Thoreai

I dont own a console, but uhh..i cant immagine to play that on one...my last try at a friends place was a total disaster as the ps3's gamepad felt like an alien to me...im just too used to mouse and keyboard :P I've often said that TES VII will have photorealistic graphics for terrain etc, the character models will look slightly more realistic, it will take place in a one acre radius, have exactly three quests, and have three skills (stab, zap, and sneak). Either that, or ship with just the Construction Set and the words "We give up, do it yourselves" :P Lol you know...i wouldnt be surprised at all, although the second option sounds really good, since modders done so many times a better job then beth :D

Lol stop copying me!..no really i did pretty much the same as you, the perk mod was really essential and i remember also using some canibal mod, or something like that, lol. I havent played FO3 like a year or so, but i played it so much i couldnt go on anymore, but i might reinstall it one day with all these fond memories coming back :P

True that. I cant say im not interested in FO4, but honestly, if CdProjectRED delivers with their games, wich i think they have all the talent and passion to do so, ill happyly leave all beth games without looking back.

Dragon Age is Bioware, not Bethesda Erm i am aware of that, thats why i said that it would be nice if DA3 succeeded as in, delivering a good open world rpg and take the lead away from bethesda, so they really try harder on their next game...well not that i believe it would really happen, just a thought. yea, i misunderstood "take the lead away from Bethesda" i get what you are saying now. my opinions on Bethesda only come from FO3 and FONV. havent played the earlier ones, and havent ever played an Elder Scrolls game. i liked FO3 more then NV. i liked the landscape more. in NV it was a nuked desert. woop de doo. i liked seeing the destroyed buildings and cities in FO3. the underground subway system. New Vegas was soo boring and i had no desire to explore it. and when i got to New Vegas, i just wanted to get out. it wasnt as exciting as DC. i laso really liked how you had those few weapons you could create in FO3. not only were they usually fun, but it kind of added to the apocalypse feel. having to create weapons out of whatever you can find. i also dont like how they went to Perking every 3 levels in NV. i modded that the first chance i got to Perking every level. i want to look forward to every single level. not every 3 levels. and putting points into a stat every level doesnt cut it. NV also didnt have interesting little settlements. FO3 had Tenpenny and Megaton, the Republic of Dave, the Vampires, the Police station up there, the Little kids Camp, etc, underground Army Bunkers, you could go to different parts of the Wasteland and see how different people were surviving (or had attempted to survive) one of my favorite things was going into a place and seeing dead bodies, maybe with guns next to them, maybe with some Dead Ants in front of them. you got to see how a group tried to survive (and fail). or in other cases you go into a building and read on a Computer as someone types that something is happening (sometimes an event before the bombs, sometimes the event of the bombs) and they say something like, im going to go hide in the closet now. and you go into the closet and you find a dead body and a bottle of Whiskey. its things like that that made me really Love FO3. i just didnt get that same stuff with FONV. and if it was there, well as i said before, i just didnt have the desire to explore a place that looked the same before the Nukes as it did after. its a desert. i also didnt like how i could side with the Brotherhood. i know its because NV was more of a throwback to the earlier FO games, but coming from FO3, and having those little side missions with the Brotherhood in NV, i kinda wanted to say, Screw the Rangers, Screw Caesar, im (still) with the Brotherhood! eat Giant Robot. but i couldnt...and also how some people mentioned, the NPCs in NV didnt interest me. i only managed to get a couple (again, didnt wanna explore) but none were as cool as Mr Gusty or Fawkes. I feel exactly the same way. FO3 was really awesome, despite its awfull animations and other shortcomings i probably played it a lot more then TES games. I agree that it had a lot more apocalyptic feeling then NV, all the misery death and dayly fight for survival...i never got that feeling from NV, though i played it a lot and modded it to death, but despite that i never finished it...i couldnt get myself interested like with FO3. I finished FO3 arround 5-6 times and always had a blast and while i like fantasy, the post-apocalyptic setting really got me. I dont really believe beth can do that again with FO4 though, or more likely they wont care to add the depth and go with mediocrity, just like with skyrim...ill be happy to be proven wrong though. Dragon Age is Bioware, not Bethesda Erm i am aware of that, thats why i said that it would be nice if DA3 succeeded as in, delivering a good open world rpg and take the lead away from bethesda, so they really try harder on their next game...well not that i believe it would really happen, just a thought. Maybe they will get that competition. http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/news/982/ Omg thanks jim for that info! This looks very promising!

The closest that BioWare has ever got to open world was BG and they aren't going to go that far. Yeah probably, it just would be nice for beth to have a serious competitor that would deliver in everything that skyrim is lacking, it would be a win/win scenario for us as in, they would compete to deliver better...but yeah thats not gonna happen.

