I for one would like just like to mention that i think steam being required to play any game is a very unwanted feature . I am one of the minority that doesn't have internet at their house ( i live in a pretty inaccessible location) so the only time i get to play really and get updates is when I'm at my friends house ( i wish there was a way to get update offline so i could download them and take them home to apply them) now don't get me wrong I'm not condoning piracy in any form , i would even approve of some form of rigorous DVD check or something . Just throwing my 2c worth out there (that's about all its worth LOL) Thanks for listening Grindle