Greetings, I discovered that if I install Better Cities, Realistic Leveling and/or CM Partners along with the Unofficial Oblivion patch or Unofficial DLC patches, my game freezes after I see the Bethesda logos. The game works only if the esm mods are installed or the unofficial patches are installed. I cannot run both because Oblivion freezes at start-up. I’d love to try Better Cities, but not using the unofficial patches is not wise. I need help! :pinch: I have the Steam version of Oblivion (GOTY) and OBSE is working. I use OBBM for most mods and NMM for Kvatch Rebuilt, Oblivion Character Overhaul and Better Cities. I also use LOOT to sort my load order. Here is my current load order and my mods installed through OBMM (Better Cities, CM Partners and Realistic Leveling are not installed, all the unofficial patches are installed). I tried some things many times to solve this issue, to no avail. - Restarted Steam and my PC - Reinstalled Oblivion - Verified my game cache - Even cleaned the DLCs with TES4Edit Here is what I see in LOOT when the unofficial patches are installed and I think this is where the answer to my problem lies. I’m sure the red texts that say “C.Water”, “C.Climate” and “C.Light” are the cause of my problem but I don’t know what they mean… I don’t know what to do and I really want to start a new character with all these mods. If anyone knows about this and can give me some info about how to fix it or about what I am missing, I’d be grateful. I’m very eager to play! :laugh: