the real deal instead as far as fantasy which is after all not reality. Ether way I love skyrim.
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All of recorded history is the Elves getting smacked around. Lorkhan cheated them, the Divines abandoned them, the humans committed genocide against them on at least 3 seperate occasions. All the Thalmor want is to go back to how it was before the God of Man ruined everything.
Lorkhan and his human pets are the real villains here.
On the other hand, the Thalmor would be better off following the teachings of Veloth. He found an escape, and through his teachings Vivec and to a lesser extent Hjalti found an escape that doesn't kill everyone.
I have always loved elves Playing one and also elven women, there are handsome men and pretty elegant magical women. They are better than human characters mostly in fantasy.Besides fantasy is fantasy. I mostly play a Nord guy because of the way skyrim is set up.
You are not really allowed to join the elves anymore than you are allowed to join deadra, or be one, (exspt modded race and game dose not reciqnize it, no npc will know or commint, its just your fancy and not worth doing, as thats no fun).
The elves are considered vilains in this game. Besides I like Vrykul and nordic stuff a bit too as well as slightly amazonian yet pretty women like the vrykul in another game I wont name.
Though I dislike ulfric with great intinsity as daffy duck would say...and I do sympathize with the elves, look at the history.
However, Original skyrim elves resemble aliens for some reason, without a mod. I think maybe elves in skyrim is a blanket term and these dudes somehow got mixed up with ETs, thats maybe why everyones so hostle.
In some respects these are not your conventional fantasy elves. I dont think the look was a accedent on the designers part.
Maybe it was to make you sypathize with the nords, and see them as outsiders or maybe it was hinting at something.
I know very little about skyrim lore realtivly speaking besides what the loading screen and npcs tell me despite hours upon hours of play. I have much to do in game.
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There are already female companions (that are their own mod and not grouped in with other stuff, there is one mod out there but it combines a large amount of followers together so if you dont want the female followers its to bad) out that allow you to romance them and not just hand over amulet, there are literally none for straight women to romance. Even less so for gay males, there is pretty much nothing with a lot of content.
Now those females may not be to your taste but that does not mean they are not out there for guys.
I Guess you have a point there. Wont work with vanila NPC however we do have downloadble followers at least, and if the the female target audience dose not even have that, it would take priority for modders. I see what you mean.
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Just don't meet Delphine if you don't want to do the main quest. They won't get mad even if you don't show up for a year.
If I dont meet her I wont get the horn and quest might get stuck. Also not recignized by greybreads and the guards will keep saying the dragonborn summoned and stuff that happened ages ago. This will finaly shut them up about the greybeards and wondering if such a thing could really be, who amongst us and so on. They will know its me..
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I have got to run around on my wolf and do the quests of all the people the dark brotherhood will tell me to kill before I do so, or otherwise the consequinces mayprove dire, like not becoming thane of riften. Also got to balence Doing the Imperal civil war quests with killing the emperor,
I will do that I supose after DB, though why I would do such a thing I dont know. I really dont want to harm the emperor and destablise skyrim, why not ulfrec? He killed the king for crying out loud... But need to to do DB.
Personaly though that seems wrong like harming nestine on the first real quest DB gives. It is however optional and I dont think I will, the begger dont mind so much though, and the dude that abadoned that woman and carelessly messed her life up deserves what he gets.
However the woman tries to go too far with that poor shatersheild woman... though knowing skyrim shes probobly also up to something nasty. I would not have picked most of these people for DB targets...and dont like to harm women, children or passive animals.
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I'm on the Horn quest for grey beards which I put off for a very long time...stuck at those ridiculious closing gates tring to shout sprint past them, (gave up for a stress break and saved there) read walkthrough and it seems the main quest is non stop after you go back to riverwood.
I dont want to finish the main quest in one day. Would rather return the horn, learn final word in force shout be reciqnized as a dragon and go about my busness for a while.
However delphine wants you to follow her I read, and if you do that, the stupid dragon will start ressurecting dead dragons everywhere and force the game to end if you dont continue from what they say. They also say it stops dragons from spawning except for some, on uspn or whatever that skyrim help site is, Confused on that a bit.
How do I return the horn and postpone messing with the audre dragon in blade quest? Wheres a good stopping point so I can finish later?
will the innkeeper wait for me or be upset if I tell, her not now lady I'm busy or something?
Also is there a cheat mod to get past the gates like there was one on nexus to add a Blood extraction room full of bodies to septim outpost for vampire quests in dawnguard?
Edit: Nvm about mod part found:Ustengrav gate removal on Nexus mods! Two versions! If this works going to reccomend it to help people. Games should be fun, not frustrating btw, with keyboard controls and needing to equip spells and select powers, this should not be a agility game rather Adventurer/RP.
I had the same problem on rift mmo getting to a npc in quest where you enter peoples minds, and need to somehow jump up to the npc took 4 hours. However I could play Mask of eternity and black flip jump platforms over lava no prob. Odd huh?
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I hope its not just for women modding men, that would be a big let down. I hope it effects heterosexual male characters getting spouses and courting too. Also how soon we talking, a week soon, or six months soon? I still cant even see that talented modder that made Sofia releasing the Sofia marriage system and its been almost done for a while now.
They will add lines for gays later. It seems the females are the more demanding part of the skyrim players.
I was not talking about that, lol, I meant straight guys.
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I hope its not just for women modding men, that would be a big let down. I hope it effects heterosexual male characters getting spouses and courting too. Also how soon we talking, a week soon, or six months soon? I still cant even see that talented modder that made Sofia releasing the Sofia marriage system and its been almost done for a while now.
As it shows on the site, currently it's just for female characters who have a preference for male characters, because there is absolutely nothing for straight females/ladies who like gents (and gay guys/gents who like gents...but this mod is aimed at females rather than males, so they miss out again) in the modding scene, whereas people who are attracted to females have a number of female followers they can romance if they choose.
Apparently a similar mod for straight guys may be worked on in the future, according to their blog. Not sure about ones for same sex romances.
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Thought so, all guys have is adult mods, no kings quest Alexzander/Cassima fantasy type romance...you cant even tell the women you love them, all the mods we have are basically just make your own adult move, and that implies causal sleeping with someone and not marriage,
its unrealistic. Guys have no real romance ether, and even some passionate men, if they are truly lovers of women, have at least a little good taste. They are probably going to make a alternative life style one before they make decent ones for heterosexual males.
Basically the vanilla npcs lose all personality once there quest is done and you marry them, they are all Stepford wives with the same voice and no personalty. Add a adult mod and that just reinforces that. Meaningless adult content that gets boring and repetitive after a while,
You want story, and introduction. Its a fantasy game not a adult film...More so when you realize its a trick and forced animation with very little back up and the npcs really don't even acknowledge it happened. Not enough files changed. Its like why you cant adopt or chose to marry move spouse to a total mod added home, as for as the game is concerned it dose not exist. It would prob be a simple thing to get it added to homes owned in stats and make it register. Just needs to be properly integrated and backed up not just cosmetic illusion. Same sort of thing really.
Here is what we got. Wife to man: you got a amulet? Fine, you did retrieve some miscellaneous object for me for a few gold, of course I want to marry you and take care of your adopted children that really are not even mine.
Don't really know you, I mean you just walked in off the street yesterday but life's so tough in skyrim we apparently have the lifespan of fruit flies so his is as good as it gets.
Also, feel free to take my money on a daily basis, and sleep with me once each night for a buff or just come take my gold and ignore me.
Wow, that's super romantic, right?
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Fast forwarding to the children suddenly being "normal" age would miss a major point in this mod we are trying to make.
I think some fans were complaining about that on Sims 4 initially.
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I can do Dark brotherhood and recommend it to vampires and werewolf after being vampire clan leader if vampire.
Though if when I play a paladin type guy I would not, it would be OOC. My vampire is kind of like a Anne rice vampire, less of an initially self hating buffy/Angel type...with those morals or a mix of the different ones. To be good at rp and debate you need to be able to see from different perspectives.
The targets could also be feeding victims, rp wise, even if gameplay wise there cant be shown to be effectively. Ironically DB members also need some skills of a thief to avoid bounty in some case though its put to different use.
Thieves Guild, well...its distasteful to me from the get go, being a thief or needing to be,...besides he already takes what he needs when he loots. I also don't want to deal with bounty issues or hostile guards and such...even my vampire gives gold to beggar children and such, why not?
Maybe little Lucy or whatever her name is can get herself some hot chocolate for now and eventually a weapon or magic book, to survive and learn to be an adventurer if un adopted.
My vampire would never be mean to small children or hurt passive animals, respecting both. With a good character, he or she is complex and its never just black and white.
He sees himself as a hero in the way Lestat de lioncort might (from first few books), though not exactly like him. He has a bit of Armand too, and even a touch of akasha, even seemingly conflicting traits, well, until you look deeper.
He also wants to be thane of theses holds and save skyrim...and to be honest the TG starter dude creeps me out much more than Astrid for some reason.
My regret with DB is that they don't hold to the 5 tenants or that stuff anymore so there is little romance,..too mercenary, There should be more off a hidden reason ultimately behind there actions...maybe something to do with the god the night mother was associated with....and potential conflicts as in if you get rid of a npc you cant do there quests, or trigger blood on the ice if you optionally kill nestine or whatever her name is.
I recommend reading about the chain before you start no one would know all these conflicts, like the straw that broke, say if you want to be thane of riften too.I was by the by happy to get rid of the low life skrooma dealer and help lizard lady.
Also you only kind of lead it/highly regarded, when there is almost nothing left to lead. That seems to be a trend in skyrim factions, a little joke on the player. A real vampire is going to kill people anyway.
A regular Dragonborn player is going to do a dungeon and kill 100's of bandits, and other people. Do you really think all those bandits and assorted people are 100% evil?
You think they don't have lives or mothers who love them? What about the women there? You break into there place with weapons and followers of course there are going to attack you, you take there stuff. You disturb the dead and loot corpses in crypts.
What about civil war? Skyrim is a tough world, its not modern or politically correct in ever aspects, also its a fantasy story with werewolves, movie style vampires that shape shift into demonic creatures.
Racist viking types on one side, imperial dude at start of the game asking the torture master to hurry along and come with them to keep them safe. Serana basically participated in a Black mass willingly to become a vampire, with all her family members going at it at once with a evil god S and M style for power, even though she felt it was degrading and knew her father also had to sacrifice 1000 inocent people. No telling what else she got up to. A little late for regrets now sweetie. Yet shes not really entirely evil herself, Serana, shes actually rather nice in many respects.
After harkon tells you some of this, what dose your character do? Asks about his vampire powers and starts quests for the dude. Stopping to indulge in the human cattle down the hall of course. Then later: Your an insult to are kind, with Serana his daughter in tow. Harkon is of course the pure villain for wanting to blot out the sun?
Harkon was just foolish and self centered, possibly the type that lacks the ability to feel for others at all, possibly suffering from the same mental illness as Angelina jolies character on the movie, girl interrupted.
Think about it.
As for the dark brotherhood its just the next convenient quest chain for your vampire character.
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My thoughts on children ties into my thoughts on family, they allow the player character no option to have blood relations not even his own children. Yes there should be child birth that dose not require LL as its hard to get and instal there stuff.
Besides my mods are complicatedly balanced to even work. As for being adult or not I don't really care, if josh made a version of AP where you could get your wife to conceive that's fine with me,
I mean I'm going to be intimate with my wife anyway. AP dose not pull or conflict much, its a simple mod, good for people with a lot of mods that are not really obsessed with that aspect of things.
However it would be better to be standalone, where you and your wife cut to getting in bed fade to Black and shes with child. That way everyone could use the mod, maybe like sims, try for baby also.
Probably should also just have a black screen that's says x amount of time later and the children are the size and age of normal Hearthfire skyrim children.
That way they will work with overhauls be less complicated and potentially buggy and be a non evasive mod everyone can easily use and not have to disable anything else for.
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I cant imagine that no wolf or vampire has tried to turn Sofia, into a pack member or clan member.
She has near or at 20,000, endorsements, and no one with dawnguard has tried?
You don't even need to be using one of the popular vampire/wolf mods to have this ability, I think even AFT offers it. So most if not all vamp or wolfs that use this site should have it.
If it glitched her would it affect her main file or just a save? Would it work?
If just a save I could tell everyone 15 min from now, as I have one wolf and one vampire character (my two characters) not just one,...because my hybrid experiment with mod failed badly, and as a result of having 2 characters I have 300 saves :sad: .
If you tried, did you maul her with moonlight tales? give her a potion, ask her to drink your blood, use better vampires ability?
Did it mess her up or glitch her? If so, her main file or just a save? dose she work with npcs allowed to feed too?
Any info is useful and better than none and I thank you.
Sofia being the best follower that exists, streamlined, customizable ultra compatible, lovely, funny, and regularly updated... I'm sure many would like to know.
Btw Sofia wont give give you any bull about not talking to you when you first meet her,...her content is not gated.
She is understanding and supportive of the player, and any play style, Dark brotherhood is OK by her,..shes persistent and mostly knows what your doing at the time, quests or if you get Lydia...she even remarks that shes better than Lydia.
Shes loyal but not evil, though feisty. She will even take up for you to a couple of the people in white run that mouth off. She drinks if you give her ale or such.
Warning: She will be drunk if you give her booze, its not just a rp thing shes a true Nord....though more ridiculously good looking, as she herself will attest.
Sofia has her on textures and looks like a real woman, Its shocking...and makes you notice the difference between her and even modded texture/skin npcs.
She is confident in personality and would make a strong Vampire and or werewolf.
She will happily sing for you and is voiced by a very talented VA with a marriage updated coming soon...her songs reflect her story ie a cave was her home, you the hero, Dragonborn comes, you and her together, the legendary duo, or the threat about dragons, Age of the dragons I think.
Point is a lot of people might care if you could turn her to vampire/werewolf and being careful is a testament to the fact that shes not just another mod.
Shes very possibly unique and I don't want to screw up her programing or offset her relationship level by re installing her or using console on her.
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I hope its not just for women modding men, that would be a big let down. I hope it effects heterosexual male characters getting spouses and courting too. Also how soon we talking, a week soon, or six months soon? I still cant even see that talented modder that made Sofia releasing the Sofia marriage system and its been almost done for a while now.
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Takes place after the main storyline in skyrim and other DLC's complete, A otherworldly terror changes the land,
The fact that if you have played enough, your character is probably strong enough to wipe out multiple holds solo is acknowledged by the people of skyrim, and you go on a quest to become king and by doing so rid Skyrim of a threat from outside which has taken it over almost completely with a terrible new lord that has contaminated and twisted the world (non humanoid).
Kind of like a lovecraft entity that needs to be sent back through the gate before its completely out, and its influence seeping out and corrupting and twisting the world Harvester, mouth of madness style,which needs to be undone.
Represented by its aviator a traitor whose power hungry and deluded stereotypical, High priest so and so, with attributes of it.
Even the Daedric princes help you as its beyond them and there fathoming (even a devil to such as they) and try make you as them (anti-hero opt power up 1) or a divine force (non dark path opt power up 2). 4 possible endings.
1. Hero wins brings light.
2. Hero wins brigs a lesser evil.
3. Hero Sacrifice self Paladin style restore to normal, but fails to be king.
4. Darkness takes all, hero fails, Ph'nglui Mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn....Game Over....please restore to previous save after cut scene.
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They are real enough to make your thrall-moth priest go blind, in any case. Functionally they seem real, though admittedly I'm a bit of a newb or was not paying attention when they were revealed to be forgeries. The thrall priest said nothing to that effect...nor Harkon before he died.
Maybe, prophesy created based on knowledge of elder scrolls? I don't know exactly lore wise but prophesy historically can be based on knowledge observation and logic, and tends to be self fulfilling in whole or in part given world enough and time.
What confuses me about dawnguard is if a player made the decision to become a werewolf and companions and yet did not want to harm Serana and the vampires, there is really no point in them even playing dawnguard, you ether become a vampire or a vampire hunter.
Also if one did not wish to be a wolf, vampire or hunter and just a normal imperial or nord there would be nothing for them to do whatsoever in dawnguard.
So really for best gameplay be a Nord warrior vampire and or wolf with at least some magic...at least you have companion in place of vampire line if Wolf. Ether way after that you can then join the dark brotherhood. I suppose if you want to get beast blood and not be a modded vampire hybrid or switch back and forth, better just not bother going to fort dawnguard at all.
Doubt the vampire hunters would want a werewolf anyway, same sort of thing in a way. Theologically a demon...or tainted with unholy influence, demonic blood, or possessed of something. Still feed on people. Earth bound upon death. Dark forces, eat people and so on.
So alas My wolf character Baron von Glower aka the Black wolf, would prob be unwelcome at fort dawnguard. unless the dudes are self serving hypocrites or for game play reasons allowed.

Circle members attack while transforming as a Werewolf unless following.
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You would have to contact the werewolf mastery mod authour somehow, or if unreachable, an author of another mod that made a compatibilty version like the tales by moonlight people or another mod author and ask. From responses my quess is it works by tricking the npcs into not knowing your a wearwolf somehow...that or adds them or you to some faction you would need to isolate.