LummoxJR

2% of registered users is a much larger percentage of active users. Even if it were only 2%, when those 2% have highly detailed and specific criticisms, those criticisms should be taken seriously. Any feedback that's targeted and detailed, positive or negative, should be weighted hundreds of times above a simple "I like it" or "I hate it". I've had good things to say as well as bad, all specific, and I am not part of the "change it all back" chorus. Reverting the whole thing is not a tenable solution, but certain aspects of the new design aren't tenable either. A lot of the same issues are being repeated because management is either ignoring them or completely dropping the ball on communication. I have yet to see any response at all to the vertical space issue, which is actually like several dozen issues under one umbrella. (Individually most of those items are small, but in totality they severely undercut usability and presentation.) I have finally seen one response to the loss of per-game colors, but it wasn't a good one. We all know the staff is busy. We all know that any kind of change at all will spark negative reactions. I think most people are still understanding of that. It's just a lot harder to stay understanding when the communication is this bad and there's no apparent attempt to fix the most glaring problems, most of which were brought up during the beta. What was the point of the beta if feedback was going to be chucked directly into the bin and the identified problems rolled out as-is? I want to acknowledge that I have seen work done on some things that people were begging for, like changing back the quick search (I didn't have a strong opinion on the new one), and bringing back comment searching which is huge. But there's an awful lot that could be done to address other widely shared specific feedback, most of which is just a matter of tiny QoL tweaks. Some things are harder to change—e.g., people wanting to get rid of the big collections section, move it, or make it optional based on user prefs, all of which require thinking through. I think Nexus will find the user base a lot more patient if there's better communication.

Bug report: Filtering a list of mods by a date range is using UTC, not the user's time zone. I would naturally expect when filtering by date that the filter be based on midnight in my own time zone, not midnight UTC.

I've said this elsewhere but it's worth repeating. The wasted space, especially wasted vertical space, is the single worst aspect of the new design. My custom stylesheet with fixes is here, and it's a good guideline for how to fix space waste in a lot of places: https://github.com/LummoxJR/Nexusmods-style-fixes The worst offender by far is any list of mods, where the tiles have too much padding in just about every section, and too much of a gap in the grid. The description is limited to 4 lines, where 5 would be better and usually there's more than enough room to show 5 lines anyway. The bigger thumbnails, and being able to move filters to the side and hide them, are the only things I think improved over the old layout. On mod pages, the title font needs to go back to being condensed. It doesn't have to be Bebas Neue. I found Saira Condensed is a very good choice, but Cabin Condensed isn't bad either; Saira Condensed gives a slightly better use of space and avoids wrapping titles. The short description needs to be above the fold. On the main page for a game, the trending section is GIGANTIC. It needs to be shrunk down to size. Collections should be either made optional via a user config, or moved to a sidebar area. Most users will either not care about collections at all, or will only care at specific points in their modding journey (i.e. when picking out a collection to use). My stylesheet improves the trending area a little bit, but that could benefit from a full rethink. The collections area needs to be optional.

Nope, I don't mind at all. My changes are a basis for others to make their own. I put them up partially as a reference so the site's designers can fix the problems.

For the titles in a tile view, I don't think there's a way to make a single line readable while also keeping a decent amount of text on it. On a 1920x1080 display I get 6 columns with the filter section closed, and accounting for margins and padding it's 255px of width for the text. Compressing the text makes it very difficult to read the titles at a glance, and making the font smaller would have a similar problem.

The problem with restricting the mod titles within a grid tile to one line is that the majority of mods have longer titles than that, so a lot of information is lost. Ellipses aren't a good solution because some might have names like: Super Special Fighter Armor - SPID where the last part gets cut off. Unlike on a mod page, where I changed to a condensed font, I found a condensed font is all but unreadable at smaller sizes in the list view. Inter is a terrible choice for titles on mod pages, but for titles within the list view it's much better.

I saw no evidence of responsiveness to those expansive critiques at all. There was barely any acknowledgment. I had a long and very specific list of issues, not one of which has been addressed. Obviously I'm just one person with one opinion and don't expect my ideas to hold more weight than anyone else's, but many of them were widely shared. Changes that resulted: zero. And this goes for other users' suggestions as well, where I've seen no action whatsoever. The only things they've changed to my knowledge were bugs that were found. Good on them for fixing bugs, I guess, but why ask for feedback if they were gonna ignore literally all of it? However, to be entirely fair to Nexus, I am not against change. I also know that you can't please everyone, and it takes time to agree on and implement changes. It's just insulting that they've made absolutely none at all. That still needs to change. What's still broken? A quick list: Multiple users have spoken out about the quick search having usability problems that are a distinct downgrade from the old quick search. I haven't used it enough to really have trouble with it, but somebody needs to hear them out. Vertical space wasted to a ridiculous degree in almost every aspect of the new design, which is a very bad thing for PC users on widescreen monitors—i.e. 99% of all users on the Nexus. Many pages have changed so that information that was once above the fold is no longer so, and lists of mods can't even display 2 grid rows per screen. This shouldn't be treated as one list item, but like a dozen all under the same umbrella. I can't overstate how bad this is. The loss of per-game colors in favor of making everything orange is almost universally hated. Mod pages' title fonts are no longer compressed, which means many of them wrap to two lines. Inter is simply not an appropriate font for this purpose, and it looks like crap there. You can't restrict mod searches by date range anymore. This is a highly useful feature and some people use it a lot. I wasn't one of them, but there doesn't seem to be a reason to have gotten rid of it. This is functionality we need restored. Some of these changes I've been able to fix with my own personal stylesheet, but I can't alter functionality. I might be able to fix some more with a script for Tampermonkey if the backend functionality is still there.

The previous mod title font was Bebas Neue, a highly condensed all-caps font. The new title font is Inter, a relative of Helvetica or Arial that was already used for most other sans-serif fonts on the site. The only problem with Inter for this purpose is it's way too wide. It works everywhere else, but in titles it looks very wrong. My stylesheet uses Cabin Condensed, which still refreshes the look with something new, but because it's condensed it works much better in titles. My initial experiments used Saira Condensed, which also looks very nice; it's slightly more condensed and it has a very subtle sci-fi look that feels a little closer to the old Bebas Neue. My stylesheet imports Saira Condensed as well if you want to change the font family.

My stylesheet fixes the mod titles by switching from the Inter font (not suited to this purpose) to a condensed font. I chose Cabin Condensed, but in earlier tests I really liked Saira Condensed also so I put both of them as options in the stylesheet. I linked to that a few posts back.

If you mean my styles, I'm not sure why they would cause stuttering; all they're doing is altering the styles in the stylesheet and making relatively small changes, nothing that should conceivably cause churn. Whether it's my styles or the default, though, the fact that it doesn't happen for you in Edge (which is built on the same engine) or that it happens with extensions off suggests Chrome itself is having an issue, unrelated to anything about the styles.

Free style sheet for use with the Stylus extension, or whatever equivalent you have: https://github.com/LummoxJR/Nexusmods-style-fixes It covers mod pages and mod listings. I didn't explore much else with the beta so I'm sure I'll find other things to update when more of it rolls out.

Can we not have it look exactly like it did during the beta? I had to apply a special stylesheet to make up for its faults. As usual with all site rollouts (not just Nexus), I saw no evidence the company listened to a darn thing we said. Most of which boiled down to: STOP WASTING VERTICAL SPACE.

I didn't notice this earlier, but the Report Abuse and Share buttons on a mod page are terribly placed. They should be up toward the top, possibly in the header with the other buttons, not taking up space below the short description. Right now they're just sitting in the middle of the page, interrupting flow for no reason.

Oh. I hate that. They shouldn't do that.

On the classic site I was seeing blue buttons and blue breadcrumb links, which has a much more pleasing color. Having all of the buttons and breadcrumb links in a pale orange is a step back. What's weird is that the body class scheme-theme-DeepBlue is still in the HTML, but the colors for that aren't being loaded in beta.css like they were in the classic CSS file. I'd like to request those be brought back. The blue was so much nicer. Edit: Taking the theme color sections and putting them in my custom CSS override with !important brings back the deep blue, and it's so much nicer. The forced override to orange in the beta is unnecessary. Please get rid of that.

I can at least post my own CSS tweaks I've just worked up in a stylesheet. In making this stylesheet I noticed there's a real problem with the way CSS is being used. Those classes like pt-4, pb-6, etc. are basically little better than inline styles. Most of the elements on the page aren't given functional class names, but instead have classes that define styles on them. Styles like this are hard to maintain and hard to override for readability. The mod list page needs more functional classes like these: page-header page-header-nav page-header-game-title sort-options results-count content-block-notice mod-tile-image mod-tile-title mod-tile-author mod-tile-time mod-tile-desc mod-tile-stats Classes whose only purpose is to specify a specific amount of padding and such are fundamentally at odds with how CSS is supposed to be written. I know this kind of thing has infected a lot of sites, but I think we can do better here.

I just tested all of these (except for Open Sans Condensed). PT Sans Narrow and Saira Condensed are absolute winners at the current font size of 44px. Encode Sans Condensed would be fine at a smaller size, but it's naturally bigger than its peers for some reason. Out of all of the fonts I've looked at, Saira Condensed is my favorite. It's striking and still leaves room for longer mod titles.

Following up on my comment about the title font on the mod pages being terrible, I have some alternative suggestions from a quick browse of Google Fonts. All of them are condensed or have a bit taller aspect: Athiti: Highly readable sans-serif, with a little bit of personality. Antic: A humanist sans-serif that isn't quite as wide as Inter. Open Sans Condensed: (I'm not sure why it disappeared from Google Fonts, but it's free for commercial use.) This one has a slimmer profile that's more in line with what Bebas Neue brought to the table, without being all-caps. PT Sans Narrow: Condensed humanist font with a high midline. Not my favorite, but it is distinctive. Encode Sans Condensed: Another condensed humanist font with a high midline. It has a lot of similarities to PT Sans. Fira Sans Condensed: The midline on this one is more pleasing IMO, but it still has a nice tight presentation. Saira Condensed: This one has a slight sci-fi feel, but only slight. I think it maintains some of the visual interest that Bebas Neue had. Any one of these would be a better font for the titles on mod pages than Inter.

I came at the new design open-minded, and on the pages I use most—individual mod pages and the listing of recent mods—I don't think it's horrible. It needs tweaks. My post was extremely long because my biggest gripes are from the insanely bad use of vertical space on the mod list. I could fix almost all of these issues on my end with a custom style, provided the site doesn't change up CSS classes like Facebook and Discord love to do, but I think these are universal enough problems that they need to be taken seriously. I mean really, does the designer have their monitor turned in portrait mode? There's only so much vertical space. Use it wisely! If they fix the vertical space issues, and the appalling title font on the mod pages, I think this isn't bad. At least not on the pages I use.

First impressions (all on desktop, not mobile): On the individual mod page, things look pretty decent except for the title font, which is too wide and a bit ugly. The old font being slim had many advantages, including being able to show longer titles. Inter is too much like Helvetica/Arial in all the wrong ways. Switch to something slimmer. It doesn't have to be Bebas Neue like before (although that font was great), but it's just way too wide right now. Otherwise I don't really have any big problems with it. The page where I browse mods, however, is terrible. The experience is a massive downgrade. For reference, I view mods in the last-updated order by default. Here are the bad parts, the main theme of which is WASTED SCREEN REAL ESTATE, especially in the vertical dimension. The header at the top of the page is completely wasted space. It should be vertically slim, no more than 30px high. The new header is 124px including padding, which is way too much. Nobody needs this. The new listings for the mods are too big. I used to be able to see 2 rows of mods per scroll; now I can only see 1 1/2. This is unacceptable, and results mainly from the following: Vertical padding in the entire block below the mod image is excessive. It's 0.75rem on top and 1.25rem on the bottom, but it should be 0.5rem for both. Too much padding is below the author. 0.5rem should be reduced to 0.2. The individual sections for mod category, updated/uploaded, have more excessive padding. Again this should be dropped from 0.5rem to 0.2. The mod title is too large. 1.125rem is too big; 1rem is better. The line-height of the description at 1.5 is nice and readable, but wastes too much space; the standard 1.2 is inadequate. A compromise of 1.35 buys back some space. This also helps with the mod title when it wraps to more than one line. Despite all I've said above, a limit of 4 lines for description text is often inadequate; change the -webkit-line-clamp to 5 instead of 4. It does undo some of the vertical space saving, but it's important. Nuke the min-height on the mod listing. It's currently set to 28rem. Without it, a small amount of precious space is recovered. The very bottom line with the endorsements/downloads/size has a min-height of 2rem which is wasting more space. 1.35rem is much cleaner. There's too much spacing between grid rows. The column spacing is fine, but the excessive row gap wastes vertical space. 2.5rem is absolutely insane; drop it down to 1rem and no one's going to mind. (Enacting all of the above changes gets me nearly back to 2 rows per scroll. I can live with nearly.) Right below the top page header, there's a ridiculous amount of vertical padding on the filter column and the main results area. Reduce it from 1.5rem down to 0.5rem, which is all anyone needs. 1rem if you must. Below the sort options at the top, there's even more useless padding. "Some mods may be hidden based on your content blocking settings" appears below the result count and the sort options. This is wasting more space. Put it in between the result count and the sort options, where you have a ton of empty space. At the bottom, there's a gigantic margin below the grid, before the pagination section. 2.5rem is too much. However, I do kinda think 1rem is too little. 1.5rem seems just right. The last-updated time for each mod doesn't show a date; it shows "<time> ago". As nice as that is in some ways, it's useless if I'm trying to see all mods that updated since a specific day. The only way to tell is to mouse over it, which isn't great. I can live with this but I'd prefer some customization or something. So that's the bad. Let's go over the good: Despite the loss of more vertical space it entails, I do like the larger images. Despite my massive concerns about vertical space, I think you can get even better results by dropping the grid column gap from 2rem to 1.5rem, which only costs a couple of vertical pixels. The filters being on the side are really nice. It's intuitive. I like that hiding them presents even more mods per row. Bottom line: Treat vertical space like gold and expend it wisely. Right now it creates a severely downgraded experience.

I have three small mods under my belt now and I have an idea for an ambitious-for-me but still small mod: I want to integrate Immersive Interactions - Animated Actions with A Cat's Life in a way that causes NPCs to pet nearby cats as possible idles. After giving this a lot of thought and a few false starts, the best way I can think of to approach this is: Have a main start-on-game quest with an idle topic, no dialogue, that runs a script. The script should find a nearby cat and start a second quest that handles a scene. In the second quest, the petter and the cat begin a scene. The petter approaches the cat while the cat waits, the petter plays an idle (IdleSearchBody), an appropriate reaction happens from the cat, and the scene ends, ending the 2nd quest with it. This will involve working with scenes and packages for the first time, but I find what I'm really struggling with is the scripting portion here. How do I search for a cat (Actor with ACLCatRace) within a certain distance of the "speaker"? This appears to be very possible in packages, but it seems to me that I need this information to set the aliases for the scene quest. So I'm all turned around here and could use some advice from modders with a lot more experience. (I got this two-quest idea from the way Inn-Tegrated NPCs handels the book scene. There's a main idles topic in the main quest, and the book scene has its own separate quest. However, the book scene quest sets its aliases by simply choosing any "Find Matching Reference" in the loaded area. The greeter (first alias) only has conditions that they should have a certain voice type and not be disabled, and the responder has the same conditions with an additional check that they're not the greeter. So I don't know that this concept would work exactly as-is for my cat idea.