Dragon Age is Bioware, not Bethesda Erm i am aware of that, thats why i said that it would be nice if DA3 succeeded as in, delivering a good open world rpg and take the lead away from bethesda, so they really try harder on their next game...well not that i believe it would really happen, just a thought.

Personally I didn't like Drakensang at all, there may be a good game in there but the balancing was awful. I don't mind hard games but I do mind unfair ones, locking my weak mage into a small room with a bunch of speedy rouges and then a boss was only one example of how ill thought out the game was. If you've got the patience of a saint it might be worth a look. Thanks jim! I been really looking for something challenging and came across this game, read a few reviews that also mentioned the combat being pretty hard, there seems to be also a lot of skill managment from what i saw wich i really like to loose myself in, i guess i give it a shot.

Wasnt somewhere announced that in DA3 will be an open world?...correct me if im wrong. Well my expectations are pretty low, but i really want DA3 to succeed if they plan it as an open world game and take beths lead away, so these guys actually try harder on their next TES game. Got hyped for skyrim and meh...never going to do that again. offtopic: Anyone played/has Drakensang, after watching a few vids im considering getting it, is it good ?

Yes it was on gamasutra. Although i havent played the game myself, i been following it for almost a year...troll posts...critique posts....positive posts...i read it all. I was interested, but the biggest thing that put me off was non-open world...i mean its star wars....i love to explore stuff, but after seeing the vids about the exhaustion zones....no matter how much people hate wow, the feeling of exploring is epic in that game and i was immagining something like that. In my opinion the biggest mistake they did was to let bioware make an mmo, i mean these guys were good at doing signle player story-driven games not mmos and while the story must certainly be epic, it does shows that they kinda werent really planning in the long-term and the stories became a double-edged sword. While they were epic, they sucked all of their resources and little was left for the game itself, wich for an mmo is kinda a killer i say. They should have gone for balance, leave the stories voiced and everything else text....i just cant immagine how insane that must have been to voice everything. After the last Aion update where they totaly killed rifting, i wanted to give it a try, but after seeing what they did with f2p, ill pass.

There was some article about the f2p in swtor, where it was written that to enjoy the f2p you would have to spent 56 dollars every month..ofcourse you dont have to spent on anything but the restrictions are sewere. Basicaly its just extended trial to make you subscribe, but the author of the article said, how do they want to make people subscribe when they didnt wanted to be subs when swtor was still p2p. Although the article seemed to be a bit harsh, i think it was spot on.

Well its normal, i mean you gotta understand that even though these people make games its still just another business...ofc those people who have worked on the game might feel there is more to it then that, but otherwise its just that. There are always money hungry people grabing any chance at making a buck, but i have yet to see someone who wouldnt...if anyone is to blame, its the people who jump at anything thats being thrown at them. Although i wasnt looking more deeper into the dlcs, they do not make the impression on me they were created after beth saw what people want, but more like those were already in vanila created long time ago and just taken away to be used for another money grab as dlcs...do i blame them for that...nope not at all...its their living...and someone has to buy a new ferrari each year ..right? :tongue:

Pretty much what i been thinking, although i dont have anything against it, im wondering how much money they got from it on xbox since they brought it to pc....i remember somewhere reading it was only for xbox and suddenly its coming to pc. I dont think that many people asked for it, since as you said we have already such mods. @Tarm If im not mistaken you already have mods where you can build a whole fortress...although i never tried it out myself. Yeah. It's called Build Your Own House or something. I think there's a mod where you build a settlement, a fortress as you say too. Wasn't it on the front page for a while? Anyway I've heard that those mods aren't perfect and I'm hoping Hearthfire will help much in solving those problems. Edit: Microsoft had exclusive rights of one release month to the first two Skyrim expansions. That's why Dawnguard and now Hearthfire wasn't released at the same time for xbox and PC. Ah i see, i knew about Dawnguard being released first on xbox, but i thought Hearthfire was only for xbox....oh well now i know, thanks.

Pretty much what i been thinking, although i dont have anything against it, im wondering how much money they got from it on xbox since they brought it to pc....i remember somewhere reading it was only for xbox and suddenly its coming to pc. I dont think that many people asked for it, since as you said we have already such mods. @Tarm If im not mistaken you already have mods where you can build a whole fortress...although i never tried it out myself.

I dont see the problem having a sims-like addon, the problem like with many things in tes games is the shallowness and lack of depth. All if the ideas sound good on paper but once you see them in game, you quickly realize they just scratch the surface of something that could be far greater and much more fun...all they do is just reusing the already existing models/items from vanilla skyrim and put in some scripts and thats it. It just doesnt feels exciting.

Atleast the xbox-ers will be busy to keep the rats out of their basement for a while :whistling: