knightofyourlife

you need to learn to use Wrye bash, I needed to as well not so long ago, so I started a post on the forum a wile ago that helped us a lot. Below is the link. It is all quite easy, but It appears to be very hard at first, so just stick with it because wrye bash will remove most of the problems you do have and many you don't know you have yet. DO NOT add a reply to this post because it is old. http://www.thenexusf..._1#entry1937114 Hope this helps Knightofyourlife

Your bashed patch is in your oblivion file you need to take it from is file and drop it in your data file. Now I as we have needed to learn Wrye bash like any one else , but i never got the answers I needed so I started a post on the forum a wile ago that helped us a lot. Below is the link. do not ad a reply because it is an old post but I would read it. http://www.thenexusforums.com/index.php?/topic/220450-cobl-and-wrye-bash/page__p__1937114__fromsearch__1#entry1937114 Hope another 2 pennys worth helps Knightofyourlife

I Think Hichory has a point about Pathgrids and that got me thinking what could be the cause of that. If it is happening in more than one place may be it is a pathgrid issue but non localised EG the problem is an NPC scripting one. Looking at the mods you have I can see at least two global N.P.C mods Everlasting corpses and no respawn or essential NPC's. Is it possible that you to have an N.P.C scripting confliction. I have tryed a lot of mods and found many conflict with each other especially global N.P.C's mods I would sergest that you in tern switch them on and off with each other in different combernations to rule this out as a possibility. I do not know if hichory is right about your load order I just use the most up to date Boss list. but you do still have to change stuff if you are making your own mods because untill boss have a look at it, It is unlikly to ever be in the right place. but you had this problem before your own mod, so I think your right that it is not that. My gut feeling is that it may be many facters. If it is three or more mods adding to the same issue I have found that harder to track down. you have a lot of mods so you have a lot of sifting through. I wish you luck and I hope my 2 pennys worth is of some help. Knightofyourlife

I have had lots of small problems with oblivion, The same as every one else. Each time I have a problem I try and fix the issue my self. I would say 50% of the time I fix what is wrong with in an hour on my own with out loggin on to the net. If I don't, Then I come here and ask. some times just a quick chat leads me to the answer, (as in this case.) But most of the time I am given the right answer straight away or at the very least with in one day and the only person who has ever asked me for my load order/bashed patch data is you Hickory. So your statement that "it's hard for anybody to give you concrete advice" is inaccurate. Please change this to "it's hard for me to give you concrete advice", But thank you for any help you have tryed to give me, It is much appreciated. The Issue is now fixed %100 at a cost of a few ships, a few cranes and a bit of clutter. Unfortunately you gain a lot more esp's (I will think about merging them my self later.) The WaterfrontMarketV2 that I am using instead of the IC waterfront part of BC is not that far behind it, So all in all I am now Happy :) I hope this info helps you Nadimos, Just reinstall BC but pick the don't merge option in OMOD, and select all the esp's with the exception of the IC waterfront esp, and then use WaterfrontMarketV2 instead http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22834 Thankyou for your time Knightofyourlife

I still have this problem, but because all Door/teleports that go to the water front are unstable with BC switched on, may be I should try swithing just the waterfront part of better citys off,? I had better waterfront market before better citys and had to swich better water front market off because most of it is in better citys and it conflcts with BC. may be I could swich the waterfront part of better citys off and make up for its loss with better water front market. What do you lot think? Can I just remove the waterfront part off BC? Thankyou for your time Knightofyourlife

Darn it, I got all happy for a short time then the problem kreped back :(. I will try again may be I got the method slightly wrong

Thankyou both for your response. Thankyou Coma for your help, this seems to have fixed it I hope it will now stay fixed. Give this a go Nadimos because it seems to have fixed it. Thankyou for your time Knightofyourlife

Hi all, I have just started to use better city's. super mod. Runs smooth (very smooth) I only have one problem, when ever I try to enter the IC Waterfront via a door or other teleport method, Oblivion crashes. I have to walk to the waterfront. If I have been playing a wile the crashes seem to stop, well at least not happen as often. at least I think so because obviously I walk there most of the time. I can tell you what is not causing it just so not to waste any ones time, It is not a hardware problem, this is a new PC., It is not a bad install, Better Citys has one of the best self installs I have ever seen. I do not think it is a mod conflicion because I do not have any other mods in the waterfront apart from the goddess store. I do not think it is load order because I have the most up to date boss. Thankyoufor you time Knightofyourlife

Hi Quadratomic Thank you very much for any help Knightofyourlife

Hi Quadratomic Yes Miscellaneous is checked in.

Hi all I am trying to get a merchant to sell key's, But they just don't show up in there for sale list. Can any one tell me how I can get a merchant to sell key's Thankyou for your time Knightofyourlife

Good to hear that you got it fixed, Corupted files!! I'v had a few. One corruption was because I put 1000's of Items in one container. There may be a way for you to save your char. If you look through your saves you may find an ulternet vertion of that save, but I am not a boffin at this so do a search on the nexus about fixing corrupted saves because I know there is some thing that you may be able to do about it and there are some old furum posts about this and what you could do to try and save her/him/it/. Thank you for your time Knightofyourlife

Shadowfen Thankyou for your help. I have now Used TES4Edit and fixed this problem fine. You have saved me a Lot of time and pointed me to a tool that I expect will prove very usefull. Thank you for your time Knightofyourlife

TES4Edit is your friend! :) With it you can load in your mod, look at the entry that you made that was in error, and change the formid for the item in your mod from 00xxxxxx (overwritten Oblivion stuff) to 01xxxxxxx (new your mod stuff) thereby restoring your default static whatever. Thankyou Shadowfen Knightofyourlife

Hi Daveach Try uninstalling moonshadow elf mod, and reinstalling it. I have had a problem with this mod my self. It was not to the same dramatic level of mess thats happened to you. but the head was missing. I uninstalled the mod and then reinstalled it and that fixed it. I don't Know what the problem was though. Knightofyourlife